Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Or it is a shift in terms of how York is constructing his teams. The truth is that if you look at our rosters since the Coach Champion Era began the highly touted, high 1st round draft pick is an outlier in our program. Prior to Hanafin, I don't think we had another kid drafted in the Top-10 during the York era (Ceglarski had at least couple--Guerin and Leetch). At one point Reasoner was listed as a possible top 5 pick but if I am not mistaken he ended up being a mid 1st round pick. To the extent we have had 1st rounders, they tended to be either late 1st round picks--Pat Eaves comes to mind or guys in the high teens early 20s who were "projects"--raw with size--like Orpik, Boyle, Kreider, Kevin Hayes.
Looking at our National Championship teams, the only one that had more than 2 late 1st rounders on it was 2001--with Kobasew going 14 and Kolanos going 19 (with Orpik going 18). Of course, the two high drafted skill players--Kolanos and Kobasew also left after 2 and 1 years respectively and the team fell off a cliff the next season. After that, the 2008 and 2010 teams were dominated by undrafted and middle round players--the 08 team being notable for prison raping a Wisconsin team loaded with high draft picks--I think Nick Petrecki may have been a 1st round pick but if he was it was at the tail end of the round. The 12 team had two first rounders in Kreider and Hayes--but of the raw, big, late 1st round variety and a lot of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round talent, which is usually left alone by the NHL to develop.
HJS {l Wrote}:While what Dick wrote is accurate, I'd like to point out that if York took Eichel instead of that jabroni from Strong Island, he would have had another title to his name. Basically, that means I'm with teddy in the build a team like BC always has, but occasionally pepper it with superstar one-and-doners.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:While what Dick wrote is accurate, I'd like to point out that if York took Eichel instead of that jabroni from Strong Island, he would have had another title to his name. Basically, that means I'm with teddy in the build a team like BC always has, but occasionally pepper it with superstar one-and-doners.
That BC team last year was a mess. I don't believe last year's team wins a NC with Eichel. There was some weird chemistry issue which I could never put my finger on. Outside of Tuch and Hanifan, there also wasn't much other high end talent.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:It's not worth arguing but take Eichel off BU they're a .500 club, he was that good (and the numbers back that up). BC made the tournament without him, would they have won it all? Who knows with single elimination but they would've probably been the favorites.
Anyways, I wonder how much of a discussion this would've been if we had more than 2 upperclassmen who would suit up every night on a normal BC team (if you want to throw in Quinn Smith, sure). EPSTEIN POST. As has been said for a couple of years now, you can't completely whiff on 2 classes worth of forwards. Spare me the Johnny argument, he fell into the staffs laps in May and if Ulf JR didn't leave they wouldn't have $$ for him.
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
Breakaway: Quick word on second-round pick Jeremy Bracco leaving Boston College for the PHL Kitchener Rangers. Your thoughts on him developing in the OHL rather than college? What are the reasons, and were you guys involved in the decision?
Lamoriello: We weren't involved in that. That was a decision he made on his own. I've always said that college isn't for every player and junior isn't for every player. Nor is every player for college or is every player for junior. That's a decision they made. I was surprised to be perfectly honest. He was in an excellent program at Boston College, an outstanding coach (Jerry York), a program that put a lot of NHL players in here. I don't really know everything about it. I have spoken to the coach of Boston College, he was surprised at the decision just like I was.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:There certainly should be a talent line as to when you're willing to deal with the potential of anywhere between 0 - 1 year of a player. IMO Hanifin & Eichel would've been/ were worth it. Bracco & Milano are not. Hanifin is towards the edge of 'worth it' as well, there's no question Eichel would've been.
I will say, relaying the message that you're leaving to the coach who gave you $250k+ opportunity via text message says a lot about the kid.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:There certainly should be a talent line as to when you're willing to deal with the potential of anywhere between 0 - 1 year of a player. IMO Hanifin & Eichel would've been/ were worth it. Bracco & Milano are not. Hanifin is towards the edge of 'worth it' as well, there's no question Eichel would've been.
I will say, relaying the message that you're leaving to the coach who gave you $250k+ opportunity via text message says a lot about the kid.
Logitano {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:There certainly should be a talent line as to when you're willing to deal with the potential of anywhere between 0 - 1 year of a player. IMO Hanifin & Eichel would've been/ were worth it. Bracco & Milano are not. Hanifin is towards the edge of 'worth it' as well, there's no question Eichel would've been.
I will say, relaying the message that you're leaving to the coach who gave you $250k+ opportunity via text message says a lot about the kid.
Watched Hanifan play against the NYR last night so I guess he made the right choice. Tried to put Hayes through the boards. Did not realize he is only 18.
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:There certainly should be a talent line as to when you're willing to deal with the potential of anywhere between 0 - 1 year of a player. IMO Hanifin & Eichel would've been/ were worth it. Bracco & Milano are not. Hanifin is towards the edge of 'worth it' as well, there's no question Eichel would've been.
I will say, relaying the message that you're leaving to the coach who gave you $250k+ opportunity via text message says a lot about the kid.
Watched Hanifan play against the NYR last night so I guess he made the right choice. Tried to put Hayes through the boards. Did not realize he is only 18.
In the 2 Canes-NYR games I've watched, I feel like they are mirror images of each other. Carolina controls the puck, can't hit the broadside of the barn, and has awful goaltending. The Rags have plenty of snipers, can't keep the puck on their sticks, and Hank.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:can't recall many, if any, teams matching the high end talent bu has this year. 4 1st rounders & 4 second rounders i believe
this year's FR class is supposed to be a solid 4 year class
next year's should have some high end, eeli tolvanen might be a top 5 pick & jacob tortora is leading the u18 team in goals and second in points.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:can't recall many, if any, teams matching the high end talent bu has this year. 4 1st rounders & 4 second rounders i believe
this year's FR class is supposed to be a solid 4 year class
next year's should have some high end, eeli tolvanen might be a top 5 pick & jacob tortora is leading the u18 team in goals and second in points.
The kids BC has aren't bad at all, but it's not the clear NHL kids that I'm use to seeing.
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