ILikeBC {l Wrote}:If he isn't, he fucking should be. MAC hires = MAC results.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I wouldn't be shocked if he were. As much as they don't care, Leahy and the BOT don't like being embarrassed and BC Athletics as the most visible part of the school to the general public is embarrassing itself. Been all over ESPN lately.
I saw them advertising the football schedule. God bless you if you want to buy season tickets to watch that shit show of teams come to Alumni.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:I gotta give Bates credit, aside from the lip-stick on the pig facilities announcement, I hadn't seen BC basketball or football covered that much by the AP until this story highlighting our futility in these 2 sports during ACC play. 'They' say that no press is bad press, so I guess this is the first instance that we have concrete evidence pointing to bates not being an utter failure!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the ... 46944.html
"Boston College's dubious double is the latest embarrassment for an athletic department that has endured plenty of adversity in recent years.
Not since the 2008-09 school year have the Eagles been above .500 in both football and men's basketball. They've had three football coaches since Tom O'Brien's departure in 2006 and two basketball coaches since Al Skinner's firing in 2010."
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
No. The revenue producing sports are the barometer of success, always have been and always will be.
Furthermore, without doing research, I don't believe that Bates hired Jerry York or the baseball coach(could be wrong). I have no clue about the soccer coaches and also don't care. So even if you call this a successful year, this doesn't have anything to do with Bates.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
I'm going to stop there. I know Basketball and Football are the only sports that make ESPN, and I know that this was an epic-ly bad year for Basketball and Football. And I know that nobody wants to hear more excuses about youth and injuries (in both Basketball and Football). And I know that nobody wants to talk about how things will likely improve drastically in Football and will at least improve somewhat in Basketball. But, how about some credit where credit is due. Men's and Women's Soccer took big steps forward. Baseball and Softball both look to be on a major upswing. Hockey has never been better. And now we've finally seen a commitment to facilities.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
StratEagle {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
I'm going to stop there. I know Basketball and Football are the only sports that make ESPN, and I know that this was an epic-ly bad year for Basketball and Football. And I know that nobody wants to hear more excuses about youth and injuries (in both Basketball and Football). And I know that nobody wants to talk about how things will likely improve drastically in Football and will at least improve somewhat in Basketball. But, how about some credit where credit is due. Men's and Women's Soccer took big steps forward. Baseball and Softball both look to be on a major upswing. Hockey has never been better. And now we've finally seen a commitment to facilities.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
No one gives a fuck about any sports besides football and basketball, Mrs. Bates.
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:StratEagle {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
I'm going to stop there. I know Basketball and Football are the only sports that make ESPN, and I know that this was an epic-ly bad year for Basketball and Football. And I know that nobody wants to hear more excuses about youth and injuries (in both Basketball and Football). And I know that nobody wants to talk about how things will likely improve drastically in Football and will at least improve somewhat in Basketball. But, how about some credit where credit is due. Men's and Women's Soccer took big steps forward. Baseball and Softball both look to be on a major upswing. Hockey has never been better. And now we've finally seen a commitment to facilities.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
No one gives a fuck about any sports besides football and basketball, Mrs. Bates.
This is a yukon conference realignment level type post. Honestly, you could argue that basketball doesn't even really matter, football drives the bus, the rest (for the most part) are just a drain on footballs potential resources.
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:StratEagle {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
I'm going to stop there. I know Basketball and Football are the only sports that make ESPN, and I know that this was an epic-ly bad year for Basketball and Football. And I know that nobody wants to hear more excuses about youth and injuries (in both Basketball and Football). And I know that nobody wants to talk about how things will likely improve drastically in Football and will at least improve somewhat in Basketball. But, how about some credit where credit is due. Men's and Women's Soccer took big steps forward. Baseball and Softball both look to be on a major upswing. Hockey has never been better. And now we've finally seen a commitment to facilities.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
No one gives a fuck about any sports besides football and basketball, Mrs. Bates.
This is a yukon conference realignment level type post. Honestly, you could argue that basketball doesn't even really matter, football drives the bus, the rest (for the most part) are just a drain on footballs potential resources.
I'm coming at this from the perspective of assuming significant improvement in 2016. I'm in the injuries-and-youth-excuse camp and I see 2015-2016 basketball and football as anomalies, not trends.
Let's revisit this after next season, after football wins 7 or 8 games and is looking really promising, basketball wins closer to 15 total and 5 or 6 in conference and also looking more promising, and then in that context see that BC is competitive in every other sport these days.
Optimism.
