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2018 NFL Draft

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:17 am

Kiper has Landry going at #25 in the 1st. He and Yiadom will be playing in the SR Bowl. Kam Moore was also invited but will not be playing because of the injury (shoulder?) he suffered in the VTech game.

Of note, Christian Wilkins is not declaring for the draft.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:46 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:Kiper has Landry going at #25 in the 1st. He and Yiadom will be playing in the SR Bowl. Cam Moore was also invited but will not be playing because of the injury (shoulder?) he suffered in the VTech game.

Of note, Christian Wilkins is not declaring for the draft.


It's Kam Moore.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:47 am

surprised about wilkins, initial reports had him as a top 10 pick. good for dabo
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby HJS on Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:32 am

claver2010 wrote:surprised about wilkins, initial reports had him as a top 10 pick. good for dabo

I've also seen Wilkins projected to the first round (but not Top 10). However, I've also seen it with the caveat of questioning his size. He is listed at 6'4" and most believe he is 2-3 inches shorter than that. Also, he was completely a non-factor in the Bama loss. I don't know if he was hurt, but he was dominated by each member of the Bama OLine.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby MilitantEagle on Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:54 am

HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:surprised about wilkins, initial reports had him as a top 10 pick. good for dabo

I've also seen Wilkins projected to the first round (but not Top 10). However, I've also seen it with the caveat of questioning his size. He is listed at 6'4" and most believe he is 2-3 inches shorter than that. Also, he was completely a non-factor in the Bama loss. I don't know if he was hurt, but he was dominated by each member of the Bama OLine.


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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby hansen on Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:14 am

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:19 pm

I was interested in Landry at one point for the Bucs, but not at 7.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:44 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:Kiper has Landry going at #25 in the 1st. He and Yiadom will be playing in the SR Bowl. Kam Moore was also invited but will not be playing because of the injury (shoulder?) he suffered in the VTech game.


Landry also is not playing now.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby BCMurt09 on Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:31 am

The growth of the DBs has been interesting to watch. One of the better units on the team. Simmons, Johnson both in the NFL, now Yiadom and Kam Moore. Simmons was having a good season this year until his injury.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:26 pm

Was one of the biggest weaknesses on the team for quite a while, imo.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby BCEagles25 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:41 am

BCMurt09 wrote:The growth of the DBs has been interesting to watch. One of the better units on the team. Simmons, Johnson both in the NFL, now Yiadom and Kam Moore. Simmons was having a good season this year until his injury.


And I think Yiadom can make it, too. He might be one of those late-round steals
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby BCEagles25 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:43 am

eepstein0 wrote:I was interested in Landry at one point for the Bucs, but not at 7.


I think you guys might be looking for safety help - Fitzpatrick would be perfect if he fell a bit
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:13 pm

BCEagles25 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:I was interested in Landry at one point for the Bucs, but not at 7.


I think you guys might be looking for safety help - Fitzpatrick would be perfect if he fell a bit


Unlikely they seem to really like Justin Evans.

They’ll draft Nelson or Chubb.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:36 pm

Chubb won't be on the board. Nelson.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:24 pm

twballgame9 wrote:Chubb won't be on the board. Nelson.


I think Chubb could still be there because teams will take QBs in front of us.

Either way draft Nelson, kick Marpet back to guard and sign a center.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby hansen on Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:45 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:Chubb won't be on the board. Nelson.


I think Chubb could still be there because teams will take QBs in front of us.

Either way draft Nelson, kick Marpet back to guard and sign a center.

The DL is still the worst in the NFL


Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:54 pm

hansen wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:Chubb won't be on the board. Nelson.


I think Chubb could still be there because teams will take QBs in front of us.

Either way draft Nelson, kick Marpet back to guard and sign a center.

The DL is still the worst in the NFL


Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.


Rosen, Allen and Darnold at minimum will go between 1-6 and wouldn’t surprise me if some team traded up to get a Mayfield.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby hansen on Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:31 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
hansen wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:Chubb won't be on the board. Nelson.


I think Chubb could still be there because teams will take QBs in front of us.

Either way draft Nelson, kick Marpet back to guard and sign a center.

