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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:42 am

bignick33 wrote:
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ATLeagle wrote:No one knew that Troy Bell was going to be as good as he was. Certainly no one on EA. People worried about other schools coming in late, but he didn't even get a Big Ten offer.

At this time in Al's tenure EA was probably more concerned about Al than we are about Donahue.

I think Donahue is a great Xs & Os guy but he's going to need a Bell/Smith/Dudley program changer to emerge from this incoming class or the next one.


Posters on EA, who despite loving giving Spaz a chance in his fourth miserable season hate giving Donahue a chance going into his third, are pretending that Craig Smith was an on paper big time get from a recruiting services standpoint because he is listed as a 4 star in the rivals database. Then one guy goes so far as to say Reggie Jackson was the highest rated player in Colorado since Chauncey Billups. While I have no idea what that means exactly, Reggie's best offer other than BC was Colorado(that's 2008 colorado for those handicapped with concepts such as time) and his other offers were from places like Tulsa and the Air Force Academy. Revisionist history stinks.


I've been on EA for a long time, so I'll clarify. Believe it or not, there was actually a lot of hype about both.

For Jackson, it was because a regular poster on that board, who is from Colorado (I forget whom, tkden, maybe), did indeed make the comment that his senior season was regarded locally as the best since Billups'. I distinctly remember the comparison in the winter/spring of that year, and apparently there was a lot of chatter among coaches in Colorado about Jacksons' development and future prospects.

In regards to Smith, bearing in mind that it was a lot long ago, and I was still in high school, so I didn't follow things as closely. That said, I am sure that he did come with some fanfare. Most of the hype occurred during/after his PG year at Worcester Academy. IIRC, other schools came after him at that point because he'd lost significant weight, and in addition to that a lot of EA posters (billyg comes to mind) were able to see him in person. Smith signed his second LOI with BC out of loyalty, although the 4* ranking was in line with how he was regarded at that time, even if it wasn't in line with how he was regarded out of high school.

I can't speak for Bell. But, in the cases of Jackson and Smith, most of the hype occurred well after they signed their LOIs. This falls in line with the diamond-in-the-rough narrative, and it doesn't really contradict ATL's implicit point above. That said, without the benefit of context, the comments that you quote above are not in and of themselves inaccurate.


I don't see how those additional facts make the comments less inaccurate. The bottom line is that Al and staff realized they were going to be great before other college coaches did, therefore they fit the diamond in rough narrative. Why would it matter what happened after their LOIs?

I suspect for the benefit of a premature comparison to Hanlan maybe? The idea being that since the stupid argument that Donahue has not met Al's on paper recruiting having far too many holes to float mainly due to a miniscule sample size and the invalidity of the concept of comparing the known positive results of Al's lightly regarded recruits against the unknown future prospects of Donahue's lightly regarded recruits being acknowledged, turning to the idea that Al's diamond in the rough recruits weren't actually diamonds in the rough at all but were actually always known to be great players before they played by sage message board posters and/or "Colorado coaches" whereas we don't know Hanlan and Rahon are great players so Donahue is a failed recruiter?

Because to that I say: I have heard that New England Prep school coaches think very highly of Olivier Hanlan and that he has really developed over his senior season and that if he had not signed his LOI in January he would have some really big offers right now and deserves at least one more star.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:44 am

HJS wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:Posters on EA, who despite loving giving Spaz a chance in his fourth miserable season hate giving Donahue a chance going into his third, are pretending that Craig Smith was an on paper big time get from a recruiting services standpoint because he is listed as a 4 star in the rivals database.

I thought that EA was generally a hell of a lot more patient with Don than those here. Most of EA hated Skinner because (a) he was a Carl and (b) he replaced their beloved Obie.

Nonetheless... Craig Smith is an example everyone can use because it shows BOTH that Skinner could only land diamonds-in-the-rough and Skinner was able to beat the big boys for a top ranked recruit. Craig Smith signed with BC out of Fairfax High School in LA. No one else recruited him (partly because he was considerd overweight). BC was far and away his best offer. However, he didn't qualify academically and BC placed him at Worcester Academy. While at WA, Smith slimmed down and began to dominate. At that point, everyone flooded in trying to steal him (I believe UConn was just one of many). Ultimately, Smith decided to stay true to the school that took a chance on him when no one else was interested. He stayed with BC... and the rest is history.


