commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
It's 100% mental. I saw him bang a 50 yard FG through during warmups. He has plenty of ability but mentally he is a trainwreck.
I like Day better than Brown since he fits the O to our personnel. I think we have to give him a chance with a QB that can throw and real WRs. Our WRs are an embarassment. The guy next to me asked why we had OLine players at WR.
Brown just runs his stupid scheme although historically BC has always had a average at best secondary. Day's offense does what BC can recruit to, which is running the ball. BC will never recruit elite players in the secondary. They are young, but Moore and Dawson did not look good at all yesterday.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:GreenvilleEagle {l Wrote}:Unfortunately, Mike Knoll is not a D1 kicker. Add in all the missed PATs and it is really in his head and seems unlikely he can be salvaged. Whoever you care to blame (Addazio or McGowan) it now needs to be fixed. Hopefully, they can recruit a D1 level kicker.
On a side note, it really hurts to see the guy, who should be kicking at BC, Michael Geiger now kicking at Michigan State.
Mike Knoll is 6 months removed from High School. Yesterday was only his 5th game. Prior to the OT miss, he was 13 of 14 on extra points (the OT miss was his second). On the season, he was 3-4 on FGs with a 40-yard make and a 36-yard miss. I'm not writing him off yet. Let me remind that our best ever kicker (Freese) missed a game-winning chipshot in the middle-schmiddle loss to Duke his freshman year.
But, we should bring in another kicker or a walk-on in case he is damaged (or gets injured).
Stop making excuses for Knoll, it sounds pathetic.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
kicking a ball through the uprights requires practice. if you don't practice enough, you may miss extra point kicks. if the special teams coach and/or kickers are working very hard, nobody is missing any extra points barring a blocked kick. therefore, kicking a ball through the uprights has a lot to do with laziness.
practice = perfect, or close to it. practice certainly does not equal 8 missed extra points from three kickers.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
kicking a ball through the uprights requires practice. if you don't practice enough, you may miss extra point kicks. if the special teams coach and/or kickers are working very hard, nobody is missing any extra points barring a blocked kick. therefore, kicking a ball through the uprights has a lot to do with laziness.
practice = perfect, or close to it. practice certainly does not equal 8 missed extra points from three kickers.
Missed PATs at this level are not an issue of not practicing enough.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
It's 100% mental. I saw him bang a 50 yard FG through during warmups. He has plenty of ability but mentally he is a trainwreck.
I like Day better than Brown since he fits the O to our personnel. I think we have to give him a chance with a QB that can throw and real WRs. Our WRs are an embarassment. The guy next to me asked why we had OLine players at WR.
Brown just runs his stupid scheme although historically BC has always had a average at best secondary. Day's offense does what BC can recruit to, which is running the ball. BC will never recruit elite players in the secondary. They are young, but Moore and Dawson did not look good at all yesterday.
Isn't (most) posters problem with brown yesterday that he brought out the f'ing spaz cushion once we went up two scores yesterday?
If so get your arguments straight. If not please explain what you think the brown scheme is and why it was a problem yesterday.
PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
I had some guy bitch at us for "yelling in his ear" when BC was on D, but he wasn't wearing colors of either school so not sure if he was a BC fan. Our section was overwhelmingly BC but there were a handful of PSU stragglers from Stubhub I guess, one of whom was sitting on the end of the aisle behind mine and took objection to my Sandusky comments as we were leaving. Me and him start jawing, my friend ushers me along, I get up a few steps and happen to look back just in time to see him sucker punch my friend. I jumped back down fists swinging and it all got broken up within seconds. Classy guy. Overall their fans are an embarrassment, I don't spend much time in Pennsylvania any more and the PSU fans I know personally mostly have some sense of perspective but holy shit a ton of these people just have no concept of shame.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
It's 100% mental. I saw him bang a 50 yard FG through during warmups. He has plenty of ability but mentally he is a trainwreck.
I like Day better than Brown since he fits the O to our personnel. I think we have to give him a chance with a QB that can throw and real WRs. Our WRs are an embarassment. The guy next to me asked why we had OLine players at WR.
