innocentbystander {l Wrote}:As I am broadcasting to you from a St Petersberg Marriott internet kiosk, Nick Saban is the man.
Up 31-10 at halftime, he's fucking bullshit. All he is talking about is the 3 penalties on his offense on the last drive. 74 (whoever that pitiful young man is) may not make it out of the locker room alive.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Oklahoma is doing its level best to make Notre Dame look like a decent football team
HJS {l Wrote}:These blowouts are an argument to just go back to old BCS where they match the 2 top teams. It is a waste to talk more about expansion as adding 2 more teams who cannot compete is akin to handing out Participation ribbons.
HJS {l Wrote}:These blowouts are an argument to just go back to old BCS where they match the 2 top teams. It is a waste to talk more about expansion as adding 2 more teams who cannot compete is akin to handing out Participation ribbons.
HJS {l Wrote}:These blowouts are an argument to just go back to old BCS where they match the 2 top teams. It is a waste to talk more about expansion as adding 2 more teams who cannot compete is akin to handing out Participation ribbons.
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The answer is to reduce the scholarships to 65. Pre WW2 the rosters were 30 players give or take with most players playing offense and defense. Too much talent sits on the bench.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Oklahoma is doing its level best to make Notre Dame look like a decent football team.
TontoKowalski {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Oklahoma is doing its level best to make Notre Dame look like a decent football team.
Question: I watched a few ND games this year and thought they would have a real shot against Teh Clemson. The offensive playcalling stuck out to me as idiotic - why didn't ND call things like rb screens or even a Dan Henning draw play (I died a little bit writing that)?
The Clemson D was penetrating every down anyway and 8 kept missing his blocks ... why not roll with it and try stuff that would punish the hyper-aggression on the sides? Also, their rb #2 looked good but they kept pulling him out for key downs or even when they had made a play or two. There a story there?
Physician friend of mine sees a lot of youth football injuries, tells me the rates and magnitudes of injuries have demonstrably spiked in recent years, and the reason is twofold: intense s&c increasingly available at younger ages plus yearlong single-sport specialization. Whether symptom or cause, the shirtless boy gurus focus on squat metrics and so forth shows kids at the high school level who can hit a lot harder than in prior years. Also, back in the day, good athletes always played three sports - three-sport athletes focused on skills and plays for each sport, rather than having eight months of the year for weight training and conditioning with youtube superstar strength coaches when skills training isn't happening.
Aside from this, though, if I was an ND fan I'd be incensed with Kelly today. And tomorrow. And for the rest of this year or so...
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The talent may have been equal in some spots, but ND was never winning that game with that OL. Worse than BC.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:TontoKowalski {l Wrote}:Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Oklahoma is doing its level best to make Notre Dame look like a decent football team.
Question: I watched a few ND games this year and thought they would have a real shot against Teh Clemson. The offensive playcalling stuck out to me as idiotic - why didn't ND call things like rb screens or even a Dan Henning draw play (I died a little bit writing that)?
The Clemson D was penetrating every down anyway and 8 kept missing his blocks ... why not roll with it and try stuff that would punish the hyper-aggression on the sides? Also, their rb #2 looked good but they kept pulling him out for key downs or even when they had made a play or two. There a story there?
Physician friend of mine sees a lot of youth football injuries, tells me the rates and magnitudes of injuries have demonstrably spiked in recent years, and the reason is twofold: intense s&c increasingly available at younger ages plus yearlong single-sport specialization. Whether symptom or cause, the shirtless boy gurus focus on squat metrics and so forth shows kids at the high school level who can hit a lot harder than in prior years. Also, back in the day, good athletes always played three sports - three-sport athletes focused on skills and plays for each sport, rather than having eight months of the year for weight training and conditioning with youtube superstar strength coaches when skills training isn't happening.
Aside from this, though, if I was an ND fan I'd be incensed with Kelly today. And tomorrow. And for the rest of this year or so...
All of the above is correct. Bigger and faster athletes, same sized field, specialized coaching, advanced S&C, equals ever more brutal collisions and a decline in even low level high school participation.
As for ND, that blow out is on Kelly and his shitastic coaching. I said it before the game—Dabo was laughing and joking and Kelly looked like he was going to shit his pants. The talent differential was minimal. Hell, as it turns out, coming out of the 2012 Prison Rape by Alabama, ND apparently has more players from that game still playing in the NFL and had the better pro receiver, TE, O-Linemen, and DB. Alabama was a deeper team, but the major difference is that Saban knows what he is doing and Kelly doesn’t.
Going back to two-way football with limited substitutions would be interesting. It would spell the death knell of 340 lb run stuffing DTs and 330 LB OTs and the end of kickers and punters. Don’t think it will ever happen, but would be cool to see.
The current model is unsustainable. My guess is within the next ten years you see a schism in both football and basketball with the low end academic schools going to a full minor league type model and the smaller schools and the academically superior schools (like BC) walking away and playing a scaled back version of D1 football—call it FCS Plus. Like the Service academies. Of course, that will go part and parcel with the coming implosion of the higher education bubble, which frankly can’t happen soon enough.
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Football is a southern game. The northeast and Midwest continue to decline in football. I’m no fan of Kelly, but ND can’t compete with the top southern teams. It’s gone on now for so many years that you cannot call it a cycle. Kids in the Northeast and Midwest play hockey and lacrosse. Football is in decline, not growing in these areas. When you see a national tv ad with a ND mom urging other moms to let their kids play football, you know the sport is in trouble. Reducing the scholarships would help with parity.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}: but they both like hockey better and I expect football will be flushed when the oldest starts serious travel hockey next year (although I will insist he continue to play baseball and other sports that fit around hockey’s season as I think specialization is bad for kids and their development as athletes).
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