RedBaron67 wrote:Shaddix wrote:twballgame9 wrote:Shaddix wrote:twballgame9 wrote:MattTheEagle wrote:Shaddix wrote:RedBaron67 wrote:That pretty well exhausts the possibilities for 2012; hopefully, they'll concentrate now on 2013, because we badly need to do well in that class.
Yea, I mean Smyth is a "jersey kid" and Willard did play him while he was at Iona. Can't say I'm surprised.
If we can land Dingba in 2013, I would be ecstatic. I don't like how the Don puts effort into recruiting guys, then gives up on them towards the end of the recruitment....like learn to compete against other high majors for recruits dude. I have a strong feeling that he is going to be wasting his time with BJ Johnson
This is not true. He only stops recruiting them if the recruit tells the BC staff that he is no longer interested or if there are some serious academic hurdles that would prevent the player's ability to enroll. There are several targets that he recruited hard to the end but unfortunately chose different schools. The Don's problem isn't effort, he recruits players hard and I love it (he also did quite well with transfers into 2010 with Humphrey and Taylor who were both sought after by relatively large programs). Instead, Donahue doesn't have connections like several recruiters at the big schools have and nobody on BC's staff has much experience at all with recruiting. This is the problem, not effort. Donahue works his ass off, unfortunately it takes more than that to recruit well. I agree though, he needs to find a way to start landing some big names (though recruiting hasn't been all that bad, just not particularly good for an ACC program). I would also be ecstatic if he landed Dingba.
I also feel confident enough with our current Roster and the 2012 players coming in that we are going to make some noise in a couple of years which will ultimately help recruiting.
I am going to ignore this round of Shaddix ridiculousness, and just comment on this. I think it is right. It is the contacts that he needs to develop at this level, and that is what Jones provided. That said, if he works hard enough for long enough and can be successful enough to stay in the job, the contacts will come with time and effort. Basketball recruiting is an inbred society of HS and AAU coaches, and once you are in, you are in until you screw one of them over.
Ignoring evidence once again. If you read the article, you would have read that he actually has many contacts. He had 3 contacts in Europe to ask about Heckmann.
Great. Contacts on other continents locking up mediocre players. Sort of like how Spaz has built a wall around Canada and Germany (well other than the one good player from Germany that went to FSU).
The Don is still developing the contacts that actually matter. I am certain that he will. But Jones was a smart hire, because he was a substitute in the interim. Unfortunately, he is also a good coach that wasn't going to stay long.
So you think that the Don is wasting his time with contacts on another continent giving him insights on players that will not have as much competition when recruiting them?
It's a matter of selectivity; there are fewer possibilities in Europe (partly because they tend to turn pro earlier), so he has to be careful about how much time and energy he invests. On the other hand, there are real possibilities; I would mind him finding another Kostas Maglos (depending on how long he stayed around, which is more of an issue with European than with US players). There's even something like a pipeline from Europe developing; for example, US colleges have begun recruiting regularly from the Canarias Basketball Academy in the Canary Islands (which goes on an annual road trip to play US prep schools). The long-term trend in European recruiting is upward, I think, but at this point it's still a bit tricky, so recruiters have to be more careful about efficiency than in the US. It's certainly true, however, that Donahue's #1 priority is developing high-major recruiting connections in this country; with Jones gone, his Ivy League background has proven to be a real problem.
I really have no opinion on european recruiting either way, but his strategy is clearly to recruit players who aren't being highly recruited so if it works out for him, then it's good for me. He will need more wins to develop that pipeline in the US.