bceagles24 {l Wrote}:Boyle was a surprise? He never could've committed to UF even if he wanted to. Never was too worried about Montgomery. That said I don't think Rouse has anything to do with Davis think they are both takes. My gut still says BC but who knows we will find out tomorrow I'm just ready to get to 2014 things look good early.
Shaddix {l Wrote}:bceagles24 {l Wrote}:Boyle was a surprise? He never could've committed to UF even if he wanted to. Never was too worried about Montgomery. That said I don't think Rouse has anything to do with Davis think they are both takes. My gut still says BC but who knows we will find out tomorrow I'm just ready to get to 2014 things look good early.
Boyle was definitely a surprise. Actually if I remember correctly, he had just come back from a visit from UF before committing to BC. He supposedly had a committable offer.
HJS {l Wrote}:This is awesome... abetween our two recruiting guys. My money is on 24.
Can we now just get back to the fact that we hired Daziani for his recruiting prowess, yet he is likely losing a RB to 4-8 Memphis team coached by something named Justin Fuente (this on the heels of losing QBs to UConn and Toledo).
bceagles24 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:This is awesome... abetween our two recruiting guys. My money is on 24.
Can we now just get back to the fact that we hired Daziani for his recruiting prowess, yet he is likely losing a RB to 4-8 Memphis team coached by something named Justin Fuente (this on the heels of losing QBs to UConn and Toledo).
Looks like opinion is split on Davis. Knight of the Tampa Bay Times is saying BC while Chris Nee is saying Memphis but its a tough call.
bceagles24 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:This is awesome... abetween our two recruiting guys. My money is on 24.
Can we now just get back to the fact that we hired Daziani for his recruiting prowess, yet he is likely losing a RB to 4-8 Memphis team coached by something named Justin Fuente (this on the heels of losing QBs to UConn and Toledo).
Looks like opinion is split on Davis. Knight of the Tampa Bay Times is saying BC while Chris Nee is saying Memphis but its a tough call.
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Addazio will be the best recruiter in my BC lifetime.
NotoriousOrangeI think Addazio will turn out to be a really strong hire and in many ways the Anti-Spaz :
* Great recruiter, who feels recruiting success is dictated by the head coach's actions, and the buck stops with him.[/quote]
[quote="NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:My original post was from 14 months ago and every interim post I made since has been the same. 2 months ago I made a post that he and BB were close. He is a great recruiter and a strong head coach who I think will excel in this job!
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:BCEagle05 {l Wrote}:The problem is not enthusiasm. The problem is over the top, not even remotely believable enthusiasm. That's what I saw, and it did absolutely nothing for me. It stunk of Bates telling him "Steve, you're gonna have to sell this really hard" and then that's what we got. Like I said, our best hope at this point is that the intelligent kids we're recruiting are hopelessly dumb and fall for this junk. I'm sorry if that pisses on your parade, but talking a lot and actually being able to accomplish it are two separate things. I'd rather have seen someone who looked serious about winning rather than desperately trying to check off every box on everyone's list.
He has been the National recruiter of the year and a great recruiter everywhere he has been.
Eagle05 do you think it makes more sense to take 20 years of recruiting Dwight Freeney, Aaron Hernandez, Mike Pouncey, Will Hill Sharif Floyd, and 75 others like them and as proof of his recruiting prowess? Or your analysis that only dumb kids would listen?
Let's give it a rest a bit when talking about the recruits he brought to Florida. Has their recruiting dried up since? I am NOT a recruiting weirdo and will not do some Florida star analysis pre-Daz, Daz, and post Daz.
How about his recruiting for Syracuse & ND? He was just as good there. How about the fact that both of his full classes at Temple were rated at the top of the MAC? When you see the same thing for 20 years it is probably not luck.
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Gents, the future will prove me right or wrong. I stand by my opinion and think BC will climb out of the morass that Spaz left us in
climb to 6-6 or climb to acccg?
