claver2010 {l Wrote}:Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Re: on the Braxton Miller transfer rumor, I'm hearing it's between Oregon and LSU. Possibility of Oregon if Mariota goes #1.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Rich Rod doesn't want to cause a Solomon transfer, but could capitalize off of Fiesta Bowl with a one-year Braxton Miller insertion at QB.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Duke QB is graduating, so it seems hard to dismiss Duke in the Braxton Miller sweepstakes as well.
seems like he's just throwing schools out there so take fwiw
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Re: on the Braxton Miller transfer rumor, I'm hearing it's between Oregon and LSU. Possibility of Oregon if Mariota goes #1.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Rich Rod doesn't want to cause a Solomon transfer, but could capitalize off of Fiesta Bowl with a one-year Braxton Miller insertion at QB.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Duke QB is graduating, so it seems hard to dismiss Duke in the Braxton Miller sweepstakes as well.
seems like he's just throwing schools out there so take fwiw
Driskel is going to transfer too. He can't go to an SEC school. I am sure what Murphy did opened his eyes to BC as a possibility.
I didn't watch him at all, but isn't he more of a pocket guy? How do u think he would fit?
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Re: on the Braxton Miller transfer rumor, I'm hearing it's between Oregon and LSU. Possibility of Oregon if Mariota goes #1.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Rich Rod doesn't want to cause a Solomon transfer, but could capitalize off of Fiesta Bowl with a one-year Braxton Miller insertion at QB.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Duke QB is graduating, so it seems hard to dismiss Duke in the Braxton Miller sweepstakes as well.
seems like he's just throwing schools out there so take fwiw
Driskel is going to transfer too. He can't go to an SEC school. I am sure what Murphy did opened his eyes to BC as a possibility.
I didn't watch him at all, but isn't he more of a pocket guy? How do u think he would fit?
HJS {l Wrote}:jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Re: on the Braxton Miller transfer rumor, I'm hearing it's between Oregon and LSU. Possibility of Oregon if Mariota goes #1.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Rich Rod doesn't want to cause a Solomon transfer, but could capitalize off of Fiesta Bowl with a one-year Braxton Miller insertion at QB.
Jordan Schultz @Schultz_Report · 9h 9 hours ago
Duke QB is graduating, so it seems hard to dismiss Duke in the Braxton Miller sweepstakes as well.
seems like he's just throwing schools out there so take fwiw
Driskel is going to transfer too. He can't go to an SEC school. I am sure what Murphy did opened his eyes to BC as a possibility.
I didn't watch him at all, but isn't he more of a pocket guy? How do u think he would fit?
If we go hard after a player like Driskel (someone who we'd have to drastically re-engineer our offense for)... then there are alarms going off on Wade. If Driskel transfers (I say if because he seems well suited for McElwain), than I'd expect Duke to be a likely destination. He fits that system perfectly (and Cutcliffe has made a living coaching drop-back, immobile passers).
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
Does anyone who is dialed in with the program know what the staff actually thinks of Wade?
There was a Globe/Herald article recently which spoke glowingly about his preparation and mental game. I also can't imagine learning from a guy like Murphy hurt.
HJS {l Wrote}:b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
While I agree that the staff has to show they can develop a QB, we are operating without a net if we put all our eggs in the Wade basket. Injuries, grades, homesick, lack of ability... any of these can strike an unproven player. If any of those hit Wade, then you are forfeiting next season if you don't bring in some sort of transfer.
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Developing a QB is overrated. Addazio is 55 and the average tenure at BC is what five or six years. Just win. In fact developing a niche as a place where fifth years can go is not a bad thing. If Wade is upset, then beat out the new guy.
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Developing a QB is overrated. Addazio is 55 and the average tenure at BC is what five or six years. Just win. In fact developing a niche as a place where fifth years can go is not a bad thing. If Wade is upset, then beat out the new guy.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Developing a QB is overrated. Addazio is 55 and the average tenure at BC is what five or six years. Just win. In fact developing a niche as a place where fifth years can go is not a bad thing. If Wade is upset, then beat out the new guy.
Developing a QB is overrated, just win games?
Building an army is overrated too, just win the war.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Developing a QB is overrated. Addazio is 55 and the average tenure at BC is what five or six years. Just win. In fact developing a niche as a place where fifth years can go is not a bad thing. If Wade is upset, then beat out the new guy.
Developing a QB is overrated, just win games?
Building an army is overrated too, just win the war.
You understand my point.
If they think Wade can play, then play him. Sticking with him over a one year guy who is better is TOB thinking (see Wilson vs Glennon). If you find a young guy who can play, the older ones leave anyway. Just look at the QBs that left FSU when Winston won the job.
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
While I agree that the staff has to show they can develop a QB, we are operating without a net if we put all our eggs in the Wade basket. Injuries, grades, homesick, lack of ability... any of these can strike an unproven player. If any of those hit Wade, then you are forfeiting next season if you don't bring in some sort of transfer.
That makes sense, but then the other side of the coin is finding a guy who would be willing to accept the possibility of spending a 5th year at a new place sitting on the bench. I don't think we gave Murphy a promise of starting, but I'm sure that seeing our roster contained only true freshman and a guy that was switching positions helped alot. Also, didn't Daz have a relationship with the family beyond recruiting him to UF?
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
durkcal {l Wrote}:b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
I agree with this, with a few caveats.
