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Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:jesus fucking moonbat christ
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Whenever I read an article about Newton, I think we need to either nuke it from outer space with neutron bombs or force the residents out of their homes on some sort of horrible Trail of Tears type that kills 90% of them before they reach a reservation outside of Enid, Oklahoma.
eagle33 {l Wrote}:So apparently, prior to BC getting involved, the congregation reached out to the city of newton to purchase the 24 acres and they passed. So BC makes the purchase and now the mayor, who happens to live adjacent to the property, want's to take it by eminent domain. BC offered to do a land swap and she turned that down as well. Let the court battle begin.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/09/30/newton-passed-chance-buy-prized-woodland-now-mayor-starting-legal-fight-with-boston-college-seize/bQcUOHALElHihBb3ei9fTP/story.html
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:eagle33 {l Wrote}:So apparently, prior to BC getting involved, the congregation reached out to the city of newton to purchase the 24 acres and they passed. So BC makes the purchase and now the mayor, who happens to live adjacent to the property, want's to take it by eminent domain. BC offered to do a land swap and she turned that down as well. Let the court battle begin.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/09/30/newton-passed-chance-buy-prized-woodland-now-mayor-starting-legal-fight-with-boston-college-seize/bQcUOHALElHihBb3ei9fTP/story.html
What was the land swap? I don’t subscribe to the Globe. Thanks
HJS {l Wrote}:I laughed at the $15mm acquisition price tag. It allows the board coverage for when a court slaps them with a number that is multiples thereof. I also chuckled at the all-in legal bill of $750k.
As a reminder, Boston College purchased the entire 25-acre parcel for $20 million in 2016. As part of that deal, BC let the former tenant to operate rent-free. Since then, BC has spent $5 million in renovating the facility and another $1.5 million to repair a sewer line that had been leaking for some years. Property in the area has only escalated significantly since. Last year, Hebrew College sold 7 acres in Newton for $18 million, and last month, a buyer paid Newbury College $34 million for its 10-acre campus in Brookline.
I will also point out that Newton has lost previous cases involving treating the Catholic institution differently than all others. To that end, Ruthanne Schwartz Fuller and the City of Newton never attempted to eminent domain (at a steep discount) when the Woods were under the ownership of a Jewish Synagogue. And, the city of Newton abstained from making such a move until the former tenant moved out and BC took control of the land.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/newto ... story.html
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:So BC is "Kelo" and the City of Newton is "New London?" BC should fight all the way to the supreme court on this one instead of being financially shafted. The make-up of the court is very different from 2005.
hansen {l Wrote}:Also, why is this in the football board?
HJS {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:So BC is "Kelo" and the City of Newton is "New London?" BC should fight all the way to the supreme court on this one instead of being financially shafted. The make-up of the court is very different from 2005.
The town can take the land. It's well-settled law. However, they have to pay fair market value. That is all the litigation will focus on. The comps are pretty easy to come by. I'd be surprised if it turns out to be less than $45mm.
hansen {l Wrote}:Also, why is this in the football board?
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:So BC is "Kelo" and the City of Newton is "New London?" BC should fight all the way to the supreme court on this one instead of being financially shafted. The make-up of the court is very different from 2005.
The town can take the land. It's well-settled law. However, they have to pay fair market value. That is all the litigation will focus on. The comps are pretty easy to come by. I'd be surprised if it turns out to be less than $45mm.
That was part of this whole Kelo vs New London nonsense. The question was never that they couldn't take the land. The battle was always over the price. The developer had to convince the court that the land where Kelo had her house was "blighted and worthless" to get it for a price low enough to justify construction on the new Pfizer drug building. (Viagra.) And the developer won (mostly because of the political make-up of the 2005 supreme court) and they paid a price only the developer wanted to pay, a price too low for any of the residents to be able to buy another house anywhere in New London. Houses were ripped down and now feral cats live there because the Pfizer building was never built. And the people of New London largelybecause they paid bottom dollar for the land. Watch that movie Little Pink House on Netflix and be horrified.
If you are right and the city of Newton is forced to pay $45 mil to take the land, they might just walk away. I think the city of Newton would be too angry to let BC have a $20 million profit than they would be pleased to take the land from BC.
Bryn Mawr Eagle {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:So BC is "Kelo" and the City of Newton is "New London?" BC should fight all the way to the supreme court on this one instead of being financially shafted. The make-up of the court is very different from 2005.
The town can take the land. It's well-settled law. However, they have to pay fair market value. That is all the litigation will focus on. The comps are pretty easy to come by. I'd be surprised if it turns out to be less than $45mm.
That was part of this whole Kelo vs New London nonsense. The question was never that they couldn't take the land. The battle was always over the price. The developer had to convince the court that the land where Kelo had her house was "blighted and worthless" to get it for a price low enough to justify construction on the new Pfizer drug building. (Viagra.) And the developer won (mostly because of the political make-up of the 2005 supreme court) and they paid a price only the developer wanted to pay, a price too low for any of the residents to be able to buy another house anywhere in New London. Houses were ripped down and now feral cats live there because the Pfizer building was never built. And the people of New London largelybecause they paid bottom dollar for the land. Watch that movie Little Pink House on Netflix and be horrified.
If you are right and the city of Newton is forced to pay $45 mil to take the land, they might just walk away. I think the city of Newton would be too angry to let BC have a $20 million profit than they would be pleased to take the land from BC.
I don't think you understand the main point of the Kelo decision. The Supreme Court was not concerned with the price.
AdamBC {l Wrote}:Newton wants to light tax dollars on fire: https://patch.com/massachusetts/newton/ ... ent-domain
hansen {l Wrote}:AdamBC {l Wrote}:Newton wants to light tax dollars on fire: https://patch.com/massachusetts/newton/ ... ent-domain
So they valued our 20 million dollar purchase at 15.2 million dollars.
Honestly, this is a declaration of war and I hope the school does everything in its power to fuck over newton at every turn going forward.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:AdamBC {l Wrote}:Newton wants to light tax dollars on fire: https://patch.com/massachusetts/newton/ ... ent-domain
So they valued our 20 million dollar purchase at 15.2 million dollars.
Honestly, this is a declaration of war and I hope the school does everything in its power to fuck over newton at every turn going forward.
They did not take all of it, but what they are taking, is still worth more than $15.2m.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BC should halt any free services it provides the city residents and cease any payments in lieu of taxes.
hansen {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BC should halt any free services it provides the city residents and cease any payments in lieu of taxes.
It bothers me so much because BC plays so nice with the town. The school has a history of preservation of land (beer can hill, etc.) and it's building policy is aesthetically pleasing (minus say the Plex which no longer exists and maybe edmunds/walsh). it's not like we are building soviet style skyscrapers like Syracuse for example. one of BC's selling campus is a beautiful campus and yet these fucking NIMBYs act like such baby maker.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:BC should halt any free services it provides the city residents and cease any payments in lieu of taxes.
It bothers me so much because BC plays so nice with the town. The school has a history of preservation of land (beer can hill, etc.) and it's building policy is aesthetically pleasing (minus say the Plex which no longer exists and maybe edmunds/walsh). it's not like we are building soviet style skyscrapers like Syracuse for example. one of BC's selling campus is a beautiful campus and yet these fucking NIMBYs act like such baby maker.
Edmunds is gone; Walsh is still there, unfortunately.
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