twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Admissions are clearly easier there
longdistanceeagle {l Wrote}:Reserve your copy now. There will be some very interesting reading. Should be quite provocative.
gamer5252 {l Wrote}:With all due respect to LDE, that was a pretty vanilla piece...it really just stated the obvious and I thought it was fair towards Father Leahy... That's what happens when your football and basketball teams are in the shit...I have confidence in Christian that he will get it turned around.. And I think Addazio will be back to 500 by next season... Addzio's handling of QB's is rediculous though... he was so lucky Murphy came here...
Globe correspondent Mark Blaudschun contributed to this report. Bob Hohler can be reached at robert.hohler@globe.com.
Snooks Kelly {l Wrote}:longdistanceeagle {l Wrote}:Reserve your copy now. There will be some very interesting reading. Should be quite provocative.
The article is up - nothing we ddidn't know.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/ ... story.html
gamer5252 {l Wrote}:With all due respect to LDE, that was a pretty vanilla piece...it really just stated the obvious and I thought it was fair towards Father Leahy... That's what happens when your football and basketball teams are in the shit...I have confidence in Christian that he will get it turned around.. And I think Addazio will be back to 500 by next season... Addzio's handling of QB's is rediculous though... he was so lucky Murphy came here...
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
What does that even mean "he was lucky that Murphy came here" ?? You think that would have changed anything had Wade played as a True Freshman ? Addazio would have gotten a pass for that year and last year assuming Wade still got hurt (one for having to play a true freshman and the other for having a QB, who would then have had a year of experience, getting injured). Addazio still wouldn't have been fired, regardless of record, had Murphy come here or not. For everyone that whines that Addazio can't "develop" a QB, you have to give him credit for what he did with Murphy in 1 year (a guy who couldn't throw and played about 4 SEC games).
I said it in the other board, but this article wasn't earth shattering as LDE had warned. I thought it was very fair, and hopefully causes some change in the administration, especially with the BOT. I didn't realize Barbour was out of the picture either. Hopefully the BOT gets more involved like the article pointed out in regards to other school's boards having athletics committees, additional leadership is definitely needed.
eagle33 {l Wrote}:BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
What does that even mean "he was lucky that Murphy came here" ?? You think that would have changed anything had Wade played as a True Freshman ? Addazio would have gotten a pass for that year and last year assuming Wade still got hurt (one for having to play a true freshman and the other for having a QB, who would then have had a year of experience, getting injured). Addazio still wouldn't have been fired, regardless of record, had Murphy come here or not. For everyone that whines that Addazio can't "develop" a QB, you have to give him credit for what he did with Murphy in 1 year (a guy who couldn't throw and played about 4 SEC games).
I said it in the other board, but this article wasn't earth shattering as LDE had warned. I thought it was very fair, and hopefully causes some change in the administration, especially with the BOT. I didn't realize Barbour was out of the picture either. Hopefully the BOT gets more involved like the article pointed out in regards to other school's boards having athletics committees, additional leadership is definitely needed.
The Murphy addition was a good move by Daz no question. But with a year of Towles in 2016, Daz could go into his 5th year without a qb that has any real game experience. Whose fault will that be? If that happens, in what year of Daz can we expect to see a capable starter groomed by this staff, 6, 7? I ask because I don't see Wade improving by sitting on the bench behind Towles. I hope it truly will be an open competition for the starting qb this year and Wade wins out.
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:eagle33 {l Wrote}:BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
What does that even mean "he was lucky that Murphy came here" ?? You think that would have changed anything had Wade played as a True Freshman ? Addazio would have gotten a pass for that year and last year assuming Wade still got hurt (one for having to play a true freshman and the other for having a QB, who would then have had a year of experience, getting injured). Addazio still wouldn't have been fired, regardless of record, had Murphy come here or not. For everyone that whines that Addazio can't "develop" a QB, you have to give him credit for what he did with Murphy in 1 year (a guy who couldn't throw and played about 4 SEC games).
I said it in the other board, but this article wasn't earth shattering as LDE had warned. I thought it was very fair, and hopefully causes some change in the administration, especially with the BOT. I didn't realize Barbour was out of the picture either. Hopefully the BOT gets more involved like the article pointed out in regards to other school's boards having athletics committees, additional leadership is definitely needed.
The Murphy addition was a good move by Daz no question. But with a year of Towles in 2016, Daz could go into his 5th year without a qb that has any real game experience. Whose fault will that be? If that happens, in what year of Daz can we expect to see a capable starter groomed by this staff, 6, 7? I ask because I don't see Wade improving by sitting on the bench behind Towles. I hope it truly will be an open competition for the starting qb this year and Wade wins out.