I agree so long as it is acknowledged that the most important part of the recruitment as it relates to actually getting him to BC was the early identification when we was at Fairfax. I see no reason to believe he wouldn't have gone to UCLA or some such place had he gotten his ducks in a row a year earlier.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:03 pm

BC offered 2013 PF Toby Hegner from WI. He's 6-9 but 192. 192. He apparently was big before but lost 25 pounds from mono. Other BCS offers are Northwestern, Iowa State, and Marquette. He's a 91 on ESPN and a 3 star on Rivals. Here's his scouting report:

Strengths:
Hegner is a long and lean post that is mobile and active. He runs the floor well and has very good skill. Hegner scores inside and out. In the low post he has pretty good foot work and a nice hook over his left shoulder. He can also face and knock down open jumpers with range to the arc with time and space mostly off the catch. He would be very good in pick and pop situations. Hegner is a good ball handler for his size and passer as well. Hegner is pretty good weak side shot blocker.

Weaknesses:
Adding strength should be a the top of Hegner's to do list which will help him hold his position in the low post on both ends. Hegner will need to be more of a factor on the glass as well which he is very capable.

Bottom Line:
Hegner is a skilled post that can score inside and out. He has good mobility and although he is already productive when he adds strength his productivity will go to the next level. Hegner has tremendous upside.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby RedBaron67 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
HJS wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:Posters on EA, who despite loving giving Spaz a chance in his fourth miserable season hate giving Donahue a chance going into his third, are pretending that Craig Smith was an on paper big time get from a recruiting services standpoint because he is listed as a 4 star in the rivals database.

I thought that EA was generally a hell of a lot more patient with Don than those here. Most of EA hated Skinner because (a) he was a Carl and (b) he replaced their beloved Obie.

Nonetheless... Craig Smith is an example everyone can use because it shows BOTH that Skinner could only land diamonds-in-the-rough and Skinner was able to beat the big boys for a top ranked recruit. Craig Smith signed with BC out of Fairfax High School in LA. No one else recruited him (partly because he was considerd overweight). BC was far and away his best offer. However, he didn't qualify academically and BC placed him at Worcester Academy. While at WA, Smith slimmed down and began to dominate. At that point, everyone flooded in trying to steal him (I believe UConn was just one of many). Ultimately, Smith decided to stay true to the school that took a chance on him when no one else was interested. He stayed with BC... and the rest is history.


I agree so long as it is acknowledged that the most important part of the recruitment as it relates to actually getting him to BC was the early identification when we was at Fairfax. I see no reason to believe he wouldn't have gone to UCLA or some such place had he gotten his ducks in a row a year earlier.


I think we can all agree that getting a verbal from Smith at Fairfax when he was fat and unwanted was the necessary precondition to holding on to him after he trimmed down, blew up, and became a blue chip at Worcester Academy. There are resemblances with the case of Hanlan, who clearly heated up, if a bit less conspicuously, during his last year at New Hampton.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Recent Article on Jordan Tebbutt:

If all goes right, 6-foot-5, 210-pound Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy small forward Jordan Tebbutt will be able to make a decision within the next few weeks.

According to Jordan's father, Brad Tebbutt, the 2012 prospect has set a hopeful date for a decision.

"He said that he hopes he can sign and be done by May 5," Tebbutt said. "That's his target date, but I don't know if it's realistic or not."

So far, two schools have received official visits, and there could be more trips taken before a decision is made.

"He went to Boston College to two weeks ago and then he also officially visited Washington State," Tebbutt said.

"He's definitely interested in taking a couple other visits so he can do some comparisons. We're talking with one or two other Pac-12 teams and a couple Big 12 teams. His interest in the Big 12 has grown over the past year and a half.

