bignick33 wrote:eagle9903 wrote:ATLeagle wrote:No one knew that Troy Bell was going to be as good as he was. Certainly no one on EA. People worried about other schools coming in late, but he didn't even get a Big Ten offer.
At this time in Al's tenure EA was probably more concerned about Al than we are about Donahue.
I think Donahue is a great Xs & Os guy but he's going to need a Bell/Smith/Dudley program changer to emerge from this incoming class or the next one.
Posters on EA, who despite loving giving Spaz a chance in his fourth miserable season hate giving Donahue a chance going into his third, are pretending that Craig Smith was an on paper big time get from a recruiting services standpoint because he is listed as a 4 star in the rivals database. Then one guy goes so far as to say Reggie Jackson was the highest rated player in Colorado since Chauncey Billups. While I have no idea what that means exactly, Reggie's best offer other than BC was Colorado(that's 2008 colorado for those handicapped with concepts such as time) and his other offers were from places like Tulsa and the Air Force Academy. Revisionist history stinks.
I've been on EA for a long time, so I'll clarify. Believe it or not, there was actually a lot of hype about both.
For Jackson, it was because a regular poster on that board, who is from Colorado (I forget whom, tkden, maybe), did indeed make the comment that his senior season was regarded locally as the best since Billups'. I distinctly remember the comparison in the winter/spring of that year, and apparently there was a lot of chatter among coaches in Colorado about Jacksons' development and future prospects.
In regards to Smith, bearing in mind that it was a lot long ago, and I was still in high school, so I didn't follow things as closely. That said, I am sure that he did come with some fanfare. Most of the hype occurred during/after his PG year at Worcester Academy. IIRC, other schools came after him at that point because he'd lost significant weight, and in addition to that a lot of EA posters (billyg comes to mind) were able to see him in person. Smith signed his second LOI with BC out of loyalty, although the 4* ranking was in line with how he was regarded at that time, even if it wasn't in line with how he was regarded out of high school.
I can't speak for Bell. But, in the cases of Jackson and Smith, most of the hype occurred well after they signed their LOIs. This falls in line with the diamond-in-the-rough narrative, and it doesn't really contradict ATL's implicit point above. That said, without the benefit of context, the comments that you quote above are not in and of themselves inaccurate.
I don't see how those additional facts make the comments less inaccurate. The bottom line is that Al and staff realized they were going to be great before other college coaches did, therefore they fit the diamond in rough narrative. Why would it matter what happened after their LOIs?
I suspect for the benefit of a premature comparison to Hanlan maybe? The idea being that since the stupid argument that Donahue has not met Al's on paper recruiting having far too many holes to float mainly due to a miniscule sample size and the invalidity of the concept of comparing the known positive results of Al's lightly regarded recruits against the unknown future prospects of Donahue's lightly regarded recruits being acknowledged, turning to the idea that Al's diamond in the rough recruits weren't actually diamonds in the rough at all but were actually always known to be great players before they played by sage message board posters and/or "Colorado coaches" whereas we don't know Hanlan and Rahon are great players so Donahue is a failed recruiter?
Because to that I say: I have heard that New England Prep school coaches think very highly of Olivier Hanlan and that he has really developed over his senior season and that if he had not signed his LOI in January he would have some really big offers right now and deserves at least one more star.