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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:22 pm

If he can pass block for more than 1.2 seconds and not be a matador in the run game, he can start at any position.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:10 pm

Saunders is going to Loserville. The key on Patcham is his health. When healthy, he was good enough to start for Florida. That means, that he would certainly be one of our top five OLinemen next year... if healthy.

It should be noted that I am not as down on the OLine as some. I think we have some talent there. I think the number one issue there has been coaches not developing these kids (all OLinemen come in needing significant work). The second major issues along the OLine is the coaches not fucking knowing who to start. The ridiculousness at center... Harris Williams... Seth Betancourt... it goes on and on.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:38 pm

Agree that there's talent on the OL. It's actually one of 2-3 positions (along with QB and arguably WR) that the Spaz regime did a pretty decent job of recruiting....they just couldn't develop the talent for shit, as you said.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:46 pm

HJS wrote:Saunders is going to Loserville. The key on Patcham is his health. When healthy, he was good enough to start for Florida. That means, that he would certainly be one of our top five OLinemen next year... if healthy.

It should be noted that I am not as down on the OLine as some. I think we have some talent there. I think the number one issue there has been coaches not developing these kids (all OLinemen come in needing significant work). The second major issues along the OLine is the coaches not fucking knowing who to start. The ridiculousness at center... Harris Williams... Seth Betancourt... it goes on and on.



Did Patcham start on the OLine? What position?

I am not as negative about our prospects at OLine either. Between White, Vardaro, Betancourt & Williams we are solid at OG. OT is a big question mark. The competition will be between Kramer, Bowen and Lembke. OC is the real problem as Gallik is just not good, but who else on the roster can play OC? White has proven that he cannot.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:51 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
HJS wrote:Saunders is going to Loserville. The key on Patcham is his health. When healthy, he was good enough to start for Florida. That means, that he would certainly be one of our top five OLinemen next year... if healthy.

It should be noted that I am not as down on the OLine as some. I think we have some talent there. I think the number one issue there has been coaches not developing these kids (all OLinemen come in needing significant work). The second major issues along the OLine is the coaches not fucking knowing who to start. The ridiculousness at center... Harris Williams... Seth Betancourt... it goes on and on.



Did Patcham start on the OLine? What position?

I am not as negative about our prospects at OLine either. Between White, Vardaro, Betancourt & Williams we are solid at OG. OT is a big question mark. The competition will be between Kramer, Bowen and Lembke. OC is the real problem as Gallik is just not good, but who else on the roster can play OC? White has proven that he cannot.


Patchan started 7 games at rt in 2011. I think he was injured after the last game he started as opposed to losing his job based on poor play.

Edit: he started 2 games at lt then 5 at rt in 2011. Then he got hurt again.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby 31southst on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:08 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
HJS wrote:Saunders is going to Loserville. The key on Patcham is his health. When healthy, he was good enough to start for Florida. That means, that he would certainly be one of our top five OLinemen next year... if healthy.

It should be noted that I am not as down on the OLine as some. I think we have some talent there. I think the number one issue there has been coaches not developing these kids (all OLinemen come in needing significant work). The second major issues along the OLine is the coaches not fucking knowing who to start. The ridiculousness at center... Harris Williams... Seth Betancourt... it goes on and on.



Did Patcham start on the OLine? What position?

I am not as negative about our prospects at OLine either. Between White, Vardaro, Betancourt & Williams we are solid at OG. OT is a big question mark. The competition will be between Kramer, Bowen and Lembke. OC is the real problem as Gallik is just not good, but who else on the roster can play OC? White has proven that he cannot.


I would hope either White or Williams can play C. Also, Gaughan was listed as a C as well and he was well-regarded when he came in, so he might be an option too. I am curious if there will be a big shuffle under the new staff, like Tennant going from backup TE to starting C under Jags. Also, as much as Florida people hated Daz as OC, I think the consensus is that he was a good line coach, so that will hopefully prove true.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby joeyfenn on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:19 pm

How many years of eligibility does Patcham have left?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:23 pm

joeyfenn wrote:How many years of eligibility does Patcham have left?


1, and he can transfer and immediately play next season
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:37 pm

31southst wrote:
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
HJS wrote:Saunders is going to Loserville. The key on Patcham is his health. When healthy, he was good enough to start for Florida. That means, that he would certainly be one of our top five OLinemen next year... if healthy.