Will take 4 years but back to the ACCCG
then he was not the right hire... the right hire could go 7-6 next year and then BCS game the following year
Haven't you and most posters (including me) been down on the last year of Jags/first 1/2 year of Spaz recruiting and all subsequent years of Spaz recruiting?
How would you analyze the current talent level on the roster?
the depth is not there but there is still plenty of front line talent to win 6 games in a shit conference and get to some shit bowl game (especially with a senior QB).
My question was more about your reference to right coach to BCS in year 2
i think the right coach could do it in the ACC. he would need to recruit his ass off but not impossible. would also have to give some reps to the backup QB to prepare for the following year. we would get blown out in the BCS game but thats irrelevant. my point is the ACC is not good and we are not that far behind.
i personally think the talent is not as bad as most make it out to be. the starters are serviceable for the most part. the backups is where the talent gap is noticeable. you could scheme around a lot of the weaknesses... the secondary, OL, DL. probably employ a lot of delayed LB blitzing to make up the lack of pass rush by the DL and play cushion in the secondary to prevent giving up the big play.
we get smart, tough, players willing to work. the right coach could lead them to big things quickly. i think if we had gotten Diaco he could have flipped a lot of the Mass talent back to BC and maybe some others in NJ/OH.
I think Addazio is more likely toflip recruits than Diaco (but I think highly of Diaco as well) - but it still doesn't lead to BCS in year 2 for either of them[/size][/b]
HJS {l Wrote}:N.O. - At least admit you are disappointed in his first 2 months. You, more than anyone, have been pimping this hire and talking up Daziani's recruiting. you have to admit that he thus far hasn't lived up to your expectations.NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Addazio will be the best recruiter in my BC lifetime.NotoriousOrangeI think Addazio will turn out to be a really strong hire and in many ways the Anti-Spaz :
* Great recruiter, who feels recruiting success is dictated by the head coach's actions, and the buck stops with him.
[quote="NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:My original post was from 14 months ago and every interim post I made since has been the same. 2 months ago I made a post that he and BB were close. He is a great recruiter and a strong head coach who I think will excel in this job!
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:BCEagle05 {l Wrote}:The problem is not enthusiasm. The problem is over the top, not even remotely believable enthusiasm. That's what I saw, and it did absolutely nothing for me. It stunk of Bates telling him "Steve, you're gonna have to sell this really hard" and then that's what we got. Like I said, our best hope at this point is that the intelligent kids we're recruiting are hopelessly dumb and fall for this junk. I'm sorry if that pisses on your parade, but talking a lot and actually being able to accomplish it are two separate things. I'd rather have seen someone who looked serious about winning rather than desperately trying to check off every box on everyone's list.
He has been the National recruiter of the year and a great recruiter everywhere he has been.
Eagle05 do you think it makes more sense to take 20 years of recruiting Dwight Freeney, Aaron Hernandez, Mike Pouncey, Will Hill Sharif Floyd, and 75 others like them and as proof of his recruiting prowess? Or your analysis that only dumb kids would listen?
Let's give it a rest a bit when talking about the recruits he brought to Florida. Has their recruiting dried up since? I am NOT a recruiting weirdo and will not do some Florida star analysis pre-Daz, Daz, and post Daz.
How about his recruiting for Syracuse & ND? He was just as good there. How about the fact that both of his full classes at Temple were rated at the top of the MAC? When you see the same thing for 20 years it is probably not luck.
[/quote]NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Gents, the future will prove me right or wrong. I stand by my opinion and think BC will climb out of the morass that Spaz left us in
climb to 6-6 or climb to acccg?
Will take 4 years but back to the ACCCG
then he was not the right hire... the right hire could go 7-6 next year and then BCS game the following year
Haven't you and most posters (including me) been down on the last year of Jags/first 1/2 year of Spaz recruiting and all subsequent years of Spaz recruiting?
