Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
CowboyEagle22 {l Wrote}:Whether or not you think these programs are a good idea, the practice of the NFL flies in the face of their stated goal. Decorating the interviewing process with black guys who will never be hired is worse than having a no black guy policy. If the NFL simply said they don't hire black guys, then at least it is honest. The current policy is a lie and worse yet, it requires the black guys to participate in the lie.
It is a shame that it has come to this, but I respect the hell out of Flores for taking a stand. His career is ruined in the NFL, but maybe it do some good.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
Why? He's a really good coach. Having second thoughts about hiring him is proving his point.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
Why? He's a really good coach. Having second thoughts about hiring him is proving his point.
Why is that proving his point? I would have hired him in a second before he filed the lawsuit and showed himself to be an untrustworthy sneak. The second thoughts are about him being litigious and unable to keep a confidence. I do all the hiring here, if I look someone up and see that they are litigious, I throw the resume out, I dont care how good he/she is. I dont need trouble or people having to look over their shoulders. I also dont want someone who I need to walk on eggshells with and can be frank with. He did this all to himself.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
Why? He's a really good coach. Having second thoughts about hiring him is proving his point.
Why is that proving his point? I would have hired him in a second before he filed the lawsuit and showed himself to be an untrustworthy sneak. The second thoughts are about him being litigious and unable to keep a confidence. I do all the hiring here, if I look someone up and see that they are litigious, I throw the resume out, I dont care how good he/she is. I dont need trouble or people having to look over their shoulders. I also dont want someone who I need to walk on eggshells with and can be frank with. He did this all to himself.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
Why? He's a really good coach. Having second thoughts about hiring him is proving his point.
Why is that proving his point? I would have hired him in a second before he filed the lawsuit and showed himself to be an untrustworthy sneak. The second thoughts are about him being litigious and unable to keep a confidence. I do all the hiring here, if I look someone up and see that they are litigious, I throw the resume out, I dont care how good he/she is. I dont need trouble or people having to look over their shoulders. I also dont want someone who I need to walk on eggshells with and can be frank with. He did this all to himself.
Stop. Excuses are like assholes.
HJS {l Wrote}:I think Flores would be a head coach today but-for the lawsuit. But, it would be in that most awful of awful teams in Houston. So, in some ways, he is better off just cashing checks from the Dolphins while making bank as the next Kapernick.
How this ends is in settlement when Wignor (the other attorney is in over his head) starts asking for discovery. After the Redskins disaster, the NFL will be happy to come to settlement and put it behind them. Kap was a washed up QB no one wanted and they paid him more than he'd ever make continuing to hold a clipboard (not to mention the endorsements and speaking engagements). I feel (especially with Goodell's recent comments) the NFL won't want to make Flores another martyr and will talk him up, thank him for bringing it to their attention and then hand over a check. Flores' problem going forward will be getting anyone to trust him... from owner to GM to head coaches to assistants. I don't think filing suit is what hurts him as much as throwing Belichick under the bus.
HJS {l Wrote}:I think Flores would be a head coach today but-for the lawsuit. But, it would be in that most awful of awful teams in Houston. So, in some ways, he is better off just cashing checks from the Dolphins while making bank as the next Kapernick.
How this ends is in settlement when Wignor (the other attorney is in over his head) starts asking for discovery. After the Redskins disaster, the NFL will be happy to come to settlement and put it behind them. Kap was a washed up QB no one wanted and they paid him more than he'd ever make continuing to hold a clipboard (not to mention the endorsements and speaking engagements). I feel (especially with Goodell's recent comments) the NFL won't want to make Flores another martyr and will talk him up, thank him for bringing it to their attention and then hand over a check. Flores' problem going forward will be getting anyone to trust him... from owner to GM to head coaches to assistants. I don't think filing suit is what hurts him as much as throwing Belichick under the bus.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:As for Flores, he is never getting an NFL job or a significant college job again. You can't stab people in the back like he did to Bellichick and have anyone in authority want to let you into the tent. All fine if he wangles a Kap-like money for nothing deal, but if not, the only place you'll be seeing him coaching is in the MEAC or the like.
