Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby DrJackRyan on Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:45 pm

Iowa would not be in North....still in Big 10 right?


innocentbystander wrote:Okay so Texas and Oklahoma are out, BYU, Central Florida, Houston, and Cincinnati are in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/09/03/big-12-conference-new-schools-join-byu-houston-ucf-cincinnati/5721822001/

All 4 will join, why wouldn't they? So I'm thinking the conference will not do something ACC retarded and split the conference in some bullshit way. They will split geographically:

  • North
  • Cincinnati
  • Kansas
  • West Virginia
  • Iowa
  • K-State
  • Iowa State
  • South
  • BYU
  • Houston
  • Central Florida
  • Baylor
  • Texas Tech
  • Oklahoma State

Have the conference championship in Arrowhead Stadium or maybe in St Louis. That would be reasonable. Its going to suck for Central Florida no matter which division they are placed. But Miami has been dealing with the same crap for decades.

I don't think they are going to want to wait until 2025 when Oklahoma and Texas are out. Why wait? Just expand to 14 if only temporarily. Texas no longer has any clout or say, they are leaving. Since BYU is independent they could probably join immediately. The others have to break their contracts with whatever shitball conference they are currently in.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:30 pm

Eaglekeeper wrote:Iowa is not in the Big 12.

I think expansion will keep the Big 12 as a P5 conference with an automatic playoff bid when the playoff expands to 12 teams. The PAC 12 might want to reconsider expansion. Adding TCU, Texas Tech, Ok St and Kansas St would be solid additions to the PAC 12. It gets them into Texas and the Kansas City market.

East division- Arizona, ASU, Texas Tech, TCU, Ok St, KSU, Colorado & Utah
West division- USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, OSU, Washington & WSU.

Go Eagles!


Ooops, +5. Iowa is B1G-T(14)N.

The Pac-12 is not going to expand. They could have had BYU 40 years ago. They are staying "fat" at 12. They didn't even really want Utah. They thought they were getting Texas and Colorado and the Longhorns bait-and-switched them.


DrJackRyan wrote:Iowa would not be in North....still in Big 10 right?


innocentbystander wrote:Okay so Texas and Oklahoma are out, BYU, Central Florida, Houston, and Cincinnati are in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/09/03/big-12-conference-new-schools-join-byu-houston-ucf-cincinnati/5721822001/

All 4 will join, why wouldn't they? So I'm thinking the conference will not do something ACC retarded and split the conference in some bullshit way. They will split geographically:

  • North
  • Cincinnati
  • Kansas
  • West Virginia
  • Iowa
  • K-State
  • Iowa State
  • South
  • BYU
  • Houston
  • Central Florida
  • Baylor
  • Texas Tech
  • Oklahoma State

Have the conference championship in Arrowhead Stadium or maybe in St Louis. That would be reasonable. Its going to suck for Central Florida no matter which division they are placed. But Miami has been dealing with the same crap for decades.

I don't think they are going to want to wait until 2025 when Oklahoma and Texas are out. Why wait? Just expand to 14 if only temporarily. Texas no longer has any clout or say, they are leaving. Since BYU is independent they could probably join immediately. The others have to break their contracts with whatever shitball conference they are currently in.



Ooops! Yes you are right. I forgot those horny frogs. +5 Dr Ryan. Lets try this again

  • North
  • Cincinnati
  • Kansas
  • West Virginia
  • BYU
  • K-State
  • Iowa State
  • South
  • TCU
  • Houston
  • Central Florida
  • Baylor
  • Texas Tech
  • Oklahoma State

That's better. With BYU, WVa and Cincinnati in the North, that is even more balanced for football. Anyway you slice it, its one hell of a basketball conference.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:41 pm

DrJackRyan wrote:Iowa would not be in North....still in Big 10 right?


innocentbystander wrote:Okay so Texas and Oklahoma are out, BYU, Central Florida, Houston, and Cincinnati are in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/09/03/big-12-conference-new-schools-join-byu-houston-ucf-cincinnati/5721822001/

All 4 will join, why wouldn't they? So I'm thinking the conference will not do something ACC retarded and split the conference in some bullshit way. They will split geographically:

  • North
  • Cincinnati
  • Kansas
  • West Virginia
  • Iowa
  • K-State
  • Iowa State
  • South
  • BYU
  • Houston
  • Central Florida
  • Baylor
  • Texas Tech
  • Oklahoma State

Have the conference championship in Arrowhead Stadium or maybe in St Louis. That would be reasonable. Its going to suck for Central Florida no matter which division they are placed. But Miami has been dealing with the same crap for decades.