The DL is still the worst in the NFL


Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.


Rosen, Allen and Darnold at minimum will go between 1-6 and wouldn’t surprise me if some team traded up to get a Mayfield.


I know what will happen but how many times have teams wasted picks on a QB in the first?
I forgot about Rosen. He seems the safest of the four but still a risk imo.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:37 am

hansen wrote:
Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.

People said that in 2016 and that draft produced Wentz, Goff and Prescott. If you're the GM of the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets you should swing for the fences.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:50 am

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
hansen wrote:
Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.

People said that in 2016 and that draft produced Wentz, Goff and Prescott. If you're the GM of the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets you should swing for the fences.


People were pretty sure Goff and Wentz were good.

This group is much different. The arguable best QB in the draft, Darnold, was mediocre this season.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:02 am

disagree on goff, every was ready to trash him after his rookie season
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby DuchesneEast on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:12 am

twballgame9 wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
hansen wrote:
Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.

People said that in 2016 and that draft produced Wentz, Goff and Prescott. If you're the GM of the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets you should swing for the fences.


People were pretty sure Goff and Wentz were good.

This group is much different. The arguable best QB in the draft, Darnold, was mediocre this season.


Still young. I think Rosen sitting behind Eli will be a great exp for him. Unlike Brady or Farve, I can actually see Eli doing some mentoring.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:12 am

claver2010 wrote:disagree on goff, every was ready to trash him after his rookie season


After his rookie season is a year of hindsight being 20/20. The question is whether heading into the draft, this draft is like the 2016 draft for QBs. His premise is no one knew with those three and look what happened! so you should take a flyer on Rosen, Darnaud, Allen or Mayfield. My premise is that heading into the draft in 2016, there were far less questions about either Goff or Wentz than there are about these 4 guys. The perception of Goff a year later is irrelevant to that point.

I happen to think teams would be stupid to use a top 10 pick on any of the 4. That's not to say that there isn't a good player there, but these QBs are not in the top 15-20 players in the country. QB desperate teams are certain to overreach. Maybe they will get lucky.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby flyingelvii on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:22 am

Goff had never called a play from an actual huddle and Wentz played at ND State. There were plenty of questions. No idea if there were more or less than this class, but there were plenty.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 am

Okay. I don't care enough to argue this point. Good luck to whomever drafts one of these 4 in the top 10.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:34 am

flyingelvii wrote:Goff had never called a play from an actual huddle and Wentz played at ND State. There were plenty of questions. No idea if there were more or less than this class, but there were plenty.

This is what I remember the general perception being.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:33 pm

DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Goff had never called a play from an actual huddle and Wentz played at ND State. There were plenty of questions. No idea if there were more or less than this class, but there were plenty.

This is what I remember the general perception being.


People were trading up to get those guys. This class is meh.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:57 pm

twballgame9 wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Goff had never called a play from an actual huddle and Wentz played at ND State. There were plenty of questions. No idea if there were more or less than this class, but there were plenty.

This is what I remember the general perception being.


People were trading up to get those guys. This class is meh.


Neither was an Andrew Luck type “sure thing” or a Cam Newton like phenomenon due to the points mentioned above (Goff wasn’t allowed to change anything at the line, Wentz competition issues), but the bruises on this years apples are a lot worse IMO.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:45 pm

twballgame9 wrote:Okay. I don't care enough to argue this point. Good luck to whomever drafts one of these 4 in the top 10.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft

Postby RegalBCeagle on Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:02 pm

DuchesneEast wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:
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Really don’t think the QBs coming out this year are any good.
If I was an NFL GM, no way in hell I risk a high first round pick on an unproven QB.

People said that in 2016 and that draft produced Wentz, Goff and Prescott. If you're the GM of the Browns, Giants, Broncos or Jets you should swing for the fences.


People were pretty sure Goff and Wentz were good.

This group is much different. The arguable best QB in the draft, Darnold, was mediocre this season.


Still young. I think Rosen sitting behind Eli will be a great exp for him. Unlike Brady or Farve, I can actually see Eli doing some mentoring.


Is that something a person would actually want? Eli is fucking terrible and mildly innocentbystanderded.
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