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Options without Harris

Postby HerbBrooks on Wed May 02, 2012 8:53 am

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Re: Options without Harris

Postby Baltimore Eagle on Wed May 02, 2012 9:39 am

I agree with this. I never really expected Montel to come back fully healthy this year even outside of all the rumors of him leaving. I think that, like most people, the thing that pisses me off about his departure is the lack of class with which BC handled it and the fact that we've seen this movie before.

We will be fine at RB on the field.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby pick6pedro on Wed May 02, 2012 9:55 am

Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


When the ball is being handed to Sean Sylvia you may think differently.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby twballgame9 on Wed May 02, 2012 10:01 am

pick6pedro wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


When the ball is being handed to Sean Sylvia you may think differently.


I had this same frightening thought. Is Two-time Jerome Ledbetter Memorial Spring Game MVP Javorski still on the team?
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby pick6pedro on Wed May 02, 2012 10:09 am

twballgame9 wrote:
pick6pedro wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


When the ball is being handed to Sean Sylvia you may think differently.


I had this same frightening thought. Is Two-time Jerome Ledbetter Memorial Spring Game MVP Javorski still on the team?


Unfortunately no as he would have been my go-to guy in this situation.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby rktbrkr on Wed May 02, 2012 10:17 am

I didn't know Alfred E Newman did college football analysis.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby GreenvilleEagle on Wed May 02, 2012 10:22 am

Baltimore Eagle wrote:I agree with this. I never really expected Montel to come back fully healthy this year even outside of all the rumors of him leaving. I think that, like most people, the thing that pisses me off about his departure is the lack of class with which BC handled it and the fact that we've seen this movie before.

We will be fine at RB on the field.


What pisses me off the most is Montel did not receive quality medical care for his injury. We are talking about a meniscus injury and not a tear of the ACL or MCL. Diane English is a fucking hack and at this point I am comfortable saying that his rehab was botched too.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby EagleManiac66 on Wed May 02, 2012 10:38 am

GreenvilleEagle wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:I agree with this. I never really expected Montel to come back fully healthy this year even outside of all the rumors of him leaving. I think that, like most people, the thing that pisses me off about his departure is the lack of class with which BC handled it and the fact that we've seen this movie before.

We will be fine at RB on the field.


What pisses me off the most is Montel did not receive quality medical care for his injury. We are talking about a meniscus injury and not a tear of the ACL or MCL. Diane English is a fucking hack and at this point I am comfortable saying that his rehab was botched too.


While I certainly share the concerns already expressed by many regarding the dismissal announcement itself and the manner in which it was handled, it seems rather extreme to state that quality medical attention was not provided. If anyone has concrete evidence of this, it would be grounds for a major malpractice suit against the medical staff as well as suit against the BC Athletic Dept. if they can be shown to have knowingly contributed to such malpractice in either the treatment or rehab. Has Montel ever made any statements that his care was totally botched?
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby twballgame9 on Wed May 02, 2012 10:45 am

EagleManiac66 wrote:
GreenvilleEagle wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:I agree with this. I never really expected Montel to come back fully healthy this year even outside of all the rumors of him leaving. I think that, like most people, the thing that pisses me off about his departure is the lack of class with which BC handled it and the fact that we've seen this movie before.

We will be fine at RB on the field.


What pisses me off the most is Montel did not receive quality medical care for his injury. We are talking about a meniscus injury and not a tear of the ACL or MCL. Diane English is a fucking hack and at this point I am comfortable saying that his rehab was botched too.


While I certainly share the concerns already expressed by many regarding the dismissal announcement itself and the manner in which it was handled, it seems rather extreme to state that quality medical attention was not provided. If anyone has concrete evidence of this, it would be grounds for a major malpractice suit against the medical staff as well as suit against the BC Athletic Dept. if they can be shown to have knowingly contributed to such malpractice in either the treatment or rehab. Has Montel ever made any statements that his care was totally botched?