I don't think they are going to want to wait until 2025 when Oklahoma and Texas are out. Why wait? Just expand to 14 if only temporarily. Texas no longer has any clout or say, they are leaving. Since BYU is independent they could probably join immediately. The others have to break their contracts with whatever shitball conference they are currently in.


Forget the Big !2, it's irrelevant. The SEC, Texas, Oklahoma and the south in general need to figure out their looming TV issues. Just looking at the ratings for this weekend as a microcosm for what they are facing. Clemson-Georgia, an epic showdown draws 7.8 million viewers at its peak on Saturday Night. Pretty good, except that Notre Dame-FSU on a Sunday Night dwarfed it with 8.8 million viewers at its peak. There was also much crowing about Clemson-Georgia possibly being the second highest Saturday kickoff primetime game in ABC's history, although it now looks like that will not be the case, finishing behind Ohio State-LSU and millions and millions of viewers behind Notre Dame-Texas. It gets worse for southern football when you look at the highest rated Saturday night games over the last 15 years (that's how far back the data goes that is findable). Despite having a bevy of primetime games with national title implications, the top primetime performers for ABC have been Notre Dame-Michigan, Notre Dame-USC, Ohio State-Penn State and its even worse with respect to the 3:30 national slot where there are five iterations of Ohio State-Michigan, a Michigan-Michigan State showdown, and two Penn State-Michigan games before you get to the top-rated SEC game on CBS. And before we start stating that it is easier to draw ratings on ABC than on CBS, it should be noted that the Notre Dame has had six games in the 3:30 time slot that outdrew the SEC's best on CBS. And just for shits and giggles, in comparing primetime games, Notre Dame-Clemson on NBC last year is the second highest primetime college football draw of the last 15 years, narrowly clipped by the aforementioned ND-Texas game. The highest rated college football game of all time continues to be the 1993 version of ND-FSU, which drew 23 million viewers for a Saturday afternoon game (in an admittedly different media environment).

The point of all of this is that mediocre northern/midwestern football crushes the absolute apex of what southern football brings to TV sets/laptops/smart phones. Rather than wasting their time getting into a regional arms race they can't win, the SEC should use the cyclical advantage it has now to figure out a way to draw the much larger northern audiences. We are headed to a 64 team league one way or the other, might as well do it now while the south has a lot of leverage. If things flip, as they seem to do every twenty years or so, and USC, Notre Dame, Michigan join Ohio State as posing a threat to SEC dominance, the Bamas, Auburns, and LSUs of the world are going to get a far less robust deal.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:44 pm

Dick Rosenthal wrote:
DrJackRyan wrote:Iowa would not be in North....still in Big 10 right?


innocentbystander wrote:Okay so Texas and Oklahoma are out, BYU, Central Florida, Houston, and Cincinnati are in.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/09/03/big-12-conference-new-schools-join-byu-houston-ucf-cincinnati/5721822001/

All 4 will join, why wouldn't they? So I'm thinking the conference will not do something ACC retarded and split the conference in some bullshit way. They will split geographically:

  • North
  • Cincinnati
  • Kansas
  • West Virginia
  • Iowa
  • K-State
  • Iowa State
  • South
  • BYU
  • Houston
  • Central Florida
  • Baylor
  • Texas Tech
  • Oklahoma State

Have the conference championship in Arrowhead Stadium or maybe in St Louis. That would be reasonable. Its going to suck for Central Florida no matter which division they are placed. But Miami has been dealing with the same crap for decades.

I don't think they are going to want to wait until 2025 when Oklahoma and Texas are out. Why wait? Just expand to 14 if only temporarily. Texas no longer has any clout or say, they are leaving. Since BYU is independent they could probably join immediately. The others have to break their contracts with whatever shitball conference they are currently in.