"Of the schools in the Big 12, Baylor or Kansas might get visits, one of those two. In the Pac-12, we've reopened conversations with them and Washington and Oregon State are possibilities. We might be waiting until that May 5 weekend."

Brad Tebbutt broke down Jordan's thoughts on the two schools that he's officially visited so far.

Boston College: "Steve Donahue is a brilliant guy. His intelligence really stood out. The way he designed his offense is very unique and it allows for a lot of possessions. Whoever gets the ball gets it and runs, and to Jordan that's something he would enjoy."

Washington State: "We've had an ongoing, long relationship with Washington State. Coach Ken Bone and Curtis Allen have been around forever in the recruitment and there's a lot of comfort there. We've really built on that relationship. I also think the offense would visit Jordan well."

The job that Washington State has done building a relationship with Tebbutt could be a factor, although the intrigue of playing in a different conference poses a threat to the Cougars.

"We're having a hard time," Tebbutt said. "I think it would be fair to say if he was to choose by conference, he'd be more interested in the Big 12. Between the schools, I think he has the greatest connection with the coaching staff at Washington State."
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:25 pm

BCEaglesFan wrote:"We're having a hard time," Tebbutt said. "I think it would be fair to say if he was to choose by conference, he'd be more interested in the Big 12. Between the schools, I think he has the greatest connection with the coaching staff at Washington State."

I guess this confirms that we are out of the running with Tebbutt.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bignick33 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:33 pm

Jared Swopshire is transferring to Northwestern.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:35 pm

bignick33 wrote:Jared Swopshire is transferring to Syracuse.

Northwestern, you mean.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:50 pm

@VinParise The word is that Iona transfer Kyle Smyth is visiting @BostonCollege tomorrow.....
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:02 pm

Gill to Pacific. No BC offer...
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby GlorytoBC on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:30 pm

BCEaglesFan wrote:First of all, wasn't BC always known as a place where you got underrated recruits that didn't get that great offers? Let's look at some examples:
Jared Dudley-Offers from Creighton and San Diego State
Troy Bell-Grew up 5 minutes from Minnesota's campus and didn't get an offer from them
Craig Smith-Barely recruited
Louis Hinnant-Barely Recruited
Tyrese Rice-Only major offer was from Wake Forest
Reggie Jackson-Only other offers from Colorado State and Temple

Now let's look at how each 4 star recruit did at BC:
Johnnie Jackson-Did nothing and transferred after 2 years
S*** W*******- :seanwilliams did pot, blocked a ton of shots but flamed out after 3 years
Shamari Spears-Showed flashes but transferred after 2 years because of arrest
Rakim Sanders-Extremely talented but out of shape and transferred after 3 years
Josh Southern-Slow big man who couldn't dunk. Role player at best
Reggie Jackson-One exception to this list, but it took the Don to turn him into a great player

In the 2011 Class:
Anderson picked BC over Oregon, Washington State, Miami, etc. plus he was an ESPNU 100 player
Jackson had an ASU offer
Clifford committed very early so he didn't get a chance to get high-major offers
Caudill had offers from Northwestern, Arizona State, Oregon state, etc.
Daniels was talented enough but too small to get high-major offers
Heckmann had offers from Michigan, Clemson, and a lot more

The rankings don't matter, it's how the player pans out that matters. People on EO were saying this months ago. just because BC lost out on Tebbutt and is going after a guy that is 1 point, only 1, behind him on ESPN and has offers from Washington State and Depaul means recruiting is embarrassing all of a sudden? Please. The 2011 class wasn't incredibly highly rated but it did okay for the fact that it was thrown into the fire from the start.

Basically, to declare that recruiting sucks now already is BS.


