Someone do me a favor re: EagleAction

[bignick33]

BC told Stacey Bedell thanks but no thanks since he was considering UMass as well so he likely won't be visiting this weekend. BC has no problem with kids considering Harvard or other Ivy League schools because of the education, but UMass was a bit too much.

Does this strike anyone else as not making even the smallest amount of sense?

It makes not even a smidgen of sense, but I haven't decided whether to attribute the nonsensical-ness to Farrell or to Spaz. I'm leaning towards blaming Farrell, because I don't think the staff has the foresight to avoid the type of embarrassment that Farrell is implying is their motivation (and I disagree with the implicit assertion that losing the kid to UMass would be worse than losing him to Harvard). On that note, it appears that one of Farrell/Spaz doesn't realize that UMass is joining the MAC.

1) Farrell clearly pulled the reasoning right out of his ass. But, 2) that doesn't resolve Spaz of the blame for not being able to outrecruit UMass for a RB, nor 3) BC for retaining Spaz' boss.

1) Yes
2) Maybe (the timing of pulling the offer right when Schiano leaves could be indicative)
3) Yes

2) doesn't make sense to me. Peoples is like 165 lbs. What would he do in our offense?

In the Henry thread, he commented that BC was recruiting Bedell as a corner.

who would that be then, Carroo?

Yea, maybe. Don't forget the quota of 1 on fast guys.

[GreenvilleEagle]

You can lead a horse to water but if he doesn't want to drink....move on. If the guy can't appreciate the difference between BC and UMass/JMU/ etc. then 9 out of 10 times he is not what we want. I intentionally refrained from saying 10 out of 10 because there is the occasional student athlete who has a valid reason for debating what is the right choice. Having said that, I suspect that most people who would struggle with this choice are either intimidated by the academics or the competition for a starting role.

[eagle9903]

it may be an instance of old people not knowing how to use computers, but I think a poster just called for bcwest to be banned for asking whether Spaz should be fired for having the worst ranked recruiting class of any BCS school.

[hansen]

it may be an instance of old people not knowing how to use computers, but I think a poster just called for bcwest to be banned for asking whether Spaz should be fired for having the worst ranked recruiting class of any BCS school.

BCWest is arguably the best serious poster out there on the bc interwebz. the fact that people are calling for his banning is just another reason the people of EA are a bigger fxcking disaster than the residents of the Yawkey Center.

[GreenvilleEagle]

it may be an instance of old people not knowing how to use computers, but I think a poster just called for bcwest to be banned for asking whether Spaz should be fired for having the worst ranked recruiting class of any BCS school.

BCWest is arguably the best serious poster out there on the bc interwebz. the fact that people are calling for his banning is just another reason the people of EA are a bigger fxcking disaster than the residents of the Yawkey Center.

I think the so called banning is in reference to the following post:

Seeing as Gene pointed towards recruiting as one of the primary reasons he hired Spaz, than yes, he should be able to be fired for not delivering on said reason.

That said, if Gene comes home tonight and finds Mrs. DeFilipo in the sack with the 'stache, I'm still not sure he gets fired. He'd probably just tell spaz that it's been 15 years since the mrs......

nevermind.

[EagleDave]

it may be an instance of old people not knowing how to use computers, but I think a poster just called for bcwest to be banned for asking whether Spaz should be fired for having the worst ranked recruiting class of any BCS school.

BCWest is arguably the best serious poster out there on the bc interwebz. the fact that people are calling for his banning is just another reason the people of EA are a bigger fxcking disaster than the residents of the Yawkey Center.

I think the so called banning is in reference to the following post:

Seeing as Gene pointed towards recruiting as one of the primary reasons he hired Spaz, than yes, he should be able to be fired for not delivering on said reason.

That said, if Gene comes home tonight and finds Mrs. DeFilipo in the sack with the 'stache, I'm still not sure he gets fired. He'd probably just tell spaz that it's been 15 years since the mrs......

nevermind.

That post is all kinds of epic...

