DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:So who is the 3rd?
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DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:So who is the 3rd?
JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:Boston College @BCEagles247
Another #BCEagles coaching target mentioned by name by two different recruits - PSU's Bill O'Brien.
JesuitIvy {l Wrote}: Half measures.
Walsh601 {l Wrote}:We can't win a bidding war against Tenn, so I hope his wife prefers Boston.
Wikipedia {l Wrote}:Spaziani is known as a wordsmith often answering interview questions with unintelligible murmurs or seemingly invented words. He has been honored by his peers as the most underqualified coach ever assigned to a head coaching role at a Division 1 school
BearTerritory {l Wrote}:Names most talked about at Cal
Peterson-pipe dream, probably-but he is a Northern California guy and a product of the UC system so not totally off the rails and his father still lives here.
Hue Jackson, whose candidacy seems to be mostly supported by Hue Jackson
McIntyre of San Jose State
Ron Rivera-Cal guy
Roman, although the knock here-interestingly-is that he is too cerebral a la Tedford ver 1.0 without the fire in the belly-see Jackson, Hue. Vic Fangio of the 49ers and Stanford also has his supporters.
Gary Anderson, though he's never been out of Utah.
Charlie Strong, he was actually a finalist when we hired Tedford along with Marvin Lewis but I think geography and an SEC job will lure him
NorthEndEagle {l Wrote}:cat hair pee fire
b0mberMan {l Wrote}:BearTerritory {l Wrote}:Names most talked about at Cal
Peterson-pipe dream, probably-but he is a Northern California guy and a product of the UC system so not totally off the rails and his father still lives here.
Hue Jackson, whose candidacy seems to be mostly supported by Hue Jackson
McIntyre of San Jose State
Ron Rivera-Cal guy
Roman, although the knock here-interestingly-is that he is too cerebral a la Tedford ver 1.0 without the fire in the belly-see Jackson, Hue. Vic Fangio of the 49ers and Stanford also has his supporters.
Gary Anderson, though he's never been out of Utah.
Charlie Strong, he was actually a finalist when we hired Tedford along with Marvin Lewis but I think geography and an SEC job will lure him
The Cal internets are blowing up that they are hiring Fresno St.'s HC Tim DeRuyter
Endless Mike {l Wrote}:I'm going to address the 800 lb gorilla in the room (ellipses)
http://bringjimtresseltobc.blogspot.com/
HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Mod34b {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Thanks. I assume you meant this one: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg
Impressive career and evident passion for football. 5-8 255 lbs -- i am laughing trying to imagine that?? Also seems to pass the character test with flying colors.
Might be a good choice, but I am leary of #2s becoming #1s -- as we know sometimes the weight of responsibility can be crushing. I'd prefer someone already successful as a HC in FBS or even FCS.
PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
Fresno State isn't competition for us, nor is SJSU/NIU/Kent State/any other mid-major school whose coach might get hired by another BCS program before we fill our vacancy. If Golden goes to Tennessee then Miami would potentially be in the market for the same type of guys as us (same deal if someone can get Franklin from Vandy), but otherwise this isn't a worry.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Thanks. I assume you meant this one: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg
Impressive career and evident passion for football. 5-8 255 lbs -- i am laughing trying to imagine that?? Also seems to pass the character test with flying colors.
Might be a good choice, but I am leary of #2s becoming #1s -- as we know sometimes the weight of responsibility can be crushing. I'd prefer someone already successful as a HC in FBS or even FCS.
mike leach, chris petersen, gary patterson, charlie strong, les miles, mike gundy, bob stoops are counterexamples.
HJS {l Wrote}:PhillyandBCEagles {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
Fresno State isn't competition for us, nor is SJSU/NIU/Kent State/any other mid-major school whose coach might get hired by another BCS program before we fill our vacancy. If Golden goes to Tennessee then Miami would potentially be in the market for the same type of guys as us (same deal if someone can get Franklin from Vandy), but otherwise this isn't a worry.
Cincy will be competing with us. Louisville too (if Auburn or NCS or Tenn grab Strong). A trickle-down always results when these big programs poach another head coach.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Thanks. I assume you meant this one: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg
Impressive career and evident passion for football. 5-8 255 lbs -- i am laughing trying to imagine that?? Also seems to pass the character test with flying colors.
