TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:hopefully we can get to 6-6 and qualify for a bowl (hip-hip-HOORAY, hip-hip-HOORAY, hip-hip-HOORAY)
first year we win 8 games since 2009. MARK IT DOWN IN PEN
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:hopefully we can get to 6-6 and qualify for a bowl (hip-hip-HOORAY, hip-hip-HOORAY, hip-hip-HOORAY)
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:They'll be fine against Temple with Grosel back there, but the rest of the games (even Cuse/GT/FSU) will be tough. Not going to beat even average teams with his Ryan Fitzpatrick impressions.
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:They'll be fine against Temple with Grosel back there, but the rest of the games (even Cuse/GT/FSU) will be tough. Not going to beat even average teams with his Ryan Fitzpatrick impressions.
Yes, it was awful when the one time he got a chance to start he delivered the most prolific QB performance in almost 40 years.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Jurk had surgery on his right hand/wrist today.
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Yes, but to paraphrase an asshole, “we still lost, didn’t we?” For all of the yards he put up there were also three picks. I wish him the best and hope he surprises everyone who I don’t have blocked. I just don’t think it’s very likely we’ll win more than 6 games now.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Yes, but to paraphrase an asshole, “we still lost, didn’t we?” For all of the yards he put up there were also three picks. I wish him the best and hope he surprises everyone who I don’t have blocked. I just don’t think it’s very likely we’ll win more than 6 games now.
I think it’s funny people romanticize that UVA game. BC lost and Grosel committed a bunch of crippling TOs.
Grosel is a good backup QB, but like any football team when your backup needs to start 80% of the season it won’t go well.
The defense is also really young and right now just flat out stinks. It’ll improve as the year goes on but UMass just dropped 28 on them.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Yes, but to paraphrase an asshole, “we still lost, didn’t we?” For all of the yards he put up there were also three picks. I wish him the best and hope he surprises everyone who I don’t have blocked. I just don’t think it’s very likely we’ll win more than 6 games now.
I think it’s funny people romanticize that UVA game. BC lost and Grosel committed a bunch of crippling TOs.
Grosel is a good backup QB, but like any football team when your backup needs to start 80% of the season it won’t go well.
The defense is also really young and right now just flat out stinks. It’ll improve as the year goes on but UMass just dropped 28 on them.
okay so another season, 6-6.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Yes, but to paraphrase an asshole, “we still lost, didn’t we?” For all of the yards he put up there were also three picks. I wish him the best and hope he surprises everyone who I don’t have blocked. I just don’t think it’s very likely we’ll win more than 6 games now.
I think it’s funny people romanticize that UVA game. BC lost and Grosel committed a bunch of crippling TOs.
Grosel is a good backup QB, but like any football team when your backup needs to start 80% of the season it won’t go well.
The defense is also really young and right now just flat out stinks. It’ll improve as the year goes on but UMass just dropped 28 on them.
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:Yes, but to paraphrase an asshole, “we still lost, didn’t we?” For all of the yards he put up there were also three picks. I wish him the best and hope he surprises everyone who I don’t have blocked. I just don’t think it’s very likely we’ll win more than 6 games now.
I think it’s funny people romanticize that UVA game. BC lost and Grosel committed a bunch of crippling TOs.
Grosel is a good backup QB, but like any football team when your backup needs to start 80% of the season it won’t go well.
The defense is also really young and right now just flat out stinks. It’ll improve as the year goes on but UMass just dropped 28 on them.
I can’t defend their second half performance, but the D really gave up 21. A one yard TD drive isn’t exactly their fault
EagleNYC {l Wrote}:This is a hell of an odd year streak with our starting QB suffering a season-ending injury.
2015 - Darius Wade, broken ankle, September
2017 - Anthony Brown, knee, November
2019 - Anthony Brown, knee, October
2021 - Jurk, hand, September
MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:EagleNYC {l Wrote}:This is a hell of an odd year streak with our starting QB suffering a season-ending injury.