Brown just runs his stupid scheme although historically BC has always had a average at best secondary. Day's offense does what BC can recruit to, which is running the ball. BC will never recruit elite players in the secondary. They are young, but Moore and Dawson did not look good at all yesterday.
Isn't (most) posters problem with brown yesterday that he brought out the f'ing spaz cushion once we went up two scores yesterday?
If so get your arguments straight. If not please explain what you think the brown scheme is and why it was a problem yesterday.
His scheme is blitz like a madman until you get ahead and then go conservative. They're both stupid and predictable.
Variety is the spice of life
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
I had some guy bitch at us for "yelling in his ear" when BC was on D, but he wasn't wearing colors of either school so not sure if he was a BC fan. Our section was overwhelmingly BC but there were a handful of PSU stragglers from Stubhub I guess, one of whom was sitting on the end of the aisle behind mine and took objection to my Sandusky comments as we were leaving. Me and him start jawing, my friend ushers me along, I get up a few steps and happen to look back just in time to see him sucker punch my friend. I jumped back down fists swinging and it all got broken up within seconds. Classy guy. Overall their fans are an embarrassment, I don't spend much time in Pennsylvania any more and the PSU fans I know personally mostly have some sense of perspective but holy shit a ton of these people just have no concept of shame.
This isn't a personal thing so please don't take it this way.
The PSU fans around me were fine aside from one or two jerks. Having said that, why are we dropping Sandusky comments? It's childish, classless and overall reflects really poorly on the fan base as a whole. It happened, it's done, but why a BC fan would ever find it in good taste to do that is beyond me. It reflects really poorly on the person and the fan base. One of the things I like about BC is we win and lose with class and dignity unlike so many awful fan bases, including Penn St.
Again, don't take it personally because I saw others doing it and found it equally as disgusting.
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
I had some guy bitch at us for "yelling in his ear" when BC was on D, but he wasn't wearing colors of either school so not sure if he was a BC fan. Our section was overwhelmingly BC but there were a handful of PSU stragglers from Stubhub I guess, one of whom was sitting on the end of the aisle behind mine and took objection to my Sandusky comments as we were leaving. Me and him start jawing, my friend ushers me along, I get up a few steps and happen to look back just in time to see him sucker punch my friend. I jumped back down fists swinging and it all got broken up within seconds. Classy guy. Overall their fans are an embarrassment, I don't spend much time in Pennsylvania any more and the PSU fans I know personally mostly have some sense of perspective but holy shit a ton of these people just have no concept of shame.
This isn't a personal thing so please don't take it this way.
The PSU fans around me were fine aside from one or two jerks. Having said that, why are we dropping Sandusky comments? It's childish, classless and overall reflects really poorly on the fan base as a whole. It happened, it's done, but why a BC fan would ever find it in good taste to do that is beyond me. It reflects really poorly on the person and the fan base. One of the things I like about BC is we win and lose with class and dignity unlike so many awful fan bases, including Penn St.
Again, don't take it personally because I saw others doing it and found it equally as disgusting.
And how long have you been a member here?
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:The conservative nature was infuriating.
Not even TOB did that shit. He always let it fly in bowl games. No one gives a shit if you win, just have fun and go for it.
PS, if we get another spread option QB, run some spread option dumbasses
Was Murphy injured at all? I ask because he never called his own number. He made a number of questionable zone read decisions. Would've liked to see them run an option at the DE. He is excellent but running at him may have slowed his backside pursuit. Their DTs beat the shit out of our interior OL on a number of plays.
Day needed to call keepers on the read option then. Fake read option, QB draw... Their DE's and olb's were not holding the edge.
They actually did just that in the 4th (I think the final drive). They faked the dive and had 36 wall-off the edge that sprung Murphy for a nice run.
Agree.... Shouldn't have taken that log to notice that, which I am sure u also agree with...
Edit: I agree that brown was horrible yesterday making the same mistake as he has done all year long... Do u agree with that same statement regarding day?
