HJS {l Wrote}:Not enough people care for anything to explode.
That said, I’m glad Marty is continuing the spirit of social distancing by quarantining the basketball program from any fans for another year.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:i wonder how much the impending recession + possibility of no college football season (hence limited tv $$) had on this
thamel wrote an article on this today@julianbenbow
Boston College will keep head coach Jim Christian. BC finished with a losing record for the fifth time in Christian's six seasons. AD Martin Jarmond said, “There is so much uncertainty right now with everything. You need to be steady and you need to have calm in uncertain times.”
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Jarmond and Christian met face-to-face this morning. (They stayed six feet apart and used hand sanitizer when they left).
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They both expressed their outlook on the program. Jarmond gave his evaluation and expectations. Christian laid out the ways he felt the program could be better supported.
I get it, but this is very disappointing.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:Not enough people care for anything to explode.
That said, I’m glad Marty is continuing the spirit of social distancing by quarantining the basketball program from any fans for another year.
I’m probably the most diehard on the board (I still went to about every home game) and I just don’t care at this point.
The Langford deal makes me really nervous next year
BC923 {l Wrote}:No P5 schools are making changes because they’re worried about lower revenues next year.
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:No P5 schools are making changes because they’re worried about lower revenues next year.
Yup. His retention is completely understandable under the circumstances.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:No P5 schools are making changes because they’re worried about lower revenues next year.
Yup. His retention is completely understandable under the circumstances.
Completely disagree. He should’ve been fired after they lost to Pitt in the ACCT last year by about 30
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:No P5 schools are making changes because they’re worried about lower revenues next year.
Yup. His retention is completely understandable under the circumstances.
Completely disagree. He should’ve been fired after they lost to Pitt in the ACCT last year by about 30
Not talking about last year. I am talking about the circumstances on March 23, 2020 when the decision to keep him was announced. For all we know, BC will have reduced revenues in 20-21 because of the virus. It's a tough spot.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:No P5 schools are making changes because they’re worried about lower revenues next year.
Yup. His retention is completely understandable under the circumstances.
Completely disagree. He should’ve been fired after they lost to Pitt in the ACCT last year by about 30
Not talking about last year. I am talking about the circumstances on March 23, 2020 when the decision to keep him was announced. For all we know, BC will have reduced revenues in 20-21 because of the virus. It's a tough spot.
so instead they GUARANTEE they have reduced revenue by keeping the losingest coach in the conference? that doesn't seem like a sound decision either
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Well, at least I can ignore basketball for another year. Cowardly move by Marty. And spare me the uncertain budget bullshit. Even with the Chinese Virus Economic Implosion BC is still sitting on 3 billion (instead of 3.5 billion). Even if next season was going to be cancelled—which it will not—they still should have shit canned Jimmy MAC as a matter of principle.
We are such a second rate, small-timey athletic program burdened by cowardly leadership from the top down. I guess Marty is fine with this fiasco. They should just play the games in Power Gym and save the trouble of keeping the lights on in Conte. That will save them some money in uncertain times as well.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:We are such a second rate, small-timey athletic program burdened by cowardly leadership from the top down. I guess Marty is fine with this fiasco. They should just play the games in Power Gym and save the trouble of keeping the lights on in Conte. That will save them some money in uncertain times as well.
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Well, at least I can ignore basketball for another year. Cowardly move by Marty. And spare me the uncertain budget bullshit. Even with the Chinese Virus Economic Implosion BC is still sitting on 3 billion (instead of 3.5 billion). Even if next season was going to be cancelled—which it will not—they still should have shit canned Jimmy MAC as a matter of principle.
We are such a second rate, small-timey athletic program burdened by cowardly leadership from the top down. I guess Marty is fine with this fiasco. They should just play the games in Power Gym and save the trouble of keeping the lights on in Conte. That will save them some money in uncertain times as well.
They can't use the endowment money for whatever they want.
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:Manning was getting paid more than JC and his teams the last couple of years were worse. At Wake, recruiting was trending downward and players transferring out were much better than those coming in, in contrast to BC where the opposite is closer to the truth.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:and it cost a smaller school more for him to go away
mj has completely fucked up decisions around the basketball program over the last 14 months
HJS {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:and it cost a smaller school more for him to go away
mj has completely fucked up decisions around the basketball program over the last 14 months
Very soon after being hired, Marty made the decision to move on from Daz as quickly as possible. He also decided that he really liked JC and (with proper support) thought he could be the long term answer. Let’s not forget, Jarmond gave Jimmy Mac a very real extension thinking that we turned the corner by getting an NIT invite. That, more than anything, has been the mistake that Marty has had to live with. Corona gave him an easy excuse.
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:and it cost a smaller school more for him to go away
mj has completely fucked up decisions around the basketball program over the last 14 months
Very soon after being hired, Marty made the decision to move on from Daz as quickly as possible. He also decided that he really liked JC and (with proper support) thought he could be the long term answer. Let’s not forget, Jarmond gave Jimmy Mac a very real extension thinking that we turned the corner by getting an NIT invite. That, more than anything, has been the mistake that Marty has had to live with. Corona gave him an easy excuse.
We don't entirely know what is going on behind the scenes. Supposedly, BC had feelers out for Beilein and he had no interest. I'm sure Jarmond had some top targets and perhaps they said no way. The next hire may be the most important hire in the program's history and it needs to be as close as possible to a slam dunk hire. No point in blowing it up again for another MAC level coach or some random assistant.
Also, the trend for the basketball program both in recruiting and results, while ever so slight and a little bumpy, has been mostly upward. 6 wins in the first three years and 19 in the last three (with two extra games). Certainly not amazing and I'm not defending MJ's decision or JC, just saying that you can see the rationale if certain assumptions are being made.
ACC record
4-14
0-18
2-16
7-11
5-13
7-13
thebs19 {l Wrote}:MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:and it cost a smaller school more for him to go away
mj has completely fucked up decisions around the basketball program over the last 14 months
Very soon after being hired, Marty made the decision to move on from Daz as quickly as possible. He also decided that he really liked JC and (with proper support) thought he could be the long term answer. Let’s not forget, Jarmond gave Jimmy Mac a very real extension thinking that we turned the corner by getting an NIT invite. That, more than anything, has been the mistake that Marty has had to live with. Corona gave him an easy excuse.
We don't entirely know what is going on behind the scenes. Supposedly, BC had feelers out for Beilein and he had no interest. I'm sure Jarmond had some top targets and perhaps they said no way. The next hire may be the most important hire in the program's history and it needs to be as close as possible to a slam dunk hire. No point in blowing it up again for another MAC level coach or some random assistant.
Also, the trend for the basketball program both in recruiting and results, while ever so slight and a little bumpy, has been mostly upward. 6 wins in the first three years and 19 in the last three (with two extra games). Certainly not amazing and I'm not defending MJ's decision or JC, just saying that you can see the rationale if certain assumptions are being made.
ACC record
4-14
0-18
2-16
7-11
5-13
7-13
This has very little to do with an improving BC, and more to do with the ACC coming down a level where bad teams can steal wins (versus 5 years ago or so). The only team in the list above that is really any different than the others is that 2017-2018 team, which with 2 NBA guards got all the way to a "top of the lower quarter of the ACC" finish.
This year's "7-13" is meaningless without context. This wasn't a better team than last years or even the 2-16 team from 2016-2017.
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