How would you analyze the current talent level on the roster?
the depth is not there but there is still plenty of front line talent to win 6 games in a shit conference and get to some shit bowl game (especially with a senior QB).
My question was more about your reference to right coach to BCS in year 2
i think the right coach could do it in the ACC. he would need to recruit his ass off but not impossible. would also have to give some reps to the backup QB to prepare for the following year. we would get blown out in the BCS game but thats irrelevant. my point is the ACC is not good and we are not that far behind.
i personally think the talent is not as bad as most make it out to be. the starters are serviceable for the most part. the backups is where the talent gap is noticeable. you could scheme around a lot of the weaknesses... the secondary, OL, DL. probably employ a lot of delayed LB blitzing to make up the lack of pass rush by the DL and play cushion in the secondary to prevent giving up the big play.
we get smart, tough, players willing to work. the right coach could lead them to big things quickly. i think if we had gotten Diaco he could have flipped a lot of the Mass talent back to BC and maybe some others in NJ/OH.
I think Addazio is more likely toflip recruits than Diaco (but I think highly of Diaco as well) - but it still doesn't lead to BCS in year 2 for either of them[/size][/b]
GT BoSox {l Wrote}:#BCEagles waiting on Robert Davis, have their backup option .... DE Garcia down to #ISU #Navy maybe #BC
https://twitter.com/RowlandRIVALS
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:GT BoSox {l Wrote}:#BCEagles waiting on Robert Davis, have their backup option .... DE Garcia down to #ISU #Navy maybe #BC
https://twitter.com/RowlandRIVALS
i think garcia never got an offer and committed to iowa state
HJS {l Wrote}:N.O. - At least admit you are disappointed in his first 2 months. You, more than anyone, have been pimping this hire and talking up Daziani's recruiting. you have to admit that he thus far hasn't lived up to your expectations.NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Addazio will be the best recruiter in my BC lifetime.NotoriousOrangeI think Addazio will turn out to be a really strong hire and in many ways the Anti-Spaz :
* Great recruiter, who feels recruiting success is dictated by the head coach's actions, and the buck stops with him.
[quote="NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:My original post was from 14 months ago and every interim post I made since has been the same. 2 months ago I made a post that he and BB were close. He is a great recruiter and a strong head coach who I think will excel in this job!
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:BCEagle05 {l Wrote}:The problem is not enthusiasm. The problem is over the top, not even remotely believable enthusiasm. That's what I saw, and it did absolutely nothing for me. It stunk of Bates telling him "Steve, you're gonna have to sell this really hard" and then that's what we got. Like I said, our best hope at this point is that the intelligent kids we're recruiting are hopelessly dumb and fall for this junk. I'm sorry if that pisses on your parade, but talking a lot and actually being able to accomplish it are two separate things. I'd rather have seen someone who looked serious about winning rather than desperately trying to check off every box on everyone's list.
He has been the National recruiter of the year and a great recruiter everywhere he has been.
Eagle05 do you think it makes more sense to take 20 years of recruiting Dwight Freeney, Aaron Hernandez, Mike Pouncey, Will Hill Sharif Floyd, and 75 others like them and as proof of his recruiting prowess? Or your analysis that only dumb kids would listen?
Let's give it a rest a bit when talking about the recruits he brought to Florida. Has their recruiting dried up since? I am NOT a recruiting weirdo and will not do some Florida star analysis pre-Daz, Daz, and post Daz.
How about his recruiting for Syracuse & ND? He was just as good there. How about the fact that both of his full classes at Temple were rated at the top of the MAC? When you see the same thing for 20 years it is probably not luck.
[/quote]NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:Gents, the future will prove me right or wrong. I stand by my opinion and think BC will climb out of the morass that Spaz left us in
climb to 6-6 or climb to acccg?
Will take 4 years but back to the ACCCG
then he was not the right hire... the right hire could go 7-6 next year and then BCS game the following year
Haven't you and most posters (including me) been down on the last year of Jags/first 1/2 year of Spaz recruiting and all subsequent years of Spaz recruiting?