I'm not a Day fan. I hated the hire. I just think he's done a very good job adjusting his schemes to fit his talent (which is something I always respect coaches for doing (see Logan) and something Donnie has refused to do for 2 straight seasons). I also don't know what more he could do with a QB who can't throw and receivers who can't catch. Finally, I can't fault a strategy that tries to burn clock in order to lessen the negative impact Don Brown has on the game.
All that said, whoever does end-of-half/game clock management or who makes the decision to turtle-up to burn clock once we take the lead should be fired. However, I think that the person who really is making those calls was just extended to 2020.
So Addazio and brown should be fired but day has done a great job? I'm not trying to be snide, just trying to get your line of thinking straight rather than put words in your mouth...
HJS?
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
It's 100% mental. I saw him bang a 50 yard FG through during warmups. He has plenty of ability but mentally he is a trainwreck.
I like Day better than Brown since he fits the O to our personnel. I think we have to give him a chance with a QB that can throw and real WRs. Our WRs are an embarassment. The guy next to me asked why we had OLine players at WR.
Brown just runs his stupid scheme although historically BC has always had a average at best secondary. Day's offense does what BC can recruit to, which is running the ball. BC will never recruit elite players in the secondary. They are young, but Moore and Dawson did not look good at all yesterday.
Isn't (most) posters problem with brown yesterday that he brought out the f'ing spaz cushion once we went up two scores yesterday?
If so get your arguments straight. If not please explain what you think the brown scheme is and why it was a problem yesterday.
His scheme is blitz like a madman until you get ahead and then go conservative. They're both stupid and predictable.
Variety is the spice of life
Oh. This is even lazier than usual.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
I had some guy bitch at us for "yelling in his ear" when BC was on D, but he wasn't wearing colors of either school so not sure if he was a BC fan. Our section was overwhelmingly BC but there were a handful of PSU stragglers from Stubhub I guess, one of whom was sitting on the end of the aisle behind mine and took objection to my Sandusky comments as we were leaving. Me and him start jawing, my friend ushers me along, I get up a few steps and happen to look back just in time to see him sucker punch my friend. I jumped back down fists swinging and it all got broken up within seconds. Classy guy. Overall their fans are an embarrassment, I don't spend much time in Pennsylvania any more and the PSU fans I know personally mostly have some sense of perspective but holy shit a ton of these people just have no concept of shame.
This isn't a personal thing so please don't take it this way.
The PSU fans around me were fine aside from one or two jerks. Having said that, why are we dropping Sandusky comments? It's childish, classless and overall reflects really poorly on the fan base as a whole. It happened, it's done, but why a BC fan would ever find it in good taste to do that is beyond me. It reflects really poorly on the person and the fan base. One of the things I like about BC is we win and lose with class and dignity unlike so many awful fan bases, including Penn St.
Again, don't take it personally because I saw others doing it and found it equally as disgusting.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:Pretty sure the ability to kick a ball through the uprights has little to do with laziness.
kicking a ball through the uprights requires practice. if you don't practice enough, you may miss extra point kicks. if the special teams coach and/or kickers are working very hard, nobody is missing any extra points barring a blocked kick. therefore, kicking a ball through the uprights has a lot to do with laziness.
practice = perfect, or close to it. practice certainly does not equal 8 missed extra points from three kickers.
PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.Epstein, not sure where you were sitting but in the 200s the BC fans were great, didn't get down in front'd once.
Ped St & Maryland fans deserve each other in the B1G.
Incredibly shitty way to end a good season.
I had some guy bitch at us for "yelling in his ear" when BC was on D, but he wasn't wearing colors of either school so not sure if he was a BC fan. Our section was overwhelmingly BC but there were a handful of PSU stragglers from Stubhub I guess, one of whom was sitting on the end of the aisle behind mine and took objection to my Sandusky comments as we were leaving. Me and him start jawing, my friend ushers me along, I get up a few steps and happen to look back just in time to see him sucker punch my friend. I jumped back down fists swinging and it all got broken up within seconds. Classy guy. Overall their fans are an embarrassment, I don't spend much time in Pennsylvania any more and the PSU fans I know personally mostly have some sense of perspective but holy shit a ton of these people just have no concept of shame.