HJS {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:As for Flores, he is never getting an NFL job or a significant college job again. You can't stab people in the back like he did to Bellichick and have anyone in authority want to let you into the tent. All fine if he wangles a Kap-like money for nothing deal, but if not, the only place you'll be seeing him coaching is in the MEAC or the like.
In this woke world (especially the ridiculous state of college campuses), Flores would be a hero. And, there will be plenty of kids who will view him as a folk hero and want to play for him. So, I'm saying he'll get a shot at Power 5 if he wants it.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:As for Flores, he is never getting an NFL job or a significant college job again. You can't stab people in the back like he did to Bellichick and have anyone in authority want to let you into the tent. All fine if he wangles a Kap-like money for nothing deal, but if not, the only place you'll be seeing him coaching is in the MEAC or the like.
In this woke world (especially the ridiculous state of college campuses), Flores would be a hero. And, there will be plenty of kids who will view him as a folk hero and want to play for him. So, I'm saying he'll get a shot at Power 5 if he wants it.
Was going to same the same. You can't see a place like Cal hiring him?
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:BC Guy vs BC Guys.
I am surprised this has not been brought up before on this board.
If the Giants already complied with the Rooney rule why did they bother bringing Flores for an in-person?
Flores going scorched earth probably cost him a job offer. In my opinion. Did he get bad advice?
I generally believe Flores was given bad legal advice however the Maras are getting an awful lot of benefit of the doubt for having been among the most incompetent NFL owners for the last decade
Agree, some greedy scumbag lawyer thought the current political cycle would help a millionaire win a shitty case vs a billionaire. Bad move. He had a bright future ahead of him. I would have 2nd thoughts about hiring him as even a D-line coach.
Why? He's a really good coach. Having second thoughts about hiring him is proving his point.
Why is that proving his point? I would have hired him in a second before he filed the lawsuit and showed himself to be an untrustworthy sneak. The second thoughts are about him being litigious and unable to keep a confidence. I do all the hiring here, if I look someone up and see that they are litigious, I throw the resume out, I dont care how good he/she is. I dont need trouble or people having to look over their shoulders. I also dont want someone who I need to walk on eggshells with and can be frank with. He did this all to himself.
Stop. Excuses are like assholes.
So you cant say why it is proving his point. Gotcha. I thought everyone here was a lawyer.
There is only one excuse needed not to hire him...he is an asshole.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If the NFL is about winning, Brian Flores is one of 32 head coaches, period. Any excuse not to hire him proves his point. Yet Lovie Smith has a job.
Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If the NFL is about winning, Brian Flores is one of 32 head coaches, period. Any excuse not to hire him proves his point. Yet Lovie Smith has a job.
NFC champion head coach Lovie Smith? That Lovie Smith?
HJS {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If the NFL is about winning, Brian Flores is one of 32 head coaches, period. Any excuse not to hire him proves his point. Yet Lovie Smith has a job.
NFC champion head coach Lovie Smith? That Lovie Smith?
He’s talking about the Lovie Smith who was recently a joke for the Illini. That Lovie Smith.
Logitano {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If the NFL is about winning, Brian Flores is one of 32 head coaches, period. Any excuse not to hire him proves his point. Yet Lovie Smith has a job.
NFC champion head coach Lovie Smith? That Lovie Smith?
He’s talking about the Lovie Smith who was recently a joke for the Illini. That Lovie Smith.
Mike Lupica, "People act as if Lovie Smith was some kind of tomato-can choice by the Texans. But guess what? If you can coach the Bears to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman as your quarterback you can coach, period."
HJS {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:If the NFL is about winning, Brian Flores is one of 32 head coaches, period. Any excuse not to hire him proves his point. Yet Lovie Smith has a job.
NFC champion head coach Lovie Smith? That Lovie Smith?
He’s talking about the Lovie Smith who was recently a joke for the Illini. That Lovie Smith.
Mike Lupica, "People act as if Lovie Smith was some kind of tomato-can choice by the Texans. But guess what? If you can coach the Bears to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman as your quarterback you can coach, period."
So... I take it John Fox and Ken Whisenhunt were also in the running.
HJS {l Wrote}:Brian Flores hired by the Steelers.
Rooneys save the Maras yet again.
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