[GreenvilleEagle]

Very true, I lived through it sir. It's been mentioned by others before, and I can certainly say it's true. My son and a couple of his teammates who were being recruited by BC, as well as others in the Atlanta metro area (hotbed of talent), were all in shock as no communication came from the BC coaching staff starting in August. Emails went unresponded to, communication lines broken. Unfortunately, a couple of the kids are 2013 D 1 A prospects as well. Not only did it put a bad taste in the mouth of the 2012 kids, but it already has affected next years recruits. It's sad. The four and five stars won't come to BC because of their level of status in the BCS; the three and two stars won't come because they are getting recruited better by schools on the same level or sometimes lesser level than BC. Doesn't surprise me to see recruits that would rather go to Harvard, UMass and Northeastern; they were simply treated like they were wanted.

After being courted by Vandy, Stanford, Northwestern, Rice and BC among others, my son committed to Navy. For the record BC was the first school to really show him big time interest, and he was very interested in them. After the college season started though, and while he started getting interest from some of the aforementioned schools, BC stopped communicating. He ended up choosing Navy because he loved the place, HE was THEIR FIRST choice at RB, while the other schools either wanted him to play LB, or he was lower on their boards at RB. I really do wish BC well, just think they made an error with their recruiting plan this year.

[ATLeagle]

Very true, I lived through it sir. It's been mentioned by others before, and I can certainly say it's true. My son and a couple of his teammates who were being recruited by BC, as well as others in the Atlanta metro area (hotbed of talent), were all in shock as no communication came from the BC coaching staff starting in August. Emails went unresponded to, communication lines broken. Unfortunately, a couple of the kids are 2013 D 1 A prospects as well. Not only did it put a bad taste in the mouth of the 2012 kids, but it already has affected next years recruits. It's sad. The four and five stars won't come to BC because of their level of status in the BCS; the three and two stars won't come because they are getting recruited better by schools on the same level or sometimes lesser level than BC. Doesn't surprise me to see recruits that would rather go to Harvard, UMass and Northeastern; they were simply treated like they were wanted.

After being courted by Vandy, Stanford, Northwestern, Rice and BC among others, my son committed to Navy. For the record BC was the first school to really show him big time interest, and he was very interested in them. After the college season started though, and while he started getting interest from some of the aforementioned schools, BC stopped communicating. He ended up choosing Navy because he loved the place, HE was THEIR FIRST choice at RB, while the other schools either wanted him to play LB, or he was lower on their boards at RB. I really do wish BC well, just think they made an error with their recruiting plan this year.

Are those posts from regular posters on EA or from an article?

[PhillyandBCEagles]

They're from the dad of an RB from Georgia in this year's class who BC looked at (but didn't offer) and ultimately committed to Navy....he's posted a few times in the last few weeks, very complimentary of BC as a school but critical of the staff's recruiting attitude

[2001Eagle]

They're from the dad of an RB from Georgia in this year's class who BC looked at (but didn't offer) and ultimately committed to Navy....he's posted a few times in the last few weeks, very complimentary of BC as a school but critical of the staff's recruiting attitude

Apparently, other schools continue to recruit once the football season starts. I'm shocked. Who knew?

[Cadillac90]

They're from the dad of an RB from Georgia in this year's class who BC looked at (but didn't offer) and ultimately committed to Navy....he's posted a few times in the last few weeks, very complimentary of BC as a school but critical of the staff's recruiting attitude

Apparently, other schools continue to recruit once the football season starts. I'm shocked. Who knew?

The BC coaches don't have time to recruit during the season. They are working on all the excuses for the shitty season and the shitty recruiting. It is not easy to come up with new material year in and year out.

[Herzylax22]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

[pick6pedro]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

[claver2010]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

You give the staff way too much credit.

Right now we're recruiting football players vs. UMass, Harvard, & NU track and field. I don't think the staff ever realized they aren't shooting high enough -despite whatever TGOSB tells the lemmings.

[HJS]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

This assumes that they sign someone else at the same position as the kid going to Navy.

[eagle9903]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

the quoted parent(I think?) also says that it was not just his son, but multiple players who received similar lack of response.

