joeyfenn {l Wrote}:with these voters
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Letting Suliaman drop 27 on you probably just about ends the ACC ROY talk.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Letting Suliaman drop 27 on you probably just about ends the ACC ROY talk.
I mean it shouldn't, since he dropped 20 on Sulaimon the last time around and the rest of the season did happen, but it probably does.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Letting Suliaman drop 27 on you probably just about ends the ACC ROY talk.
I mean it shouldn't, since he dropped 20 on Sulaimon the last time around and the rest of the season did happen, but it probably does.
I'm not completely sold that Hanlan with an A is the ROY, but yes, it is unfair that one game should make the difference. But such is life, his team stinks.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Letting Suliaman drop 27 on you probably just about ends the ACC ROY talk.
I mean it shouldn't, since he dropped 20 on Sulaimon the last time around and the rest of the season did happen, but it probably does.
I'm not completely sold that Hanlan with an A is the ROY, but yes, it is unfair that one game should make the difference. But such is life, his team stinks.
Who else is if not Hanlan? Warren? because I thought his team stinks too? also he is very inconsistent.
Being honest, Sulaimon wouldn't be ridiculous but I think the advantage of the ten million one on one matchups and open looks he gets a game should be more of a negative for him than Hanlan's extra minutes for being on a team with no depth but being the focus of defenses.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Letting Suliaman drop 27 on you probably just about ends the ACC ROY talk.
I mean it shouldn't, since he dropped 20 on Sulaimon the last time around and the rest of the season did happen, but it probably does.
I'm not completely sold that Hanlan with an A is the ROY, but yes, it is unfair that one game should make the difference. But such is life, his team stinks.
Who else is if not Hanlan? Warren? because I thought his team stinks too? also he is very inconsistent.
Being honest, Sulaimon wouldn't be ridiculous but I think the advantage of the ten million one on one matchups and open looks he gets a game should be more of a negative for him than Hanlan's extra minutes for being on a team with no depth but being the focus of defenses.
You gave that about one sentence more thought than the voters will.
There's no doubt that Hanlan with an A is one of the top 2-3 candidates. I just find the indignant position of everyone here, as if he should be a foregone conclusion, absurd.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He was never the clear front runner in the minds of anyone outside of this board. And the vote won't be based on stats - it's a lot easier to post stats when you are one of two guards on the roster and play 39 minutes a game.
Nothing against him, and he is in the discussion for ROY, but the idea that he is the front runner is idiotic.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He was never the clear front runner in the minds of anyone outside of this board. And the vote won't be based on stats - it's a lot easier to post stats when you are one of two guards on the roster and play 39 minutes a game.
Nothing against him, and he is in the discussion for ROY, but the idea that he is the front runner is idiotic.
It's not idiotic. "Clear" front runner is too much, but front runner prior to Duke is not idiotic.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He was never the clear front runner in the minds of anyone outside of this board. And the vote won't be based on stats - it's a lot easier to post stats when you are one of two guards on the roster and play 39 minutes a game.
Nothing against him, and he is in the discussion for ROY, but the idea that he is the front runner is idiotic.
It's not idiotic. "Clear" front runner is too much, but front runner prior to Duke is not idiotic.
Even ignoring the obvious biases against the northerners and players on shitty teams, he was never the front runner. Considering those two things, I'd put him 3 or 4 among the contenders. Unless something strange happens, Suliamon is and has been the front runner.
commavegarage {l Wrote}:Sulaimon is gonna win it...and its not going to be very close.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:My only point is that the stats argument isn't going to be real relevant and is skewed slightly by 7 more minutes a game. Like I said, he's the front runner the same way Mike Trout was a lock to win MVP last season according to the stats nerds on here.
73CAV {l Wrote}:I think it is probably worth remembering that last year Caulton Tudor (a North Carolina sports columnist) did not include Mike Scott on his First Team All ACC ballot. Of course, enough voters did include him so that he came in second, however Tudor's vote prevented Scott from winning the ACC POY award. Tudor's ploy insured that it would go to UNC's Tyler Zeller. And Charlottesville is a lot closer, in oh so many ways, to Tobacco Road than Boston.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I think we can officially disqualify Hanlan based on the last two games
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