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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby Logitano on Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:59 am

cremins wrote:don't really get ham not coming to BC. no eichenberg, he was the stud lber of this class at a school with a pretty good LB tradition.
I guess we have some good young lbers on the team but don't get it.


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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:59 am

Here is my take...

1. As I have been saying all along, Daz is a good evaluator and recruiter. The latest poaching of players identified over the summer just further supports that for folks who were stubbornly in disbelief. I think he is questionable as a developer of talent and a flat out awful coach. But, he is a very good salesman.

2. Ham is a loss, but only because we are thin at LB with this class (with the combined loss of Eichenberg). From a quality perspective, I think we would've easily filled the spot with comparable talent if the decommit occurred August. In spite of him apprently pulling a Dillon Quinn at a 247 Camp, he only got a second Big 5 offer when Colorado's new staff is scrambling to fill its class and are flinging around offers.

3. Smith and Eichenberg are the losses. That said, BC is always going to have trouble holding onto an Ohio kid with an OSU offer and a Florida kid with an FSU offer (even if we were 10-2). But, there was talent there that is impossible to replace at this stage.

4. We still have some irons in the fire with Greico, Deberry, Carter and Pyne. Hopefully, some of these slide our way. I believe Carter will end up at LT when all said and done. So, not a perfect contingency to losing Smith (who was an interior lineman), but it would be something. If Greico can grow into a LB, he very well may be a better long term prospect than Ham.

5. I don't think we kept Daz to "save the class". But, if that was part of the thinking, I hope that losing 2 of our top 5 recruits will make folks aware of the folly.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:49 am

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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:27 pm

Here is your contingency plan for losing Smith.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jermaine-D ... -46054590/

Credit the staff for having one. Don't know exactly why he verballed to Temple over impressive early interest:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/col ... 80621.html
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby flakes on Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:50 pm

what's our plan at QB?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:01 pm

Has anyone heard anything about Romain Mungin flipping to Bowling Green?
Am I reading this right?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:04 pm

i believe it's an academic thing
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:42 pm

claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:25 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.

We're walking a tightrope closing out this class. Lose Mungin, gain DeBerry. Lose Smith, gain Donaldson. Lose Ham, gain Grieco.
Here's the problem... we haven't gotten confirmation of the additions, but have been assured of the losses.

Also... has anyone have any news on Pyne and Carter?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:00 pm

And like that... one of the replacements isn't a replacement.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Vender/status/ ... 7986684928
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:42 pm

'Tis the season for ISL flyers.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:13 am

HJS wrote:And like that... one of the replacements isn't a replacement.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Vender/status/ ... 7986684928


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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:34 am

HJS wrote:
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.

We're walking a tightrope closing out this class. Lose Mungin, gain DeBerry. Lose Smith, gain Donaldson. Lose Ham, gain Grieco.
Here's the problem... we haven't gotten confirmation of the additions, but have been assured of the losses.

Also... has anyone have any news on Pyne and Carter?


apparently pyne is staying '20 but that's not CONFIRMED, my guess is he ends up at ND

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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:58 am

In:
Josh DeBerry
Shittah Sillah
Pat Garwo
Bryce Sebastian
Sam Johnson
I Henderson
Ethon Williams
B Rustemi
Jack Conley
J Williams
Jackson Ness
Zay Flowers
Spencer Bono
Ireland Burke
S Lubisher
Connor Grieco

think that is everyone
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:16 am

Greico signed (offers: academies, cal, oregon, rutgres, uva, wvu) https://247sports.com/Player/Connor-Grieco-46050463/
Deberry signed (offers: wake, nw, iowa, isu, kentucky) https://247sports.com/Player/Josh-DeBerry-46052074/
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby angrychicken on Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:49 am

Any word on Nails MacFugger?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 am

Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:57 am

In news from ATL... tough day for HCRD. They lost their #1 Recruit to Bama (Jordan Battle) and their QB recruit to Georgia (Dwan Mathis). Eichenberg was their only flip.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:04 am

HJS wrote:Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.


Are we out with Pyne and Carter?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:11 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
HJS wrote:Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.


Are we out with Pyne and Carter?


Pyne ended up switching back to 2020 he’ll EE in that class. BC still heavily involved. Carter might not sign this signing period and wait until February that’s up in the air.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:25 am

247 saying BC flipped Mike Ciafoni from UMass at OL
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:35 am

Daz continues to fail the team at O Line.

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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:45 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:247 saying BC flipped Mike Ciafoni from UMass at OL


247 has him listed as a 6'3" 265 DT
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:57 pm

I know we dont follow recruiting rankings, but 52nd?
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby BC923 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:02 pm

DuchesneEast wrote:I know we dont follow recruiting rankings, but 52nd?

Taking a smaller class won't help you there, and still ranked ahead of pretty much all recent classes
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:06 pm

Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby BC923 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:09 pm

hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby Cadillac90 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:47 pm

hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.


Why? It is pretty plain as day.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:06 pm

BC923 wrote:
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too


Colorado has been a head coach for a total of 5 games in the NFL and went 2-3. That’s the extent of his head coaching expertise.
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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

Postby BC923 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:15 pm

hansen wrote:
BC923 wrote:
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too


Colorado has been a head coach for a total of 5 games in the NFL and went 2-3. That’s the extent of his head coaching expertise.

Were they not the ones that hired the Georgia DC?
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