I completely agree with you, and I don't think that Addazio is going to just let Wade sit and rot behind Towles (I don't see him being that stupid). My only question was to your comment on Murphy and how it was "lucky" to have him. In the grand scheme of things, Addazio is in same spot with job safety (the diff likely being less career wins for a QB with some exp). You have to give Addazio/staff credit for how they developed Murphy in one year, which leaves me at least some optimism that they can do something with Wade in a short period. I think Addazio rolled the dice last year (not getting 5th year and starting Wade), to have a situation setting up an experienced Wade exactly as you stated above, but with it backfiring because of injury and his job on the line, he had to do something to win next year.
The other thing that has to be kept in mind with re: to Wade, is he will (hopefully) only be a RS Soph next year (should get medical RS) and Towles playing will go a long way in fixing the year gap at the QB position. That would leave him in a very similar situation to many of the QBs of the TOB era (starting 2 years after a RS and a few years in program, with a year under Loeffler in his offense). Every QB is going to go into a year without major starting experience, its just what happens, hopefully Addazio can get him meaningful snaps this year to speed up next years learning curve.
longdistanceeagle {l Wrote}:Sorry to get you all worked up. The people I spoke to didn't know any specifics; they were guessing (anticipating) based on the author, his past work, and some of the questions he asked. The staff thought it was going to be a hatchet job, they just did not know who might be attacked. The administration had them all geared up. I can tell you for a fact JC only spoke with him for 10 minutes. He told me he didn't know where it was going.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:I second what HJS just said. Can't believe I just posted that
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:eagle33 {l Wrote}:BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
What does that even mean "he was lucky that Murphy came here" ?? You think that would have changed anything had Wade played as a True Freshman ? Addazio would have gotten a pass for that year and last year assuming Wade still got hurt (one for having to play a true freshman and the other for having a QB, who would then have had a year of experience, getting injured). Addazio still wouldn't have been fired, regardless of record, had Murphy come here or not. For everyone that whines that Addazio can't "develop" a QB, you have to give him credit for what he did with Murphy in 1 year (a guy who couldn't throw and played about 4 SEC games).
I said it in the other board, but this article wasn't earth shattering as LDE had warned. I thought it was very fair, and hopefully causes some change in the administration, especially with the BOT. I didn't realize Barbour was out of the picture either. Hopefully the BOT gets more involved like the article pointed out in regards to other school's boards having athletics committees, additional leadership is definitely needed.
The Murphy addition was a good move by Daz no question. But with a year of Towles in 2016, Daz could go into his 5th year without a qb that has any real game experience. Whose fault will that be? If that happens, in what year of Daz can we expect to see a capable starter groomed by this staff, 6, 7? I ask because I don't see Wade improving by sitting on the bench behind Towles. I hope it truly will be an open competition for the starting qb this year and Wade wins out.
I completely agree with you, and I don't think that Addazio is going to just let Wade sit and rot behind Towles (I don't see him being that stupid). My only question was to your comment on Murphy and how it was "lucky" to have him. In the grand scheme of things, Addazio is in same spot with job safety (the diff likely being less career wins for a QB with some exp). You have to give Addazio/staff credit for how they developed Murphy in one year, which leaves me at least some optimism that they can do something with Wade in a short period. I think Addazio rolled the dice last year (not getting 5th year and starting Wade), to have a situation setting up an experienced Wade exactly as you stated above, but with it backfiring because of injury and his job on the line, he had to do something to win next year.
The other thing that has to be kept in mind with re: to Wade, is he will (hopefully) only be a RS Soph next year (should get medical RS) and Towles playing will go a long way in fixing the year gap at the QB position. That would leave him in a very similar situation to many of the QBs of the TOB era (starting 2 years after a RS and a few years in program, with a year under Loeffler in his offense). Every QB is going to go into a year without major starting experience, its just what happens, hopefully Addazio can get him meaningful snaps this year to speed up next years learning curve.
Logitano {l Wrote}:The members of the staff that worked wonders with Murphy are no longer working for BC. Based on watching addaziani handling qbs last year it was quite clear he had nothing to do with Murphy's improvements.
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:The members of the staff that worked wonders with Murphy are no longer working for BC. Based on watching addaziani handling qbs last year it was quite clear he had nothing to do with Murphy's improvements.
What did you really expect him to do with the QBs on the roster last year ? He gave the 2 on scholarship a chance to win the job (on the fly) and then settled on the best one (Fadule) who was a walk on. Trying to take anything from last year is just dumb. I love the people that complain that Addazio can't develop talent, then point to the coordinators as the ones who developed the ones who actually have had success. Day may be gone, but you can argue that they upgraded in terms of having a QB coach who can develop talent, and has a much better resume over time (hell Loeffler basically got a TE drafted as a QB in the NFL in Logan Thomas).
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Seriously, any one that gives a fuck about that article should die.
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