So you agree that revenue sports are the true barometer of success, yet you call the 2015-16 season a successful year due to the accomplishment of non-revenue sports teams and the predicted improvement you expect out of the football and basketball teams in the 2016-17 season?? Righttttt.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I'm coming at this from the perspective of assuming significant improvement in 2016. I'm in the injuries-and-youth-excuse camp and I see 2015-2016 basketball and football as anomalies, not trends.
Let's revisit this after next season, after football wins 7 or 8 games and is looking really promising, basketball wins closer to 15 total and 5 or 6 in conference and also looking more promising, and then in that context see that BC is competitive in every other sport these days.
Optimism.
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
I'm going to stop there. I know Basketball and Football are the only sports that make ESPN, and I know that this was an epic-ly bad year for Basketball and Football. And I know that nobody wants to hear more excuses about youth and injuries (in both Basketball and Football). And I know that nobody wants to talk about how things will likely improve drastically in Football and will at least improve somewhat in Basketball. But, how about some credit where credit is due. Men's and Women's Soccer took big steps forward. Baseball and Softball both look to be on a major upswing. Hockey has never been better. And now we've finally seen a commitment to facilities.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
MrAwesomeII {l Wrote}:Has anyone heard that they are actively attempting to dismantle the Athletic Development office?? And if they are, isnt that an indication that they are trying to downgrade athletics in general???
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:MrAwesomeII {l Wrote}:Has anyone heard that they are actively attempting to dismantle the Athletic Development office?? And if they are, isnt that an indication that they are trying to downgrade athletics in general???
I know this is an alias, but they didn't just commit $200 million to athletics to dismantle it...
HJS {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Boston College 2015-2016 Academic Year Athletics Results:
Fall:
- Football: 3-9 (0-8).
- Men's Soccer: 11-8-2, 6th in ACC, ACC Tournament Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
- Women's Soccer: 11-7-2, 7th in ACC, NCAA Tournament Appearance
- Field Hockey: 13-9, ACC Semi-Finalist, NCAA Elite 8 Appearance
Spring:
- Basketball: 7-24 (0-18).
- W. Baskeball: 15-16 (2-14).
- Hockey: 24-5-5, Beanpot Champs, Regular Season Hockey East Co-Champs
- W. Hockey: 38-0, Beanpot Champs, Hockey East Champs, #1 Seed in NCAA Tournament.
- Baseball: 9-1, hottest start in years.
- Softball: 12-8, current 7 game winning streak.
2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
No. The revenue producing sports are the barometer of success, always have been and always will be.
Furthermore, without doing research, I don't believe that Bates hired Jerry York or the baseball coach(could be wrong). I have no clue about the soccer coaches and also don't care. So even if you call this a successful year, this doesn't have anything to do with Bates.
York (Hockey), Kelly (M.Soccer) and Foley (W.Soccer) were hired when Chet Gladchuck was the AD.
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:MrAwesomeII {l Wrote}:Has anyone heard that they are actively attempting to dismantle the Athletic Development office?? And if they are, isnt that an indication that they are trying to downgrade athletics in general???
I know this is an alias, but they didn't just commit $200 million to athletics to dismantle it...
that's just for the new student rec plex....
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}: 2015-2016 has been a good year for BC athletics, despite the terrible year for football and basketball.
The last sentence you wrote nearly made me launch my glass of gin at my iPad.
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:they couldn't dismantle the athletic department any further. There are about 10 people who work there. They have a boatload of student interns who are running around doing actual heavy lifting. They decreased the amount of full time employees significantly over the past 7 years or so. Cost cutting move. Good people were let go, or semi forced into retirement. They run the athletic department like it's a high school program. I have neither the time nor the energy to go into detail of how shaky this operation is. Try calling over there. Voice mail city. Coaches from other schools are literally bewildered at what goes on here. Calling to get, hotel recommendations, transport form the airport, practices times....not a shot you are getting a response. other teams coaches call our coaches to get what they need. Our coaches are constantly apologizing. It's ludicrous.
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:they couldn't dismantle the athletic department any further. There are about 10 people who work there. They have a boatload of student interns who are running around doing actual heavy lifting. They decreased the amount of full time employees significantly over the past 7 years or so. Cost cutting move. Good people were let go, or semi forced into retirement. They run the athletic department like it's a high school program. I have neither the time nor the energy to go into detail of how shaky this operation is. Try calling over there. Voice mail city. Coaches from other schools are literally bewildered at what goes on here. Calling to get, hotel recommendations, transport form the airport, practices times....not a shot you are getting a response. other teams coaches call our coaches to get what they need. Our coaches are constantly apologizing. It's ludicrous.
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