[HustlinOwl]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

BSU has a lot more players without BCS offers than ones that did. I'll admit some of the ones that didn't get BCS offers have rap sheets longer than my arm, but that's beside the point.

Loosen up your rules or live with it.

[claver2010]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

BSU has a lot more players without BCS offers than ones that did. I'll admit some of the ones that didn't get BCS offers have rap sheets longer than my arm, but that's beside the point.

Loosen up your rules or live with it.

You hit part of it in your last post. 95% of Boise's commits wouldn't have a chance at BC.

[HustlinOwl]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

BSU has a lot more players without BCS offers than ones that did. I'll admit some of the ones that didn't get BCS offers have rap sheets longer than my arm, but that's beside the point.

Loosen up your rules or live with it.

You hit part of it in your last post. 95% of Boise's commits wouldn't have a chance at BC.

I disagree. I'd say all the ones who could at least read would make it at BC. So I think at least 75% could make it with proper tutoring. Might also require BC to fund a parks and recreation management degree.

[innocentbystander]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

BSU has a lot more players without BCS offers than ones that did. I'll admit some of the ones that didn't get BCS offers have rap sheets longer than my arm, but that's beside the point.

Loosen up your rules or live with it.

You hit part of it in your last post. 95% of Boise's commits wouldn't have a chance at BC.

I disagree. I'd say all the ones who could at least read would make it at BC. So I think at least 75% could make it with proper tutoring. Might also require BC to fund a parks and recreation management degree.

I think that this is part of it. I think what it is (mostly) is that Boise State doesn't play in the ACC and they only have two or three toughie games a year. But they still win those toughie games (remember Oregon in 2009?)

A interesting topic that was part of the 2011 college football world (with regards to Boise State) was how could BSU's unranked, 5'11" 285 pound fat-shit center, pass block or drive block on Georgia's 5-star, 6'6" 320 pound nose tackle? The experts didn't think that would be possible. By any reasonable measure, that Georgia defensive linemen should have sacked the six-foot-nothing, one-hundred-eighty-pound-nothing Kellen Moore on every down or (at the very least) plugged up the middle of the field such that there would have been no running game up the middle. The stats speak for themselves:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312460061

1st Downs BSU:24 Georgia: 13
Total Yards BSU: 390 Georgia: 373
Passing BSU: 261 Georgia: 236
Rushing BSU: 129 Georgia: 137

Ooops.

Perhaps Boise State often finds those diamonds in the rough? Perhaps they can take those unranked or 2-star players and maximize their abilities? Perhaps it is just great coaching? Whatever it is, give it to BC.

[31southst]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

Simple:

RB with BCS offers > RB with Navy-like offers > no RBs at all

This is exactly right, especially when one of your four RBs (an injury-prone position) is coming off major knee surgery.

[HustlinOwl]

I think that this is part of it. I think what it is (mostly) is that Boise State doesn't play in the ACC and they only have two or three toughie games a year. But they still win those toughie games (remember Oregon in 2009?)

The whole SOS thing is a myth. There were only three teams in the ACC with a harder schedule than BSU. And if BSU didn't get robbed out of a BCS game, it would be zero.

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf

[DomingoOrtiz]

Looks like someone had a chat TGOSB. They deleted a bunch of posts this morning that were less then supportive of the Dudeck commitment.

Still censoring posts, are you kidding?
Seriously, what the heck are the administrators here doing? I noticed a couple of negative posts that have "magically" disappeared this morning. This board is generally negative and correctly so after the blatant mismanagement we've seen from this staff and athletic department. We're getting into serious Big Brotherish territory when the mods start protecting their subscribers from seeing their own opinions reiterated by others.

[claver2010]

How long until that post mysteriously disappears?

[cvilleagle]

I'm neither defending nor attacking the current state of recruiting. However, why is it that if BC signs a kid who's only other offer was from Navy the recruiting is ridiculed for not aiming high enough but if BC stops recruiting a kid who winds up signing with Navy it's a flaw in recruiting instead of maybe a realization that they weren't shooting high enough?

You give the staff way too much credit.

