BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:how are you all so sure that Heckmann is outbound? I hope not.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:how are you all so sure that Heckmann is outbound? I hope not.
I think for most of us, we are just hoping its true.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
Sound like Rakim Sanders weaknesses.
wildcat81 {l Wrote}:Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
Sound like Rakim Sanders weaknesses.
Kaleb Joseph’s development has taken a distinctly linear path over the last two years.
In the summer of 2011, the Cushing Academy guard was a player with notable upside, but one who was still trying to put the pieces together.
That started to happen on a more consistent basis last fall and the scholarship offers started coming in as a result, with Boston College, Tennessee, Maryland, TCU, Fordham, St. Bonaventure, Delaware and New Hampshire all having reached out by this time last year.
Joseph’s confidence seemed to rise in correlation to his recruitment, and by last spring, he had established himself as one of the premier 2014 guards in the northeast. With more schools continuing to come in throughout the course of his grassroots season with the Mass Rivals, Joseph’s game and stock continued to steadily expand throughout the summer.
Eight games into his junior season and Joseph is now making his latest jump, this time by becoming more of a true point guard.
Kaleb Joseph
Point guard
2014
Uncommitted: List
Pos Rk Stars Grade Hometown
NR
Nashua, NH
“He’s taking stuff personally now,” Cushing Academy head coach Barry Connors said. “He’s determined to prove that he’s the best point guard in New England and the thing that’s impressing me is that he’s starting to figure out what that truly means in terms of making the right play or making the right pass, and not always swinging for the fences.”
Joseph’s numbers support that claim as he’s averaging 16 points per game, but doing so while taking four less shots per night than he did a year ago. He’s also averaging eight assists against only 1.5 turnovers per game, and has only committed more than two turnovers in one of Cushing’s first eight contests.
“Last year I definitely thought I needed to put up big numbers,” Joseph admitted, “but this year Coach Connors has been teaching me about making the right play every time down the floor, and when you do that you let your talent speak for itself.”
Joseph’s evolution at the point has Cushing off to a perfect 8-0 record, including a pair of big wins against Tilton School and previously undefeated St. Andrew’s School this past weekend. Connors said Joseph was especially impressive against Tilton, which features senior swingman Wayne Selden.
“He had 20 points and eight assists,” Connors said, “but his twenty points were on two dunks, five mid-range pull-ups, a three, and some free-throws.”
Joseph’s recruitment has continued to grow alongside his production.
This week alone, Kansas State and Providence have both been in to see him, while Connors said he’s also heard from Ohio State and Georgetown.
In total, Joseph now claims offers from Boston College, Maryland, Tennessee, Providence, West Virginia, Seton Hall and Kansas State among others with additional schools like Ohio State, Georgetown, Marquette and Villanova now starting to come in.
“I think I’m definitely capable of playing the point guard at the highest level,” he said. “I want to prove I belong with the best of the point guards in the 2014 class and consistency is the only way to do that.”
Brablc {l Wrote}:Update from ESPN on Kaleb Joseph, sounds like he's blowing up:Kaleb Joseph’s development has taken a distinctly linear path over the last two years.
In the summer of 2011, the Cushing Academy guard was a player with notable upside, but one who was still trying to put the pieces together.
That started to happen on a more consistent basis last fall and the scholarship offers started coming in as a result, with Boston College, Tennessee, Maryland, TCU, Fordham, St. Bonaventure, Delaware and New Hampshire all having reached out by this time last year.
Joseph’s confidence seemed to rise in correlation to his recruitment, and by last spring, he had established himself as one of the premier 2014 guards in the northeast. With more schools continuing to come in throughout the course of his grassroots season with the Mass Rivals, Joseph’s game and stock continued to steadily expand throughout the summer.
Eight games into his junior season and Joseph is now making his latest jump, this time by becoming more of a true point guard.
Kaleb Joseph
Point guard
2014
Uncommitted: List
Pos Rk Stars Grade Hometown
NR
Nashua, NH
“He’s taking stuff personally now,” Cushing Academy head coach Barry Connors said. “He’s determined to prove that he’s the best point guard in New England and the thing that’s impressing me is that he’s starting to figure out what that truly means in terms of making the right play or making the right pass, and not always swinging for the fences.”
Joseph’s numbers support that claim as he’s averaging 16 points per game, but doing so while taking four less shots per night than he did a year ago. He’s also averaging eight assists against only 1.5 turnovers per game, and has only committed more than two turnovers in one of Cushing’s first eight contests.
“Last year I definitely thought I needed to put up big numbers,” Joseph admitted, “but this year Coach Connors has been teaching me about making the right play every time down the floor, and when you do that you let your talent speak for itself.”
Joseph’s evolution at the point has Cushing off to a perfect 8-0 record, including a pair of big wins against Tilton School and previously undefeated St. Andrew’s School this past weekend. Connors said Joseph was especially impressive against Tilton, which features senior swingman Wayne Selden.
“He had 20 points and eight assists,” Connors said, “but his twenty points were on two dunks, five mid-range pull-ups, a three, and some free-throws.”
Joseph’s recruitment has continued to grow alongside his production.
This week alone, Kansas State and Providence have both been in to see him, while Connors said he’s also heard from Ohio State and Georgetown.
In total, Joseph now claims offers from Boston College, Maryland, Tennessee, Providence, West Virginia, Seton Hall and Kansas State among others with additional schools like Ohio State, Georgetown, Marquette and Villanova now starting to come in.
“I think I’m definitely capable of playing the point guard at the highest level,” he said. “I want to prove I belong with the best of the point guards in the 2014 class and consistency is the only way to do that.”
Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
footer20 {l Wrote}:Just a note here. Roschon Prince from LB Poly (Ryan Anderson's high school) is going to USC. He's a four star prospect but I don't think he got the respect he deserved until recently. 6-6, averaging 20 ppg and 7 rpg. We were all impressed with his motor and athleticism when Poly was televised two years ago. I'm just surprised the Don never made a run at him.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
He seems to be getting the whole "one man team" thing out of his head. He made some good passes and played good D tonight. Really the first game where I can say that Heckmann didn't have to score to be useful.
bcbasketball20 {l Wrote}:this is what i think the rotation will be for next years team: starters and backups. assuming we land kelly and jorgenson and heckmann stays.
clifford, caudill
anderson, kelly, odio
dragicevich, heckmann, owens
rahon, jackson
hanlan, jorgensonBCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
He seems to be getting the whole "one man team" thing out of his head. He made some good passes and played good D tonight. Really the first game where I can say that Heckmann didn't have to score to be useful.
Primetime {l Wrote}:bcbasketball20 {l Wrote}:this is what i think the rotation will be for next years team: starters and backups. assuming we land kelly and jorgenson and heckmann stays.
clifford, caudill
anderson, kelly, odio
dragicevich, heckmann, owens
rahon, jackson
hanlan, jorgensonBCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Brablc {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I don't want Heckmann to leave.
I'm with that. He's one of our better 3 point shooters and defenders. He does need to really work on his ball-handling though.
He seems to be getting the whole "one man team" thing out of his head. He made some good passes and played good D tonight. Really the first game where I can say that Heckmann didn't have to score to be useful.
Without being a dick: what you listed is our full (scholarship) roster, not an actual rotation (if that was even your intention). Nobody goes 12 players deep. For one thing, I would be SHOCKED if we land both Kelly and Jorgenson. I'd say 60-70% chance Kelly comes and 30-40% chance Jorgenson comes - I'd be interested in any updates on these two, btw. Something about Jorgenson makes me not trust him, and he seems really wishy-washy. I bet he goes Creighton. As for Kelly, I think having Owens will help get him here.
Additionally, there are only so many minutes to go around. Exhibit A, Daniels saw he was getting pushed out this fall by two superior players, and he hit the road. It would appear that Dragicevich and Heckmann would be competing for minutes, regardless of how similar/dissimilar their games are. Now if you're Heckmann, do you jump to a German pro league based off this season's performance getting 25 mpg, or do you wait until after next year when you're probably getting 15-20 mpg. I just don't see his incentive to stay. No matter how much people hate on Heckmann here, I don't see his loss as a positive. That being said, it will certainly be mitigated by Dragicevich, and I don't think we'll miss him much (Humphrey who???)
Another interesting battle will be Kelly vs. Odio. Don't want to get into a Lenny vs. Carl debate, but despite not seeing Kelly play I feel confident that he will be more physical and provide more of what this team is missing. Odio made great strides over this past year, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get passed over by a younger, hungrier player.
Projected Roster:
Rotation: Anderson, Hanlan, Rahon, Dragicevich, Clifford, Jackson, Kelly, Owens
Bench: Odio, Rubin, Donahue, Caudill
I love this team and how far it's come - there's so much potential. It sucks that losses to NCST and WF cancel out the perceived improvement, but it is definitely there. The roster above will absolutely compete for an NCAA bid next year, and if Jorgenson comes, they will surely get it.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:There is some talk to suggest that Heck might not be back, but that talk has come from nobody from any actual association with either the media, Steve Donahue, or Patrick Heckmann. In other words... it was said by a few on this message board. So maybe we shouldn't be leaving him out of our 'next year' projections?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Heckmann is marginally better than Tyler Roche.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:I've heard from people in the program Heckmann has openly discussed leaving.
He isn't going to play a whole lot next year anyway. I'd rather give those minutes to Owens and Dragevich.
Heckmann is marginally better than Tyler Roche.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Dragevich is a terrible rebounder who plays no defense....He's also the best shooter this side of Brady Heslip
claver2010 {l Wrote}::thehjs
*i respek you and your Jackson crusade, he has really picked his offensive game up of late (48% from 3 last 6 games)
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Dragevich is a terrible rebounder who plays no defense....He's also the best shooter this side of Brady Heslip
so worse than Lonnie Jackson?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}::thehjs
*i respek you and your Jackson crusade, he has really picked his offensive game up of late (48% from 3 last 6 games)
There's going to be a regression to the mean, which you're seeing now. Great shooter and I love his energy. He just can't really dribble or play defense or pass. At 20 minutes a night great. At 38 minutes a night not so much.
Jorgensen fixes this whole situation, so Id recommend Donahue get him to commit. I'd love our guards with him in the fold.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}::thehjs
*i respek you and your Jackson crusade, he has really picked his offensive game up of late (48% from 3 last 6 games)
There's going to be a regression to the mean, which you're seeing now. Great shooter and I love his energy. He just can't really dribble or play defense or pass. At 20 minutes a night great. At 38 minutes a night not so much.
Jorgensen fixes this whole situation, so Id recommend Donahue get him to commit. I'd love our guards with him in the fold.
he has .3 less assists than Hanlan per game. He's not just a shooter. His defense is not good but it is much better than it was last year.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}::thehjs
*i respek you and your Jackson crusade, he has really picked his offensive game up of late (48% from 3 last 6 games)
There's going to be a regression to the mean, which you're seeing now. Great shooter and I love his energy. He just can't really dribble or play defense or pass. At 20 minutes a night great. At 38 minutes a night not so much.
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