Kuechly & the Draft

[eagle9903]

please do not let kuechly go to tampa with shady.

edit: crisis averted

[eagle9903]

9th is great, Panthers could be good. Good matchups with Matty Ice

[cvilleagle]

Carolina. Damnit, was hoping he'd fall one more spot to my Bills.

[apbc12]

He gets to live in Charlotte!

Seriously, congratulations to Kuechly. No one works harder or deserves it more.

[RegalBCeagle]

While the point about the rookie scale is true, I don't think I'd be willing to trade 27/31 for a pick in the 10-12 range.

Unfortunately the Pats will trade 1 of those picks for future picks (probably the team's #1 next year and their #3 or #4 next year) and use the other of the two picks to take either an OL or a TE, even though they clearly need a pass rusher and/or secondary help.

One of these f-ing years Belichichick will go for a top flight guy instead of the f-ing "value" that has kept them a few plays away from winning another Superbowl.

[uconnbaseball]

Congratulations. He's a fun player to watch.

[Bryn Mawr Eagle]

Congratulations. He's a fun player to watch.

I never get bored seeing your sig.

[cvilleagle]

There's something about the new rookie wage scale, etc. that makes 11 way better than 10, but I can't remember what.

[BC923]

Him and Beason will make for a pretty scary set of linebackers.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

[Bryn Mawr Eagle]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

[HJS]

While the point about the rookie scale is true, I don't think I'd be willing to trade 27/31 for a pick in the 10-12 range.

Unfortunately the Pats will trade 1 of those picks for future picks (probably the team's #1 next year and their #3 or #4 next year) and use the other of the two picks to take either an OL or a TE, even though they clearly need a pass rusher and/or secondary help.

One of these f-ing years Belichichick will go for a top flight guy instead of the f-ing "value" that has kept them a few plays away from winning another Superbowl.

As I posted before the draft, with the new salary structure in place, if you see a player you like, you spend picks to trade up and draft him. Perhaps the Pats didn't value Keeks as much as was rumored. After all, Keeks is an MLB in a 4-3 (as opposed to the normal Pats D of a 3-4). Nonetheless, I agree with what you are saying... too often the Pats (who have been that 1 player away from winning it all) have settled for depth and value. There is nothing wrong with that being your normal strategy. But, once in a while you need to make that splash when you are certain of a projected player.

[EagleDave]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Maybe Monday. Hingham Little League has a big weekend ahead, Spaz is preparing by taking a 3 day weekend.

[claver2010]

Apparently, the Pats covet Luke:

https://twitter.com/#!/RapSheet/status/ ... 3360765952

What does it say?

Pointless, what they're going to package both their 1s plus to get him? Nope

Are you saying they shouldn't package their picks at the very end of the first round to grab one of the best 7 talents in the draft (Luck, RG3, Kalil, Blackmon, Richardson, Keeks and Claiborne)? I completely disagree. With the salary structure in place, those early round picks are much, much, MUCH more valuable than they were just a couple of years ago.

Sorry just saw this.

There was no chance the Pats would've done this it's completely against everything we've seen from Belichick & the draft

Moving from 27 to 21, not a huge deal. Moving from 27 to 8, huge deal

[HJS]

The Pats old theory of stockpiling later picks worked great in the old world where teams killed their cap by drafting kids high. But, this is a different world now with the much needed rookie structure. You will once again start to see the natural progression of teams rising and falling (which is what the NFL always meant to have happen via the draft). These last 5-10 years saw teams at the top and bottom languish mainly because the draft was killing the worst teams.

Thats said, the Pats ultimately got into the whole trading up swing of things. To get Jones they traded a 3rd to move 6 spots. Strangely, to get Hightower, they traded only a 4th to move up 10.

Is it me or does this draft simply underwhelm with talent? The top 7 players seem excellent. You might make a case for an additional 5 or so as legit first rounders. But, outside of that, I am incredibly underwhelmed. Perhaps, it was because so many kids left school early trying to beat the salary imposition.

[RegalBCeagle]

While the point about the rookie scale is true, I don't think I'd be willing to trade 27/31 for a pick in the 10-12 range.

Unfortunately the Pats will trade 1 of those picks for future picks (probably the team's #1 next year and their #3 or #4 next year) and use the other of the two picks to take either an OL or a TE, even though they clearly need a pass rusher and/or secondary help.

One of these f-ing years Belichichick will go for a top flight guy instead of the f-ing "value" that has kept them a few plays away from winning another Superbowl.

As I posted before the draft, with the new salary structure in place, if you see a player you like, you spend picks to trade up and draft him. Perhaps the Pats didn't value Keeks as much as was rumored. After all, Keeks is an MLB in a 4-3 (as opposed to the normal Pats D of a 3-4). Nonetheless, I agree with what you are saying... too often the Pats (who have been that 1 player away from winning it all) have settled for depth and value. There is nothing wrong with that being your normal strategy. But, once in a while you need to make that splash when you are certain of a projected player.