No one has concrete evidence here. What we have is an athlete taking 18 months to return from a meniscus tear. Tommy John surgery doesn't have that kind of recovery time. For pitchers.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby claver2010 on Wed May 02, 2012 10:50 am

Or the fact that he had to have a "surprise follow up surgery" 8 months after the original


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Re: Options without Harris

Postby BCdee on Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am

I can't believe she is still working at BC.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby bcguy11 on Wed May 02, 2012 11:05 am

New here but been reading a while. I was an athlete at BC with some injuries that required surgery. The doctors BC employs are the biggest joke I've ever seen. I had to get an MRI done at St.E's on my shoulder and then meet with the doctor a week later. He told me he never had my MRI and when I gave it to him, he looked at the ones I had in high school 4 years earlier and made a surgery recommendation without ever looking at the new MRI's. Even my athletic trainer at BC said it was the biggest joke he'd ever seen. Shockingly I chose not to consult him or have him do my surgery again. Figured it was better to pay out of pocket rather than have BC pay for it than have that guy do my surgery. Only saw English was and she really wasn't much better. I'm shocked that with all the great hospitals in Boston that BC still uses that shithole St. E's.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby claver2010 on Wed May 02, 2012 11:09 am

bcguy11 wrote:New here but been reading a while. I was an athlete at BC with some injuries that required surgery. The doctors BC employs are the biggest joke I've ever seen. I had to get an MRI done at St.E's on my shoulder and then meet with the doctor a week later. He told me he never had my MRI and when I gave it to him, he looked at the ones I had in high school 4 years earlier and made a surgery recommendation without ever looking at the new MRI's. Even my athletic trainer at BC said it was the biggest joke he'd ever seen. Shockingly I chose not to consult him or have him do my surgery again. Figured it was better to pay out of pocket rather than have BC pay for it than have that guy do my surgery. Only saw English was and she really wasn't much better. I'm shocked that with all the great hospitals in Boston that BC still uses that shithole St. E's.


Welcome aboard, your disdain of what BC athletics has turned into will be appreciated.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby BCdee on Wed May 02, 2012 11:13 am

bcguy11 wrote:New here but been reading a while. I was an athlete at BC with some injuries that required surgery. The doctors BC employs are the biggest joke I've ever seen. I had to get an MRI done at St.E's on my shoulder and then meet with the doctor a week later. He told me he never had my MRI and when I gave it to him, he looked at the ones I had in high school 4 years earlier and made a surgery recommendation without ever looking at the new MRI's. Even my athletic trainer at BC said it was the biggest joke he'd ever seen. Shockingly I chose not to consult him or have him do my surgery again. Figured it was better to pay out of pocket rather than have BC pay for it than have that guy do my surgery. Only saw English was and she really wasn't much better. I'm shocked that with all the great hospitals in Boston that BC still uses that shithole St. E's.


Welcome! I have a similar story. I played with an injured knee my entire junior season. Dr. English looked at it and told me it was a "pinched fat pad"...so I continued playing on it even though I KNEW there was something majorly wrong. I was in constant pain and the knee was constantly swollen. I tried to play in the spring season, too, and finally just shut it down. Never did the doctors at school ever mention that I get a MRI. After the school year, I went home and saw an excellent doctor who used to be the team doctor for the Detriot Lions. Turns out, surgery was necessary. What a joke - at least I had a great doctor do the surgery and not Dr. English.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby Endless Mike on Wed May 02, 2012 11:24 am

Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


Define "fine".
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby mjago410 on Wed May 02, 2012 11:41 am

Physically, Finch is the largest of the three, and he is a bruising type who is hard to bring down above the waist.


Quite interesting that the 5'10" 207 lb Rolandan Finch is in fact larger than the 6'0" 222 lb Andre Williams.

The biggest knock on Finch is that he is not the best at taking care of the football. Finch has been known to fumble, and in the BC spring game, he did so twice.


Nevertheless, I'm glad Spaz took the opportunity to take a dump on Finch once more in his article.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby cvilleagle on Wed May 02, 2012 12:14 pm

Endless Mike wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


Define "fine".


fine - (adj.) less shitty than our cornerbacks
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby claver2010 on Wed May 02, 2012 12:17 pm

cvilleagle wrote:
Endless Mike wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


Define "fine".


fine - (adj.) less shitty than our cornerbacks


not fine - (adj.) shittier than our S
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby McDeere's Bombardier on Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:31 pm

pick6pedro wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
pick6pedro wrote:
Baltimore Eagle wrote:We will be fine at RB on the field.


When the ball is being handed to Sean Sylvia you may think differently.


I had this same frightening thought. Is Two-time Jerome Ledbetter Memorial Spring Game MVP Javorski still on the team?