Might be a good choice, but I am leary of #2s becoming #1s -- as we know sometimes the weight of responsibility can be crushing. I'd prefer someone already successful as a HC in FBS or even FCS.
mike leach, chris petersen, gary patterson, charlie strong, les miles, mike gundy, bob stoops are counterexamples.
HJS {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Thanks. I assume you meant this one: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg
Impressive career and evident passion for football. 5-8 255 lbs -- i am laughing trying to imagine that?? Also seems to pass the character test with flying colors.
Might be a good choice, but I am leary of #2s becoming #1s -- as we know sometimes the weight of responsibility can be crushing. I'd prefer someone already successful as a HC in FBS or even FCS.
mike leach, chris petersen, gary patterson, charlie strong, les miles, mike gundy, bob stoops are counterexamples.
It's somewhat silly, really. Every great coach was never a head coach before he got his first job. You also can point out as many head coaches who sucked at a higher level as you can assistants who failed as head coaches.
Here's the thing half names prominently mentioned would be meh at best. Some would be all time greats. Which is which... I don't know. But, I think you can find that out through the interview process. For BC, I think it is critical to get someone who (a) is a very hard worker and (b) can recruit. I don't think the coach's current title should be a determining factor.
BTW... I will point out that while Spaz was a career assistant who got his first head coaching job at BC, it is important to note that he was TWENTY EFFING YEARS OLDER than all the similarly situated candidates that we are looking at. I'd also point out that before Spazoo, we hired Coughlin, Henning, TOB and Jags. 3 of them were first time head coaches. The only one with head coaching experience (which included TWO stints as an NFL head coach) turned out to be the worst... by far.
Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:Mod34b {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm happy about that if it holds. Colorado, however, is still a risk to take Roman. I believe they were also considering DeRuyter. I have a feeling that BC will be the last of current vacancies to make their hire. I just hope that we are able to hire someone before then next wave of coaching searches start up (San Jose will have to replace DeRuyter and so will any head coach that gets plucked by NCS, Colo, Tenn, Ark and Auburn).
If you don't mind me asking (and I am sure this has been discussed elsewhere) why are you so high on Roman? He has never been a HC (always a #2) and 15 of his 17 years coaching are in the NFL? His 2 years at Stanford were with an incredible team already recruited/groomed/coached by others. What suggests Roman can a) recruit and b) deal with/Coach 18-22 year old college kids as a HC and c) select/hire/manage/fire the right assistants. Does not seem -- on the surface -- like the right choice for BC
Is there something more than getting a sliver of Jim Harbaugh's reflected glory and/or the publicity bump the hire might bring?
Read the article that HJS linked a page or so back on this thread. It might change your mind.
Thanks. I assume you meant this one: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20 ... ?p=1&tc=pg
Impressive career and evident passion for football. 5-8 255 lbs -- i am laughing trying to imagine that?? Also seems to pass the character test with flying colors.
Might be a good choice, but I am leary of #2s becoming #1s -- as we know sometimes the weight of responsibility can be crushing. I'd prefer someone already successful as a HC in FBS or even FCS.
mike leach, chris petersen, gary patterson, charlie strong, les miles, mike gundy, bob stoops are counterexamples.
It's somewhat silly, really. Every great coach was never a head coach before he got his first job. You also can point out as many head coaches who sucked at a higher level as you can assistants who failed as head coaches.
Here's the thing half names prominently mentioned would be meh at best. Some would be all time greats. Which is which... I don't know. But, I think you can find that out through the interview process. For BC, I think it is critical to get someone who (a) is a very hard worker and (b) can recruit. I don't think the coach's current title should be a determining factor.
BTW... I will point out that while Spaz was a career assistant who got his first head coaching job at BC, it is important to note that he was TWENTY EFFING YEARS OLDER than all the similarly situated candidates that we are looking at. I'd also point out that before Spazoo, we hired Coughlin, Henning, TOB and Jags. 3 of them were first time head coaches. The only one with head coaching experience (which included TWO stints as an NFL head coach) turned out to be the worst... by far.
Thanks for the reply. Roman might be good, but he is a much riskier choice then others because he does not have solid FBS experience. He could be "so BC" - a semi diamond in the rough who loves to overcome low expectations. A passionate hard worker.
Being a hard worker can be great, but is he working too hard? Other coaches call him "grinder." - a back-handed compliment for sure. Is he a grinder who as risen to his pre-Peter-Principle Level?
Who knows. In Bates We Must Trust for sorting through all the intangibles
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