Wake never offered Tyrese.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bignick33 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:35 pm

GlorytoBC wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:First of all, wasn't BC always known as a place where you got underrated recruits that didn't get that great offers? Let's look at some examples:
Jared Dudley-Offers from Creighton and San Diego State
Troy Bell-Grew up 5 minutes from Minnesota's campus and didn't get an offer from them
Craig Smith-Barely recruited
Louis Hinnant-Barely Recruited
Tyrese Rice-Only major offer was from Wake Forest
Reggie Jackson-Only other offers from Colorado State and Temple

Now let's look at how each 4 star recruit did at BC:
Johnnie Jackson-Did nothing and transferred after 2 years
S*** W*******- :seanwilliams did pot, blocked a ton of shots but flamed out after 3 years
Shamari Spears-Showed flashes but transferred after 2 years because of arrest
Rakim Sanders-Extremely talented but out of shape and transferred after 3 years
Josh Southern-Slow big man who couldn't dunk. Role player at best
Reggie Jackson-One exception to this list, but it took the Don to turn him into a great player

In the 2011 Class:
Anderson picked BC over Oregon, Washington State, Miami, etc. plus he was an ESPNU 100 player
Jackson had an ASU offer
Clifford committed very early so he didn't get a chance to get high-major offers
Caudill had offers from Northwestern, Arizona State, Oregon state, etc.
Daniels was talented enough but too small to get high-major offers
Heckmann had offers from Michigan, Clemson, and a lot more

The rankings don't matter, it's how the player pans out that matters. People on EO were saying this months ago. just because BC lost out on Tebbutt and is going after a guy that is 1 point, only 1, behind him on ESPN and has offers from Washington State and Depaul means recruiting is embarrassing all of a sudden? Please. The 2011 class wasn't incredibly highly rated but it did okay for the fact that it was thrown into the fire from the start.

Basically, to declare that recruiting sucks now already is BS.


Wake never offered Tyrese.


I thought Wake did, just so late that it pissed him off. They were waiting until Paul decided whether to go to the NBA or not.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 781 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:00 am

bignick33 wrote:
GlorytoBC wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:First of all, wasn't BC always known as a place where you got underrated recruits that didn't get that great offers? Let's look at some examples:
Jared Dudley-Offers from Creighton and San Diego State
Troy Bell-Grew up 5 minutes from Minnesota's campus and didn't get an offer from them
Craig Smith-Barely recruited
Louis Hinnant-Barely Recruited
Tyrese Rice-Only major offer was from Wake Forest
Reggie Jackson-Only other offers from Colorado State and Temple

Now let's look at how each 4 star recruit did at BC:
Johnnie Jackson-Did nothing and transferred after 2 years
S*** W*******- :seanwilliams did pot, blocked a ton of shots but flamed out after 3 years
Shamari Spears-Showed flashes but transferred after 2 years because of arrest
Rakim Sanders-Extremely talented but out of shape and transferred after 3 years
Josh Southern-Slow big man who couldn't dunk. Role player at best
Reggie Jackson-One exception to this list, but it took the Don to turn him into a great player

In the 2011 Class:
Anderson picked BC over Oregon, Washington State, Miami, etc. plus he was an ESPNU 100 player
Jackson had an ASU offer
Clifford committed very early so he didn't get a chance to get high-major offers
Caudill had offers from Northwestern, Arizona State, Oregon state, etc.
Daniels was talented enough but too small to get high-major offers
Heckmann had offers from Michigan, Clemson, and a lot more

The rankings don't matter, it's how the player pans out that matters. People on EO were saying this months ago. just because BC lost out on Tebbutt and is going after a guy that is 1 point, only 1, behind him on ESPN and has offers from Washington State and Depaul means recruiting is embarrassing all of a sudden? Please. The 2011 class wasn't incredibly highly rated but it did okay for the fact that it was thrown into the fire from the start.

Basically, to declare that recruiting sucks now already is BS.


Wake never offered Tyrese.


I thought Wake did, just so late that it pissed him off. They were waiting until Paul decided whether to go to the NBA or not.


