BIGDUKE6 {l Wrote}:Should the new HC honor all scholarship commitments given to Spaz or make his own evaluations and revoke the offer if he sees fit ? Thoughts ?
HJS {l Wrote}:BIGDUKE6 {l Wrote}:Should the new HC honor all scholarship commitments given to Spaz or make his own evaluations and revoke the offer if he sees fit ? Thoughts ?
We've talked about it here already. My opinion (which I believe is in line with the board consensus) is that the new coach should be free to take or not take any of the verbals that Spazoo offered. That said, it wuld be beneficial for the next coach to keep the top half of the class for nothing more than maintaining a certain head count appropriate to run the program.
31southst {l Wrote}:I think they should be honored but a coach is free to be honest, like Jags was with Kenny Plue (you can come if you want but you don't fit our system and we doubt you'd play).
HJS {l Wrote}:It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the coach we hire has a few kids he has recruited to his current school want to follow him. It is also not beyond the realm of possibility that there are kids he was still recruiting for his current employer or kids he really liked but his current employer decided not to offer, who he could convince to join him at BC. Further, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that there are some kids who really liked BC but opted to verbal elsewhere because of the Spazoo situation (which would obviously be resolved once the new coach arrives).
Bottom line for me is giving the new coach whatever leeway he needs. If he wants to lay waste to the entire 2013 class, so be it. If he wants to cut half of it because he has better prospects lined up, all the better. If he wants to keep everyone as a PR move (knowing it will be difficult to find better players), fine. The important thing to me is that it be in the sole discretion of the next coach. He is the one who has to live with the ramifications.
31southst {l Wrote}:I think they should be honored but a coach is free to be honest, like Jags was with Kenny Plue (you can come if you want but you don't fit our system and we doubt you'd play).
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:There was something circulating on the twitter machine saying that Uncle Dave is going to talk things over with his family about coming back for a 5th year. I love that that idea is even being entertained by . Why not. scholarships grow on trees
HJS {l Wrote}:I can't believe people here are entertaining the idea that the next coach would have to keep these recruits if he doesn't want to. Should he be forced to keep Doug Martin too? I mean, it's hard to believe that the next coach is going to be able to land an OC who has already been a MAC head coach.
You hire the right guy... and then you get the eff out of the way. If he shitcans the class and pisses people off, that on him. But, if he is constrained 3 years from now in recruiting by only being able to land 19 instead of 25... that's on the pollyannas who want BC to do the right thing. Eff the right thing... I want to win!!!
HJS {l Wrote}:I can't believe people here are entertaining the idea that the next coach would have to keep these recruits if he doesn't want to. Should he be forced to keep Doug Martin too? I mean, it's hard to believe that the next coach is going to be able to land an OC who has already been a MAC head coach.
You hire the right guy... and then you get the eff out of the way. If he shitcans the class and pisses people off, that on him. But, if he is constrained 3 years from now in recruiting by only being able to land 19 instead of 25... that's on the pollyannas who want BC to do the right thing. Eff the right thing... I want to win!!!
HJS {l Wrote}:I can't believe people here are entertaining the idea that the next coach would have to keep these recruits if he doesn't want to. Should he be forced to keep Doug Martin too? I mean, it's hard to believe that the next coach is going to be able to land an OC who has already been a MAC head coach.
You hire the right guy... and then you get the eff out of the way. If he shitcans the class and pisses people off, that on him. But, if he is constrained 3 years from now in recruiting by only being able to land 19 instead of 25... that's on the pollyannas who want BC to do the right thing. Eff the right thing... I want to win!!!
31southst {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I can't believe people here are entertaining the idea that the next coach would have to keep these recruits if he doesn't want to. Should he be forced to keep Doug Martin too? I mean, it's hard to believe that the next coach is going to be able to land an OC who has already been a MAC head coach.
You hire the right guy... and then you get the eff out of the way. If he shitcans the class and pisses people off, that on him. But, if he is constrained 3 years from now in recruiting by only being able to land 19 instead of 25... that's on the pollyannas who want BC to do the right thing. Eff the right thing... I want to win!!!
As usual, you have a somewhat valid point but go off the deep end. Are you really equating honoring one of 85 scholarships to pulling a Gene and forcing an OC onto someone?
More to the point, honoring scholarships isn't just about doing the right thing. It's also about not burning bridges with coaches over a few marginal guys (which you acknowledge but immeditately dismiss). A lot of our commits come from pipeline areas and I don't think it's particularly smart for the first thing a new coach to do is piss off people who we might want to be in with in the future. Given the natural turnover the comes from a coaching change, there is no way honoring these scholarships will cost of the 6 scholarships you use as an example.
rktbrkr {l Wrote}:UD hasn't had any medical year so how does he qualify for a 5th year?
Wikipedia {l Wrote}:Spaziani is known as a wordsmith often answering interview questions with unintelligible murmurs or seemingly invented words. He has been honored by his peers as the most underqualified coach ever assigned to a head coaching role at a Division 1 school
hinghameagle {l Wrote}:I think BC should honor the scholarships. It reflects poorly on the school to do otherwise and you end up making enemies with certain HS coaches that will come back and burn you.
rktbrkr {l Wrote}:If there is any contemplation of offering Uncle Dave a 5th year scholarship that kinda says Suntrup is a total bust right? UD hasn't had any medical year so how does he qualify for a 5th year? However UD is probably the second best QB on the team, I don't think Bordner can pass on the college level and if the OL can't block for RBs I don't think a wildcat type QB will cut it. This team is low as whale shit in talent, it's going to take 5 years to climb back to mediocrity
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:Suntrup has gotten lost in the fold as spaz has tried to salvage the sinking ship. It is totally selfish and short sighted, but thats just Good Guy Spaz's nature.
How can you suggest hes a bust ? He threw 3 passes in the spring game and has not had an opportunity to play since. The good news is he is only a rs freshman so he still has 3 years to grow. FWIW, he was ranked in the same area as Chase (better actually in relation to the rest of the country).
HJS {l Wrote}:GDF made both Spazoo and Jagoo honor the previous verbals.
HJS {l Wrote}:not unlike keeping guys like Spaz, McGovern and Siravo.
HJS {l Wrote}:The concerns about burning bridges and reputational risk are not nuanced.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:GDF made both Spazoo and Jagoo honor the previous verbals.
No he didn't.HJS {l Wrote}:not unlike keeping guys like Spaz, McGovern and Siravo.
GDF actually did this, which is why the two are not a good comparison.HJS {l Wrote}:The concerns about burning bridges and reputational risk are not nuanced.
I challenge you to create a non ridiculous example of how this risk reward would payoff.
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