How would you analyze the current talent level on the roster?
the depth is not there but there is still plenty of front line talent to win 6 games in a shit conference and get to some shit bowl game (especially with a senior QB).
My question was more about your reference to right coach to BCS in year 2
i think the right coach could do it in the ACC. he would need to recruit his ass off but not impossible. would also have to give some reps to the backup QB to prepare for the following year. we would get blown out in the BCS game but thats irrelevant. my point is the ACC is not good and we are not that far behind.
i personally think the talent is not as bad as most make it out to be. the starters are serviceable for the most part. the backups is where the talent gap is noticeable. you could scheme around a lot of the weaknesses... the secondary, OL, DL. probably employ a lot of delayed LB blitzing to make up the lack of pass rush by the DL and play cushion in the secondary to prevent giving up the big play.
we get smart, tough, players willing to work. the right coach could lead them to big things quickly. i think if we had gotten Diaco he could have flipped a lot of the Mass talent back to BC and maybe some others in NJ/OH.
I think Addazio is more likely toflip recruits than Diaco (but I think highly of Diaco as well) - but it still doesn't lead to BCS in year 2 for either of them[/size][/b]
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:I answered your question so please answer one for me. What do you get from portraying/twisting/or making up -- every bit of BC info into the most negative light possible.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:I answered your question so please answer one for me. What do you get from portraying/twisting/or making up -- every bit of BC info into the most negative light possible.
the greatest benefit of all...
if you aim low, you'll never be disappointed
NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:I answered your question so please answer one for me. What do you get from portraying/twisting/or making up -- every bit of BC info into the most negative light possible.
the greatest benefit of all...
if you aim low, you'll never be disappointed
IB is this your opinion or did you get it directly by peering into HJS's thought process?
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:NotoriousOrange {l Wrote}:I answered your question so please answer one for me. What do you get from portraying/twisting/or making up -- every bit of BC info into the most negative light possible.
the greatest benefit of all...
if you aim low, you'll never be disappointed
IB is this your opinion or did you get it directly by peering into HJS's thought process?
opinion only
peering into hjs's thought process is a place i have no desire to be
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:opinion only
peering into hjs's thought process is a place i have no desire to be
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The people that have never known an HJS before amuse me. He's just a pre-2004 Red Sox fan - if bad shit can happen he wants to get ahead of the curve and predict it will. Then if it happens, he's a genius, if not people won't notice because BC is winning.
Any Sox fan old enough to remember the years prior to 2004 remembers their Pops calling with Renteria at the plate and saying "trust me. they will figure out a way to lose this."
BCdee {l Wrote}:
Does the guy on the left have a BC hat in front of him? Who is that?
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:BCdee {l Wrote}:
Does the guy on the left have a BC hat in front of him? Who is that?
Robert Davis. There are two BC hats. He could very well be messing with his twitter followers though. Who knows.
BCdee {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:BCdee {l Wrote}:
Does the guy on the left have a BC hat in front of him? Who is that?
Robert Davis. There are two BC hats. He could very well be messing with his twitter followers though. Who knows.
I thought Robert Davis was the guy on the right with the 4 hats.
BCdee {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:BCdee {l Wrote}:
Does the guy on the left have a BC hat in front of him? Who is that?
Robert Davis. There are two BC hats. He could very well be messing with his twitter followers though. Who knows.
I thought Robert Davis was the guy on the right with the 4 hats.
HJS {l Wrote}:BCdee {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:BCdee {l Wrote}:
Does the guy on the left have a BC hat in front of him? Who is that?
Robert Davis. There are two BC hats. He could very well be messing with his twitter followers though. Who knows.
I thought Robert Davis was the guy on the right with the 4 hats.
I think that's the case as well. I have no idea who has the old school hat on the left. Could it be something like Bethune Cookman?
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