Unfortunately no as he would have been my go-to guy in this situation.


Apparently Javorski has resurfaced on the 2012 roster...
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby h2o on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:10 pm

bcguy11 wrote:I'm shocked that with all the great hospitals in Boston that BC still uses that shithole St. E's.


Probably because it was owned by the Archdiocese of Boston. Caritas was purchased and renamed Steward by Cerberus Capital a few years ago with the stipulation to keep the Catholic teachings in place for three years. That runs out in about a year, give or take. Then you'll most likely see Steward gradually start to offer services they can't right now - birth control, etc. I expect BC will look to one of the many better hospitals in the area when that happens.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby flyingelvii on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:00 pm

Some kid I play hockey with got a puck to the face (wear cages in men's league kids...it's not worth it to go cageless) and, since he lives by St. E's, went to the ER to get the requisite surgery and whatnot. Broke his orbital bone, cheek bone and jaw. Apparently he woke up and they had forgotten to wire his jaw. I was not very surprised.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby innocentbystander on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:42 pm

h2o wrote:
bcguy11 wrote:I'm shocked that with all the great hospitals in Boston that BC still uses that shithole St. E's.


Probably because it was owned by the Archdiocese of Boston. Caritas was purchased and renamed Steward by Cerberus Capital a few years ago with the stipulation to keep the Catholic teachings in place for three years. That runs out in about a year, give or take. Then you'll most likely see Steward gradually start to offer services they can't right now - birth control, etc. I expect BC will look to one of the many better hospitals in the area when that happens.


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Re: Options without Harris

Postby The Knife of Asia on Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

I tore my ACL at BC my junior year, went to St. E's, they told me physical therapy would solve the issue... Got a second opinion (non quack doctor) after the physical therapist seemed confused at the diagnosis and he immediately put me in a cast for 5 months.

I wasn't an athlete, so its a moot point other than the fact that St Es is like a 3rd world country's MASH unit...
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:31 pm

Not sure if that's what you mean by the "I'm not an athlete" but you don't need your ACL if you're never going to do any strenuous athletic activity or anything of the ilk. Your knee will be unstable but it doesn't really matter so long as you're not making any hard cuts or anything that you would do in a sport, which is why many old people that tear theirs opt for rehab instead of surgery since their most strenuous task is walking down the stairs to tell those damn kids to get off their lawn. Seeing as how you were a junior when it happened, I agree with your assertion that surgery was the correct course of action.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby NotoriousOrange on Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:15 pm

flyingelvii wrote: Not sure if that's what you mean by the "I'm not an athlete" but you don't need your ACL if you're never going to do any strenuous athletic activity or anything of the ilk. Your knee will be unstable but it doesn't really matter so long as you're not making any hard cuts or anything that you would do in a sport, which is why many old people that tear theirs opt for rehab instead of surgery since their most strenuous task is walking down the stairs to tell those damn kids to get off their lawn. Seeing as how you were a junior when it happened, I agree with your assertion that surgery was the correct course of action.


If he was a senior would you recommend a different course of action?
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby NotoriousOrange on Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:28 pm

I also want to go on record with my wishes for Montel to lead the nation in rushing this year
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby innocentbystander on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:30 pm

NotoriousOrange wrote:I also want to go on record with my wishes for Montel to lead the nation in rushing this year


I second that.
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby PhillyandBCEagles on Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:09 am

NotoriousOrange wrote:I also want to go on record with my wishes for Montel to lead the nation in rushing this year


I think we all went on record for that as soon as it was announced that he was being "kicked off the team".
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Re: Options without Harris

Postby The Knife of Asia on Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:04 am

flyingelvii wrote:Not sure if that's what you mean by the "I'm not an athlete" but you don't need your ACL if you're never going to do any strenuous athletic activity or anything of the ilk. Your knee will be unstable but it doesn't really matter so long as you're not making any hard cuts or anything that you would do in a sport, which is why many old people that tear theirs opt for rehab instead of surgery since their most strenuous task is walking down the stairs to tell those damn kids to get off their lawn. Seeing as how you were a junior when it happened, I agree with your assertion that surgery was the correct course of action.

I should have clarified that I wasn't a D1 student athlete, it was pickup basketball at the plex... In my case, initial surgery wasn't required due to the nature of the tear. But the point was the St E's led me in the complete opposite direction that i should have gone initially.
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