AL Skinner and his staff were known to find those recruits. Two different coaching staffs
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 781 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:02 am

BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby DuchesneEast on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:22 am

781 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
GlorytoBC wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:First of all, wasn't BC always known as a place where you got underrated recruits that didn't get that great offers? Let's look at some examples:
Jared Dudley-Offers from Creighton and San Diego State
Troy Bell-Grew up 5 minutes from Minnesota's campus and didn't get an offer from them
Craig Smith-Barely recruited
Louis Hinnant-Barely Recruited
Tyrese Rice-Only major offer was from Wake Forest
Reggie Jackson-Only other offers from Colorado State and Temple

Now let's look at how each 4 star recruit did at BC:
Johnnie Jackson-Did nothing and transferred after 2 years
S*** W*******- :seanwilliams did pot, blocked a ton of shots but flamed out after 3 years
Shamari Spears-Showed flashes but transferred after 2 years because of arrest
Rakim Sanders-Extremely talented but out of shape and transferred after 3 years
Josh Southern-Slow big man who couldn't dunk. Role player at best
Reggie Jackson-One exception to this list, but it took the Don to turn him into a great player

In the 2011 Class:
Anderson picked BC over Oregon, Washington State, Miami, etc. plus he was an ESPNU 100 player
Jackson had an ASU offer
Clifford committed very early so he didn't get a chance to get high-major offers
Caudill had offers from Northwestern, Arizona State, Oregon state, etc.
Daniels was talented enough but too small to get high-major offers
Heckmann had offers from Michigan, Clemson, and a lot more

The rankings don't matter, it's how the player pans out that matters. People on EO were saying this months ago. just because BC lost out on Tebbutt and is going after a guy that is 1 point, only 1, behind him on ESPN and has offers from Washington State and Depaul means recruiting is embarrassing all of a sudden? Please. The 2011 class wasn't incredibly highly rated but it did okay for the fact that it was thrown into the fire from the start.

Basically, to declare that recruiting sucks now already is BS.


Wake never offered Tyrese.


I thought Wake did, just so late that it pissed him off. They were waiting until Paul decided whether to go to the NBA or not.


AL Skinner and his staff were known to find those recruits. Two different coaching staffs


I believe Wake did offer him, he was a late commit if I remember and it was between the 2 of us. They even commented on it during a Wake game and the coach said something like "What could have been"
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:51 am

781 wrote:BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor


I love our odds in that recruiting battle.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:54 am

781 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
GlorytoBC wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:First of all, wasn't BC always known as a place where you got underrated recruits that didn't get that great offers? Let's look at some examples:
Jared Dudley-Offers from Creighton and San Diego State
Troy Bell-Grew up 5 minutes from Minnesota's campus and didn't get an offer from them
Craig Smith-Barely recruited
Louis Hinnant-Barely Recruited
Tyrese Rice-Only major offer was from Wake Forest
Reggie Jackson-Only other offers from Colorado State and Temple

Now let's look at how each 4 star recruit did at BC:
Johnnie Jackson-Did nothing and transferred after 2 years
S*** W*******- :seanwilliams did pot, blocked a ton of shots but flamed out after 3 years
Shamari Spears-Showed flashes but transferred after 2 years because of arrest
Rakim Sanders-Extremely talented but out of shape and transferred after 3 years
Josh Southern-Slow big man who couldn't dunk. Role player at best
Reggie Jackson-One exception to this list, but it took the Don to turn him into a great player

In the 2011 Class:
Anderson picked BC over Oregon, Washington State, Miami, etc. plus he was an ESPNU 100 player
Jackson had an ASU offer
Clifford committed very early so he didn't get a chance to get high-major offers
Caudill had offers from Northwestern, Arizona State, Oregon state, etc.
Daniels was talented enough but too small to get high-major offers
Heckmann had offers from Michigan, Clemson, and a lot more

The rankings don't matter, it's how the player pans out that matters. People on EO were saying this months ago. just because BC lost out on Tebbutt and is going after a guy that is 1 point, only 1, behind him on ESPN and has offers from Washington State and Depaul means recruiting is embarrassing all of a sudden? Please. The 2011 class wasn't incredibly highly rated but it did okay for the fact that it was thrown into the fire from the start.

Basically, to declare that recruiting sucks now already is BS.


Wake never offered Tyrese.


I thought Wake did, just so late that it pissed him off. They were waiting until Paul decided whether to go to the NBA or not.