Forget the Big !2, it's irrelevant. The SEC, Texas, Oklahoma and the south in general need to figure out their looming TV issues. Just looking at the ratings for this weekend as a microcosm for what they are facing. Clemson-Georgia, an epic showdown draws 7.8 million viewers at its peak on Saturday Night. Pretty good, except that Notre Dame-FSU on a Sunday Night dwarfed it with 8.8 million viewers at its peak. There was also much crowing about Clemson-Georgia possibly being the second highest Saturday kickoff primetime game in ABC's history, although it now looks like that will not be the case, finishing behind Ohio State-LSU and millions and millions of viewers behind Notre Dame-Texas. It gets worse for southern football when you look at the highest rated Saturday night games over the last 15 years (that's how far back the data goes that is findable). Despite having a bevy of primetime games with national title implications, the top primetime performers for ABC have been Notre Dame-Michigan, Notre Dame-USC, Ohio State-Penn State and its even worse with respect to the 3:30 national slot where there are five iterations of Ohio State-Michigan, a Michigan-Michigan State showdown, and two Penn State-Michigan games before you get to the top-rated SEC game on CBS. And before we start stating that it is easier to draw ratings on ABC than on CBS, it should be noted that the Notre Dame has had six games in the 3:30 time slot that outdrew the SEC's best on CBS. And just for shits and giggles, in comparing primetime games, Notre Dame-Clemson on NBC last year is the second highest primetime college football draw of the last 15 years, narrowly clipped by the aforementioned ND-Texas game. The highest rated college football game of all time continues to be the 1993 version of ND-FSU, which drew 23 million viewers for a Saturday afternoon game (in an admittedly different media environment).

The point of all of this is that mediocre northern/midwestern football crushes the absolute apex of what southern football brings to TV sets/laptops/smart phones. Rather than wasting their time getting into a regional arms race they can't win, the SEC should use the cyclical advantage it has now to figure out a way to draw the much larger northern audiences. We are headed to a 64 team league one way or the other, might as well do it now while the south has a lot of leverage. If things flip, as they seem to do every twenty years or so, and USC, Notre Dame, Michigan join Ohio State as posing a threat to SEC dominance, the Bamas, Auburns, and LSUs of the world are going to get a far less robust deal.


Then the ACC needs to tell Notre Dame to shit or get off the pot to get to 16. This "just-the-tip" bullshit with the Irish is bullshit.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:33 pm

the acc needs to stop getting their bare asses spanked on national television before they can dictate anything to anyone
now in the street there is violence
and, and a lots of work to be done
no place to hang out our washing
and, and i can't blame all on the sun
good god we gonna rock down to electric avenue
and then we'll take it higher
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby Eaglekeeper on Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:49 pm

Now is a prime opportunity for BC to establish itself as a real power in football. Most importantly, they actually have the right guy leading the program. Hafley is doing all the right things especially in terms of national recruiting. I think BC has a cachet as a National catholic university to truly be able to recruit players from catholic high schools in Cali, Texas and Florida. Most of our competitors in the ACC are just another state university, nothing special.

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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby HJS on Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:40 am

https://www.yahoo.com/news/changing-col ... 00566.html
The freak out involved with TX and Okla going to the SEC has introduced a lot of stupid into an already idiotically run industry. Nonetheless, the DFW article takes an interesting BC-related angle. I’d note that Big vs Big is only a major event when not everyone is Big. The major buzzword DIVERSITY applies equally to sports. If you have a conference of Bama, Florida, TX, ND, Okla, Clemson, Georgia, TAMU, LSU, Ohio State and Michigan… half would suck and finish with a losing record.
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Re: Maryland may actually be leaving the ACC

Postby innocentbystander on Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:55 pm

HJS wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/changing-college-football-landscape-tcu-100000566.html
The freak out involved with TX and Okla going to the SEC has introduced a lot of stupid into an already idiotically run industry. Nonetheless, the DFW article takes an interesting BC-related angle. I’d note that Big vs Big is only a major event when not everyone is Big. The major buzzword DIVERSITY applies equally to sports. If you have a conference of Bama, Florida, TX, ND, Okla, Clemson, Georgia, TAMU, LSU, Ohio State and Michigan… half would suck and finish with a losing record.


Mike Gundy on Big-XII expansion and Nebraska



Mike Gundy wrote:I thought when Nebraska went North they lost recruiting down here. I thought it hurt them. Its just my opinion.


His comments on BYU, Cincinnati, and Central Florida, were very intelligent, very mathematical. 71,000 students at Central Florida? Wow.
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