2015 - Darius Wade, broken ankle, September
2017 - Anthony Brown, knee, November
2019 - Anthony Brown, knee, October
2021 - Jurk, hand, September
Jesus. We cannot catch a break.
hansen {l Wrote}:Hafley confirms Phil had a fracture in his hand
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:Hafley confirms Phil had a fracture in his hand
1. That is better than a wrist injury, I think
B. Did he say when or how it happened?
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:Hansen and I might have rose-colored glasses, but I'm closer to his perspective on things. Please forgive the long set of thoughts--ignore/block if you prefer. Your choice.
Losing Jurkovec greatly reduces BC's margin of error, but doesn't eliminate it. Jurkovec's ability to make every throw, his increased understanding of when and where to throw, and us now having receivers who can actually get to those desired spots, winds up stretching the field. We can hit the defense anywhere, at any depth. That puts much more pressure on them than is usually the case with a college offense.
Like most college quarterbacks, Grosel just can't make the range of throws, at the right time, that Jurkovec can. Without Jurkovec the defense can load the box and crowd defenders from short to intermediate middle.They can bet Grosel won't complete a deep sideline out nor a long pass without the receiver being much, much more open than Jurkovec needs. It will be much tougher to open holes for the backs, and they'll face more consistent pressure on the QB. Our rate and efficiency in scoring will drop just as we end up putting more of the load on our own weaker defense.
With Jurkovec BC could play for shootouts. They could score so much and so quickly, they could force the opponent to abandon the run to keep up. Yes, BC was burned in the UMass game as they played vanilla on defense (to avoid putting complex schemes on film). Going forward without Jurkovec, they'll never get THAT far ahead such that the opponent will be forced to abandon the run. Opponents' offenses will thus be even tougher to defend, as they can exploit weaknesses in the front 6/7 again and again.
We'll keep winning if our offense is really efficient in the red zone, if the offense can consistently slog out drive after drive to score or give the opponent bad field position, and if the coaches can scheme around the defense's flaws. That will get increasingly more difficult as the coaches pull out their more complex wrinkles, and future opponents see those on film.
Under Grosel, we'll now see much more of an effort to burn clock than would have been the case with Jurkovec. We want the defense on the field as little as possible not just to keep them fresh, but to reduce the number of tricks we have to show each week to get a stop.
They should still beat Temple, hopefully without showing too much. I think they'll beat Missouri, who has its own issues defensively, so long as they take care of the ball. But the coaches will have to start digging into the bag of tricks sooner. I think the big decision point will be the Clemson game if they go into it 4-0. Do they pull out the stops to beat Clemson, which has a terrific defense again but a weaker O-line no longer serving Lawrence and Etienne? Do they trust the officials would call a fair game when the ACC has so much to gain protecting Clemson? All to maybe improve their chance of winning from 10% to maybe 25 or 30%?
Or is it better to keep some of the "scheme" powder dry for the rest of the schedule? I think much depends on Jurkovec's timetable. Week 8 (really 7.5) of Jurkovec's recovery will be VT; Week 9 is @GT, Week 10 is FSU & Week 11 is Wake. #12 of course would be the ACCCG.
If Jurkovec really could come back in that time frame, BC should empty the bag of tricks to beat Clemson. That would get us to 5-0, with two weeks to prep for NC State and the tiebreaker over Clemson. Then we can hope to survive Louisville and Syracuse over Weeks 6 & 7 of the recovery. If Jurkovec can really come back we should bring him back to raise the ceiling for the championship.
If Jurkovec is a non-starter, or we lose before Clemson, then we should save the tricks to beat teams later in the schedule. If BC loses to either Temple or Missouri, we'll need them to get each win we can.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Jurk's injury is such a nut shot as the ACC is historically bad this year. After watching Clempson get lucky to beat GTeach, I think Missouri *may be the the best teem on our schedule.
*Giant FU to the iodate AD that scheduled this game.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Jurk's injury is such a nut shot as the ACC is historically bad this year. After watching Clempson get lucky to beat GTeach, I think Missouri *may be the the best teem on our schedule.
*Giant FU to the iodate AD that scheduled this game.
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