It should be noted that I am not as down on the OLine as some. I think we have some talent there. I think the number one issue there has been coaches not developing these kids (all OLinemen come in needing significant work). The second major issues along the OLine is the coaches not fucking knowing who to start. The ridiculousness at center... Harris Williams... Seth Betancourt... it goes on and on.



Did Patcham start on the OLine? What position?

I am not as negative about our prospects at OLine either. Between White, Vardaro, Betancourt & Williams we are solid at OG. OT is a big question mark. The competition will be between Kramer, Bowen and Lembke. OC is the real problem as Gallik is just not good, but who else on the roster can play OC? White has proven that he cannot.


I am curious if there will be a big shuffle under the new staff, like Tennant going from backup TE to starting C under Jags.


This one gets repeated far too often. Tennant was switched from a backup OG to a backup TE during 2006 season because of injuries to the position. It was never meant to be a permanent move.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby NJM89 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:57 pm

Whats up with Ralph Webb RB from Florida? Tape looks pretty good. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/909788/highlights/34382394
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby 31southst on Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:07 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
31southst wrote: I am curious if there will be a big shuffle under the new staff, like Tennant going from backup TE to starting C under Jags.


This one gets repeated far too often. Tennant was switched from a backup OG to a backup TE during 2006 season because of injuries to the position. It was never meant to be a permanent move.


Was that why? I thought TOB had determined Tennant couldn't carry enough weight for his power style of OL and the switch would have been permanent if TOB stayed. However, Jags zone blocking relied on athleticism and made Tennant all of a sudden perfect of the system. Probably not the best example here either as it doesn't sound like Daz will overhaul the OL system, but it does illustrate that the old depth chart doesn't necessarily mean a ton.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby joeyfenn on Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:29 pm

RB Jamauri Bogan from NJ will attend BC's junior day in January.

Offers from GT, UMass, Temple, Toledo, Old Dominion

Rutgers and obviously BC have shown interest
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:48 pm

NJM89 wrote:Whats up with Ralph Webb RB from Florida? Tape looks pretty good. http://www.hudl.com/athlete/909788/highlights/34382394


CNee247: Gainesville (Fla.) RB Rapheal Webb has scheduled officials to #FAU (1/11) and #BC (1/18) http://t.co/l4I3VR8O via @247Sports
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby SeaCaptim on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:28 pm

Frank Taylor, the redshirt freshman to be, was being groomed to play center at BC. Bowen, is a very promising kid, who played in the PA Big 33 all star game at tackle. He may need some time to develop, since the former coaching staff had him playing tight end. Forget about Ian White at Center, as he is slower than molasses. He will get beat by any athletic defensive lineman. Betancourt was good at RG when he stepped in for White. BC might need Harris Williams to step out to play tackle. Vardaro slumped a bit with the crappy team performances, but he is a good player. I would take a wild guess and project these 5 to start next season:

LT Lembke
LG Vardaro
C Frank Taylor
RG Betancourt
RT Matt Pachan (transfer)
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:34 pm

SeaCaptim wrote:Frank Taylor, the redshirt freshman to be, was being groomed to play center at BC. Bowen, is a very promising kid, who played in the PA Big 33 all star game at tackle. He made need some time to develop, since the former coaching staff had him playing tight end. Forget about Ian White at Center, as he is slower than molasses. He will get beat by any athletic defensive lineman. Betancourt was good at RG when he stepped in for White. BC might need Harris Williams to step out to play tackle. Vardaro slumped a bit with the crappy team performances, but he is a good player. I would take a wild guess and project these 5 to start next season:

LT Lembke
LG Vardaro
C Frank Taylor
RG Betancourt
RT Matt Pachan (transfer)



Thanks. Too soon for a 2013 OLine thread?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:04 am

White will start... maybe not at center but I thought he was our best OL the last 2 years (tallest midget, but we'll still have mostly the same midgets). Also I'd be interested to see what Gallik can do with some actual coaching, he was well regarded coming out of HS.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:58 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
Thanks. Too soon for a 2013 OLine thread?