Right now we're recruiting football players vs. UMass, Harvard, & NU track and field. I don't think the staff ever realized they aren't shooting high enough -despite whatever TGOSB tells the lemmings.

THIS. Spaz has not earned the benefit of the doubt. He's earned the exact opposite - suspicion about every single move that he's made. He has repeatedly demonstrated utter incompetence, so in the absence of solid information to the contrary, the most logical conclusion is that he is lazy, incompetent, and in way over his head.

[HJS]

Looks like someone had a chat TGOSB. They deleted a bunch of posts this morning that were less then supportive of the Dudeck commitment.

Still censoring posts, are you kidding?
Seriously, what the heck are the administrators here doing? I noticed a couple of negative posts that have "magically" disappeared this morning. This board is generally negative and correctly so after the blatant mismanagement we've seen from this staff and athletic department. We're getting into serious Big Brotherish territory when the mods start protecting their subscribers from seeing their own opinions reiterated by others.

Ha!!! What was deleted? I mean... how bad could it really have been given the general negative vibe surrounding the program?

BTW... this is why Farrell will never make as much money on EA as he used to. Pay sites either have to have a crazy busy message board community or they need to provide a ton of inside info. Farrell can't foster the former and couldn't be bothered with the latter.

[Nate2651]

Looks like someone had a chat TGOSB. They deleted a bunch of posts this morning that were less then supportive of the Dudeck commitment.

Still censoring posts, are you kidding?
Seriously, what the heck are the administrators here doing? I noticed a couple of negative posts that have "magically" disappeared this morning. This board is generally negative and correctly so after the blatant mismanagement we've seen from this staff and athletic department. We're getting into serious Big Brotherish territory when the mods start protecting their subscribers from seeing their own opinions reiterated by others.

Ha!!! What was deleted? I mean... how bad could it really have been given the general negative vibe surrounding the program?

BTW... this is why Farrell will never make as much money on EA as he used to. Pay sites either have to have a crazy busy message board community or they need to provide a ton of inside info. Farrell can't foster the former and couldn't be bothered with the latter.

I saw his post before deleted. He kind of took a pot shot at the kid saying it was a waste of a scholorship. Not saying I agree but in general it's pretty well known you cant take shots at the kids

[eagle9903]

Looks like someone had a chat TGOSB. They deleted a bunch of posts this morning that were less then supportive of the Dudeck commitment.

Still censoring posts, are you kidding?
Seriously, what the heck are the administrators here doing? I noticed a couple of negative posts that have "magically" disappeared this morning. This board is generally negative and correctly so after the blatant mismanagement we've seen from this staff and athletic department. We're getting into serious Big Brotherish territory when the mods start protecting their subscribers from seeing their own opinions reiterated by others.

Ha!!! What was deleted? I mean... how bad could it really have been given the general negative vibe surrounding the program?

BTW... this is why Farrell will never make as much money on EA as he used to. Pay sites either have to have a crazy busy message board community or they need to provide a ton of inside info. Farrell can't foster the former and couldn't be bothered with the latter.

I saw his post before deleted. He kind of took a pot shot at the kid saying it was a waste of a scholorship. Not saying I agree but in general it's pretty well known you cant take shots at the kids

Bullshit. Eaglegradcc calls kids retards and worse when they waiver or don't commit to BC and I'm fairly sure sometimes even when they do. He is not censored. Bceaglenyc/bcsportsfan2 posts the same thing too much and it can get annoying, actually, he's gotten much better, but I get how it annoys people still.

[Nate2651]

Maybe you have a point. Just guessing, because I mean theres 100 different threads on there about how bad Spaz and his stuff suck.

[eagle9903]

Maybe you have a point. Just guessing, because I mean theres 100 different threads on there about how bad Spaz and his stuff suck.

By the way, starting my reply with bullshit was not necessary there so sorry about that, Its not like your post was ridiculous or anything. I just am of the school of thought that there probably is some pressure, real or perceived to not criticize either the staff at this point (taking into account the totality of staff bashing) or maybe this kid specifically because his dad is the coach of a school which has a fair amount of BCS prospects.