This isn't a personal thing so please don't take it this way.
The PSU fans around me were fine aside from one or two jerks. Having said that, why are we dropping Sandusky comments? It's childish, classless and overall reflects really poorly on the fan base as a whole. It happened, it's done, but why a BC fan would ever find it in good taste to do that is beyond me. It reflects really poorly on the person and the fan base. One of the things I like about BC is we win and lose with class and dignity unlike so many awful fan bases, including Penn St.
Again, don't take it personally because I saw others doing it and found it equally as disgusting.
I understand what you're getting at and it's certainly a valid stance to take however their fanbase is so reprehensible that I think there's value in reminding them of what their hero Paterno presided over. It would be one thing if they were humble and ashamed of what happened while still supporting their school and team going forward but they still act like it wasn't a big deal and they still view Paterno as some sort of god. And I was doubly angry after reading this garbage on the train on the way up. Maybe I take it more personally as a Pennsylvanian and someone who was a PSU fan until the day I decided to attend BC and still liked to see them do well from then until the Sandusky scandal broke. These fucksticks are among the most visible representatives of my state to the rest of the country, 100k mouth breathers descending on Happy Valley 7 Saturdays every fall to pay homage to a man who spent 20 years enabling a child rapist. It's fucking disgusting and until their fanbase owns up to it I don't mind continuing to remind them of it.
PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Chronologically, the tailgating was awesome. Showed up at 10 on the Harlem River and that place turned into Shea Field before Nazism struck. Started out mostly ped state fans but BC filled in, probably assumed it was a rule across America that you could only tailgate in a city for 3 hours before a game. Also again Bates, if you give people more than 3 hours to tailgate, they get in on time. How was the BC bar? Didn't go cause there was no way in hell I was dropping $40 for 2 drink tickets.
I remember looking at my phone at one point quite a while after we got there and thinking "holy shit, kickoff isn't even for another 2 hours". Great time.
branchinator {l Wrote}:Not only did Hackenberg throw to the outside all game but he practically stared at his WR pre-snap and still completed the passes at will. Any half decent DB has like 2 or 3 INTs yesterday.
HJS {l Wrote}:For obvious reasons, we take a very BC-centric view in this thread. However, if you remove the maroon-and-gold-colored-glasses, we were in position to win that game mainly because Ped State self-destructed on the most basic of execution (even more basic than an extra point)... the snap. There were potentially 21 more points Matt Ryan Hackenberg could have put up if they weren't putting the ball on the rug every other series. Hell... the worst offense we faced this year punted only once in the second half.
BTW... can someone explain to me what we were doing on that 72-yard bomb to Godwin? We rushed 5 (with a zone blitz). Had three covering very shallow (a yard or two off the LOS) and had the Safeties both cheating up (they were closer to the line of scrimmage than any of our CBs were the entire second half). We had the CBs in press coverage with no help behind. Essentially, we were in a short-yardage defense when it was really 3rd and 12 from their own 28. Hackenberg immediately recognized the situation... he hiked it... looked at Godwin the entire time... and was so giddy he almost threw it too soon (he got rid of the ball in less than 2-seconds... including a Brady-like pat/clutch of the ball before he threw it).
claver2010 {l Wrote}:siriuz, my issue w the cushion was throughout the game. Hackenberg reminded of the ND game from 2009 where Clausen just threw to the wide side of the field incessantly as our corners played 10 yards off
branchinator {l Wrote}:Not only did Hackenberg throw to the outside all game but he practically stared at his WR pre-snap and still completed the passes at will. Any half decent DB has like 2 or 3 INTs yesterday.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:Not only did Hackenberg throw to the outside all game but he practically stared at his WR pre-snap and still completed the passes at will. Any half decent DB has like 2 or 3 INTs yesterday.
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