TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:the players seem to like him
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Strengths:
1) Motivating Players - say what you want, you haven't seen much quit out of the players regardless of how bad the season gets.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:3) Media Presence (when things are going well...) - ESPN Carwash, Coaches' Film Room at the National Championship game a few years back.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:He is awful and yet he is a 5-8 win guy here depending on the schedule. Shows you how big the divide in the ACC is between the basement and the good teams, there really isn't much of a middle right now (maybe Ga Tech and N. Carolina?)
Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:He's terrible. Bad oline after four years. Really bad. Still doesn't have anyone better than awful Towles to play QB. Our offense is bottom of the barrel in Div I again this year. NCState and Wake almost gave us those two games. He gave away the GTECH game. Syracuse passed us silly. Four of the worst blowouts in BC history. And, recruiting is dismal. What would we be saying if we were 0-8 again in the ACC this year -- which we easily could be?
We beat Wake but the offense looked retarded for most of the game.
USC, 2014: the Trojans didn't get off the plane; it was chilly and wet; they thought the game was over by the second quarter -- as it had been the year before; their coach didn't stop trying to run the ball until too late; and we had Murphy. Almost any team can be beaten if it does not take the opponent seriously from the get go.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:He's terrible. Bad oline after four years. Really bad. Still doesn't have anyone better than awful Towles to play QB. Our offense is bottom of the barrel in Div I again this year. NCState and Wake almost gave us those two games. He gave away the GTECH game. Syracuse passed us silly. Four of the worst blowouts in BC history. And, recruiting is dismal. What would we be saying if we were 0-8 again in the ACC this year -- which we easily could be?
We beat Wake but the offense looked retarded for most of the game.
USC, 2014: the Trojans didn't get off the plane; it was chilly and wet; they thought the game was over by the second quarter -- as it had been the year before; their coach didn't stop trying to run the ball until too late; and we had Murphy. Almost any team can be beaten if it does not take the opponent seriously from the get go.
Let's not go full retard here.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Strengths:
1) Motivating Players - say what you want, you haven't seen much quit out of the players regardless of how bad the season gets.
2) Managing the Defensive Coaches/Scheme/Approach - or frankly just hiring decent assistants
3) Media Presence (when things are going well...) - ESPN Carwash, Coaches' Film Room at the National Championship game a few years back.
4) Recruiting (when things are going well...) - he has brought in some good recruits and transfers, particularly after the two 7-win seasons.
Weaknesses:
1) Game Management - Bonehead decision after bonehead decision. Has found a way to make having 3 timeouts a liability.
2) Managing the Offensive Coaches/Scheme/Approach - Eating clock and getting to the 4th worked a few times (i.e. USC) but is generally a bad scheme. 4 OC's in 4 years. Zero adaptability.
2) Personnel Decisions and Depth Chart Management - Mind-boggling decisions on starters and playing time (i.e. Louie, Towles, Hilliman in '16, Lichtenberg).
3) Sideline Presence - He's an embarrassing clown when he doesn't get his way. How many personal fouls has he gotten on the sidelines?
4) Media Presence (when things are going badly...) - Coach ThinSkin
5) Recruiting (when things are going badly...) - Abandon ship!
So yeah, on the whole he's bad. I do feel like all of '15 and the blowout games in '16 have really accentuated the negatives and probably skew things a bit. If 6-8 wins becomes the norm and he's less edgy and defensive all the time and has a program that's decent enough to sell to the media and recruits he probably becomes more of a mediocre coach than a terrible coach.
Nobody, anywhere, based on his now 6 years of head coaching experience can claim he is even remotely a good overall coach.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:He is awful and yet he is a 5-8 win guy here depending on the schedule. Shows you how big the divide in the ACC is between the basement and the good teams, there really isn't much of a middle right now (maybe Ga Tech and N. Carolina?)
How many games did he win last season?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:He's terrible. Bad oline after four years. Really bad. Still doesn't have anyone better than awful Towles to play QB. Our offense is bottom of the barrel in Div I again this year. NCState and Wake almost gave us those two games. He gave away the GTECH game. Syracuse passed us silly. Four of the worst blowouts in BC history. And, recruiting is dismal. What would we be saying if we were 0-8 again in the ACC this year -- which we easily could be?
We beat Wake but the offense looked retarded for most of the game.
USC, 2014: the Trojans didn't get off the plane; it was chilly and wet; they thought the game was over by the second quarter -- as it had been the year before; their coach didn't stop trying to run the ball until too late; and we had Murphy. Almost any team can be beaten if it does not take the opponent seriously from the get go.
Let's not go full retard here.
Supahfan99 {l Wrote}:Back in the days of TOB there was a wise man named CaptainCoop, he may have promoted himself to CommodoreCoop at one point, IDK.
In his desire to get TOB to "pack yer bags" he laid things out nicely in terms of TOB vs elite teams, TOB vs cupcakes, and most importantly TOB vs peer institutions. At the time, it was fairly easy to figure out who was a peer program. It may be a bit harder now but I would find it interesting to see what the records were in similar fashion for coaches TOB to current.
ps - Daz sucks. Happy for the players but annoyed the players like him if that is true. Remember Spaz was also loved and look where that got us (thanks Herzylax).
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lowery is a complete matador, amazing someone who had started 30 some odd games before this year and earned all conference could be that bad.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Supahfan99 {l Wrote}:Back in the days of TOB there was a wise man named CaptainCoop, he may have promoted himself to CommodoreCoop at one point, IDK.
In his desire to get TOB to "pack yer bags" he laid things out nicely in terms of TOB vs elite teams, TOB vs cupcakes, and most importantly TOB vs peer institutions. At the time, it was fairly easy to figure out who was a peer program. It may be a bit harder now but I would find it interesting to see what the records were in similar fashion for coaches TOB to current.
ps - Daz sucks. Happy for the players but annoyed the players like him if that is true. Remember Spaz was also loved and look where that got us (thanks Herzylax).
Cupcakes: 12-1
Peers: 8-11
baby rapists: 3-15
if we assume the below (certainly open to changes)
Arizona Peer
Army Cupcake
Buffalo Cupcake
Clemson baby rapists
Colorado State Cupcake
Duke Peer
FSU baby rapists
Georgia Tech Peer
Howard Cupcake
Louisville baby rapists
Maine Cupcake
Maryland Peer
NC State Peer
New Mexico State Cupcake
Northern Illinois Cupcake
Notre Dame baby rapists
Penn State Peer
Pitt Peer
Syracuse Peer
UConn Cupcake
UMass Cupcake
UNC Peer
USC baby rapists
Villanova Cupcake
Virginia Tech baby rapists
Wagner Cupcake
Wake Forest Peer
last time bc hit >21 against a peer school: ped state pinstripe bowl
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Brooklyneagle {l Wrote}:He's terrible. Bad oline after four years. Really bad. Still doesn't have anyone better than awful Towles to play QB. Our offense is bottom of the barrel in Div I again this year. NCState and Wake almost gave us those two games. He gave away the GTECH game. Syracuse passed us silly. Four of the worst blowouts in BC history. And, recruiting is dismal. What would we be saying if we were 0-8 again in the ACC this year -- which we easily could be?
We beat Wake but the offense looked retarded for most of the game.
USC, 2014: the Trojans didn't get off the plane; it was chilly and wet; they thought the game was over by the second quarter -- as it had been the year before; their coach didn't stop trying to run the ball until too late; and we had Murphy. Almost any team can be beaten if it does not take the opponent seriously from the get go.
Let's not go full retard here.
Too fucking late, holy shit
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