AL Skinner and his staff were known to find those recruits. Two different coaching staffs


goddamit.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby apbc12 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:54 am

eepstein0 wrote:
781 wrote:BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor


I love our odds in that recruiting battle.

What is your ideal recruiting method? You seem to be upset when BC doesn't go after big-name recruits, and also when they do.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby claver2010 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:56 am

apbc12 wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
781 wrote:BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor


I love our odds in that recruiting battle.

What is your ideal recruiting method? You seem to be upset when BC doesn't go after big-name recruits, and also when they do.



Exactly.

If he has other ACC/baby rapists it's oh we have no shot but if it's diamond in the rough we have DONAHUE CANT RECRUIT D STUDZ!11!!1!!
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:53 am

eepstein0 wrote:
781 wrote:BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor


I love our odds in that recruiting battle.


What's strange is that lately the Don has been pulling out of these battles when their recruitment blows up, why waste time with a late offer? Unless he feels as if he has a chance to land him.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:12 am

Shaddix wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
781 wrote:BC has offered '13 6'8 F Marcus Lee. to go along with offers from Florida, Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Baylor


I love our odds in that recruiting battle.


What's strange is that lately the Don has been pulling out of these battles when their recruitment blows up, why waste time with a late offer? Unless he feels as if he has a chance to land him.


We've been recruiting Marcus Lee for over a year. I'm fine with him giving it a try.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:14 pm

with Reischel out of the picture, I actually hope we land Drageicevich just due to his size and shooting ability. unless we're going after someone who can really rebound. are we? what wings/forwards are we still going after for 2012?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:10 pm

BCEagles25 wrote:with Reischel out of the picture, I actually hope we land Drageicevich just due to his size and shooting ability. unless we're going after someone who can really rebound. are we? what wings/forwards are we still going after for 2012?

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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:14 pm

@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby claver2010 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:15 pm

BCEaglesFan wrote:@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

Nephew of Boston Celtic's GM Danny Ainge...


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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:42 pm

@ChiTribHamilton Former #NotreDame guard Alex Dragicevich, still mulling transfer options, will take a look at Oregon State next week.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:40 pm

claver2010 wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

Nephew of Boston Celtic's GM Danny Ainge...


HJS coming in 3, 2, 1...

No reason for me to post if ESPN Scouting Reports are going to do it all for me.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bignick33 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:42 pm

claver2010 wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

Nephew of Boston Celtic's GM Danny Ainge...


HJS coming in 3, 2, 1...


So is 9903
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:44 pm

bignick33 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

Nephew of Boston Celtic's GM Danny Ainge...


HJS coming in 3, 2, 1...


So is 9903


how was getting "counseled" by nospace? NTTAWWT sinner
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bignick33 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:46 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
bignick33 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
BCEaglesFan wrote:@TheRecruitScoop Boston College has offered Jake Toolson, a 2014 SF from Utah Select (UT), reports @JoshGershon.

Scouting report:

Strengths:
Toolson is one of the most prolific shooters in the country and his range is unlimited. He gets his shot off quick and his range extends out to at least 25-feet. His release is smooth and he is equally affective shooting off the dribble as off the catch. In addition, he can slash his way to the rim where he has a knack to score or drop off the nifty assist. Toolson is a system-type player with a high IQ for the game. He handles it decently in the open court and is a fine passer.

Weaknesses:
He is limited athletically (solid vertically, but just average laterally). He needs to improve his quickness and speed as well as his vertical to drive his stock upward. In addition, he needs to continue to develop his triple threat game (1st step, jab step, up fake, etc.) to expand his game.

Bottom Line:
While watching Toolson launch feathery jump shots from way deep, I could not help but reminisce the days of former UCLA standout Tracy Murray. Due to his shooting prowess and feel, he will definitely garner Division I attention in the coming seasons.

Notes

Nephew of Boston Celtic's GM Danny Ainge...


HJS coming in 3, 2, 1...


So is 9903


how was getting "counseled" by nospace? NTTAWWT sinner


Nospace is back?
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