If you project to the game plan next year, it will be about Hilliman and Outlow. If it is also about Wade, it will be about his running. Daz will want the best, deepest OL possible. So I expect up to 3 transfers on the OL.
I agree on the secondary. I thought Ty Meer Brown helped a lot in the latter part of the season. And UConn has a S we could use (and all UConn players should want to transfer to BC)
QB - I think using a transfer on a backup QB makes sense. Wade himself is inexperienced. If he gets hurt, our season is screwed. Why not bring in some backup (Driskel or others) that is not expected to start at their other school, but has experience? I think it stands a greater chance from a smaller program than UF.
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:durkcal {l Wrote}:b0mberMan {l Wrote}:I think at some point, we have to see the staff prove they can develop a QB. That's really going to matter in terms of bringing in people to play the position here. So if Wade's our guy, let's go ahead and take the lumps of developing a young starter on the job next year. He'll have been with the team for a year and a half, so learning the system, adjusting to the college schedule etc. shouldn't be a concern.
If we are bringing in transfers, I'd like to see us look at OL and secondary - two places we need depth/experience. Though I'm not too worried about the whole "the entire OL is graduating" narrative as the rest of the country probably thinks we should be. The staff built a solid and productive OL two years in a row out of guys that couldn't move Army's undersized DL out of the way, so I trust they know what they are doing.
I agree with this, with a few caveats.
If you project to the game plan next year, it will be about Hilliman and Outlow. If it is also about Wade, it will be about his running. Daz will want the best, deepest OL possible. So I expect up to 3 transfers on the OL.
I agree on the secondary. I thought Ty Meer Brown helped a lot in the latter part of the season. And UConn has a S we could use (and all UConn players should want to transfer to BC)
QB - I think using a transfer on a backup QB makes sense. Wade himself is inexperienced. If he gets hurt, our season is screwed. Why not bring in some backup (Driskel or others) that is not expected to start at their other school, but has experience? I think it stands a greater chance from a smaller program than UF.
Driskel just doesnt fit with what Addazio is trying to do. I honestly dont see it happening (even with the Florida connections). Its a shame they didnt redshirt Wade this year. I understand Murphy had health issues in the past and was a major question mark, but for Wade to waste a redshirt so he could take ~10 snaps in 2 meaningless games is silly. If Murphy went down, the season was a wrap. Just play Flutie or Bordner.
The QB situation will hopefully begin to solidify itself next year. With Smith and Robinson coming in, hopefully one can redshirt and start to provide space at the position (they also bring a skill set that is transferable to other positions should it come to that), and one can play behind Wade. The positive aspect of this type of offense, is Wade wont be relied upon to make a ton of throws, hopefully making the transition to starter a smooth one. Personally, I would rather bite the bullet and start Wade next season. Hes been in the system for a year and a half and doesnt have much less in game experience than Murphy had before this season.
The positions where transfers make sense are on the OL (Tripp Thurman from Florida makes a ton of sense as he had BC a finalist, is local/from Delaware, and is rumored to leave Florida) and the secondary where BC just needs athletic bodies to combat pass heavy offenses like the one that burned then Saturday. The kid from Connecticut who left the program, Jefferson Ashiru, actually had reported offers from a few D1 schools including Duke, Mississippi, Mississippi State (something that is rare for most of the players on the Connecticut roster) but is a LB and a position where there may not be much room. Hes also from Georgia, so could expect him to end up somewhere closer to home.
As was mentioned earlier (possibly in another thread) Savon Huggins just announced he would transfer from Rutgers. Normally, I wouldn't think twice about someone like that coming to BC, but there is a major SPP presence at BC right now and a year in this run heavy offense can drastically improve his draft status. The problem obviously becomes, what do you do with a major logjam of talent at the position. Would have to think Willis is gone if Huggins comes in. Do you redshirt Outlow ? What happens with Richard Wilson ? With a deliberate, control the clock type offense, there just arent enough snaps.
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:someone very close to the program told me that the staff really loves two young players: Wade and Johnson.
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:hinghameagle {l Wrote}:someone very close to the program told me that the staff really loves two young players: Wade and Johnson.
They LOVE Wade.
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:someone very close to the program told me that the staff really loves two young players: Wade and Johnson.
HJS {l Wrote}:If they think everything is 100% a go with Wade next year, I would still like to see them bring in a grad student who could serve as half-coach/half-emergence-back-up-QB. If Wade gets injured or hasn't developed or runs into some unexpected grade problems, you need someone on the roster who can play the position. Right now those kids are in HS (note: Robinson is enrolling in a week).
JConman {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:If they think everything is 100% a go with Wade next year, I would still like to see them bring in a grad student who could serve as half-coach/half-emergence-back-up-QB. If Wade gets injured or hasn't developed or runs into some unexpected grade problems, you need someone on the roster who can play the position. Right now those kids are in HS (note: Robinson is enrolling in a week).
I take it you believe Flutie is not an option at qb?
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:hinghameagle {l Wrote}:someone very close to the program told me that the staff really loves two young players: Wade and Johnson.
John Johnson?
JConman {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:If they think everything is 100% a go with Wade next year, I would still like to see them bring in a grad student who could serve as half-coach/half-emergence-back-up-QB. If Wade gets injured or hasn't developed or runs into some unexpected grade problems, you need someone on the roster who can play the position. Right now those kids are in HS (note: Robinson is enrolling in a week).
I take it you believe Flutie is not an option at qb?
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