Maybe wait till Spring Ball? Any idea on when that starts, will be nice to not have the schedule based around the Hingham LL schedule.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:26 pm

SeaCaptim wrote:Frank Taylor, the redshirt freshman to be, was being groomed to play center at BC. Bowen, is a very promising kid, who played in the PA Big 33 all star game at tackle. He may need some time to develop, since the former coaching staff had him playing tight end. Forget about Ian White at Center, as he is slower than molasses. He will get beat by any athletic defensive lineman. Betancourt was good at RG when he stepped in for White. BC might need Harris Williams to step out to play tackle. Vardaro slumped a bit with the crappy team performances, but he is a good player. I would take a wild guess and project these 5 to start next season:

LT Lembke
LG Vardaro
C Frank Taylor
RG Betancourt
RT Matt Pachan (transfer)


I thought Gaughan was the one from last years class that was projected at center
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby SeaCaptim on Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:54 pm

Gaughan is not from last year's class. He will be a redshirt soph next season. He was listed on the depth chart, but Taylor was being redshirted.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:17 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:
SeaCaptim wrote:Frank Taylor, the redshirt freshman to be, was being groomed to play center at BC. Bowen, is a very promising kid, who played in the PA Big 33 all star game at tackle. He may need some time to develop, since the former coaching staff had him playing tight end. Forget about Ian White at Center, as he is slower than molasses. He will get beat by any athletic defensive lineman. Betancourt was good at RG when he stepped in for White. BC might need Harris Williams to step out to play tackle. Vardaro slumped a bit with the crappy team performances, but he is a good player. I would take a wild guess and project these 5 to start next season:

LT Lembke
LG Vardaro
C Frank Taylor
RG Betancourt
RT Matt Pachan (transfer)


I thought Gaughan was the one from last years class that was projected at center



There is a reason you don't see many centers over 6'4".
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:31 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:
SeaCaptim wrote:Frank Taylor, the redshirt freshman to be, was being groomed to play center at BC. Bowen, is a very promising kid, who played in the PA Big 33 all star game at tackle. He may need some time to develop, since the former coaching staff had him playing tight end. Forget about Ian White at Center, as he is slower than molasses. He will get beat by any athletic defensive lineman. Betancourt was good at RG when he stepped in for White. BC might need Harris Williams to step out to play tackle. Vardaro slumped a bit with the crappy team performances, but he is a good player. I would take a wild guess and project these 5 to start next season:

LT Lembke
LG Vardaro
C Frank Taylor
RG Betancourt
RT Matt Pachan (transfer)


I thought Gaughan was the one from last years class that was projected at center



There is a reason you don't see many centers over 6'4".


What's the reason?
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby SeaCaptim on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:46 pm

[quote]White will start... maybe not at center but I thought he was our best OL the last 2 years (tallest midget, but we'll still have mostly the same midgets). Also I'd be interested to see what Gallik can do with some actual coaching, he was well regarded coming out of HS.[/quote

If White starts, BC will suck again next season. He is too slow for Div. 1 football. He is tough but slow footed. BC OL is not small as they all went 6-5 to 6-7 except Gallik. Gallik had some good offers, but had to learn to play center, which is a tough position at D1.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby vegasEagle on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:53 pm

thought this was the recruiting thread.

just sayin.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle9903 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:57 pm

SeaCaptim wrote:
White will start... maybe not at center but I thought he was our best OL the last 2 years (tallest midget, but we'll still have mostly the same midgets). Also I'd be interested to see what Gallik can do with some actual coaching, he was well regarded coming out of HS.[/quote

If White starts, BC will suck again next season. He is too slow for Div. 1 football. He is tough but slow footed. BC OL is not small as they all went 6-5 to 6-7 except Gallik. Gallik had some good offers, but had to learn to play center, which is a tough position at D1.


This is not an assessment I agree with at all.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Oliver Closeoff on Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:42 pm

Jan 18th is shaping up to be the final recruiting push for BC. Several players are taking OVs.

QB Julian
RB Webb
DT Maurice?
WR Lemelle?

It will be interesting to see if BC would take both Webb and Coppett, not sure there is room for both.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCEagles25 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:55 am

I imagine there'd be plenty of room. We only had 17 in the class and that was before the de-commits. You take Coppet and Webb, because there's plenty of room and they're talented. Talent is good. We need talent.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby EagleNYC on Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:54 pm

To continue the hijack of this thread, the real talent on the OL (if you go by stars and offers) is in last year's recruiting class of Homer, Cashman and Taylor.
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby Shaddix on Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:00 pm

Oliver Closeoff wrote:Jan 18th is shaping up to be the final recruiting push for BC. Several players are taking OVs.

QB Julian
RB Webb
DT Maurice?
WR Lemelle?

It will be interesting to see if BC would take both Webb and Coppett, not sure there is room for both.


Robert Davis is coming on the 25th
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Re: 2013 Recruiting Thread

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:33 pm

We were also still recruiting Coppett and others before Daniels decommitted, so I don't see why we wouldn't take two more now.
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