I reverse-psychologied Belichick into trading up twice with their first two picks, and taking a pass-rushing DE and a LB. This goes against everything they've done during their stretch of success. Let's hope they've strengthened areas of weakness and these picks pay off.

[bignick33]

While the point about the rookie scale is true, I don't think I'd be willing to trade 27/31 for a pick in the 10-12 range.

Unfortunately the Pats will trade 1 of those picks for future picks (probably the team's #1 next year and their #3 or #4 next year) and use the other of the two picks to take either an OL or a TE, even though they clearly need a pass rusher and/or secondary help.

One of these f-ing years Belichichick will go for a top flight guy instead of the f-ing "value" that has kept them a few plays away from winning another Superbowl.

As I posted before the draft, with the new salary structure in place, if you see a player you like, you spend picks to trade up and draft him. Perhaps the Pats didn't value Keeks as much as was rumored. After all, Keeks is an MLB in a 4-3 (as opposed to the normal Pats D of a 3-4). Nonetheless, I agree with what you are saying... too often the Pats (who have been that 1 player away from winning it all) have settled for depth and value. There is nothing wrong with that being your normal strategy. But, once in a while you need to make that splash when you are certain of a projected player.

I reverse-psychologied Belichick into trading up twice with their first two picks, and taking a pass-rushing DE and a LB. This goes against everything they've done during their stretch of success. Let's hope they've strengthened areas of weakness and these picks pay off.

HJS nailed it. Their entire drafting history was on a different playing field. And with a larger window.

[branchinator]

I'm with HJS. This draft's talent pool hasn't exactly wowed me. I like the Pats' picks but they look like 2nd round talents in a good draft year. Both guys look skilled but neither looks very explosive.

[flyingelvii]

The Pats old theory of stockpiling later picks worked great in the old world where teams killed their cap by drafting kids high. But, this is a different world now with the much needed rookie structure. You will once again start to see the natural progression of teams rising and falling (which is what the NFL always meant to have happen via the draft). These last 5-10 years saw teams at the top and bottom languish mainly because the draft was killing the worst teams.

Thats said, the Pats ultimately got into the whole trading up swing of things. To get Jones they traded a 3rd to move 6 spots. Strangely, to get Hightower, they traded only a 4th to move up 10.

Is it me or does this draft simply underwhelm with talent? The top 7 players seem excellent. You might make a case for an additional 5 or so as legit first rounders. But, outside of that, I am incredibly underwhelmed. Perhaps, it was because so many kids left school early trying to beat the salary imposition.

Pretty much this. I know it's arrogant and cliched but Belichick is generally ahead of most everyone in terms of personnel. The joke was that he kept drafting TEs, well that worked out well.

Fuck the Devils. That is all.

[pick6pedro]

I'm with HJS. This draft's talent pool hasn't exactly wowed me. I like the Pats' picks but they look like 2nd round talents in a good draft year. Both guys look skilled but neither looks very explosive.

I was thinking the same thing.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Maybe Monday. Hingham Little League has a big weekend ahead, Spaz is preparing by taking a 3 day weekend.

Yeeeeaaaaahhhh... I dunno..... Tuesday is May Day, it's gonna to be kinda tight fitting in all those calls in on Monday. Better wait until Wednesday, less schedule pressure.

[claver2010]

The Jets pick scares me




That thing on his arm? Looks like it hurts

[HustlinOwl]

I guess I'm transitively famous today. My daughter graduated High School with Shea McClellin(graduating class of about 40 people). Boise State was his only offer.

[branchinator]

That's one nasty, puffy branding on Coples' arm. He'll be the most explosive pass rusher the Jets have had since Vernon Gholston.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Oh my God, no bullshit, from today's Globe:

The choice by the Panthers drew praise from BC coach Frank Spaziani. “A great choice,’’ he said. “He will be perfect for them. And it was the perfect pick for me as well since it came two minutes before my bedtime.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/a ... orts_links

[DavidGordonsFoot]

That's one nasty, puffy branding on Coples' arm. He'll be the most explosive pass rusher the Jets have had since Vernon Gholston.

How many times do these guys get branded to make it that puffy? No way it scars up like that after one branding.

[pick6pedro]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Oh my God, no bullshit, from today's Globe:

The choice by the Panthers drew praise from BC coach Frank Spaziani. “A great choice,’’ he said. “He will be perfect for them. And it was the perfect pick for me as well since it came two minutes before my bedtime.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/a ... orts_links

Nothing like Spaz validating everything we joke about.

[claver2010]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Oh my God, no bullshit, from today's Globe:

The choice by the Panthers drew praise from BC coach Frank Spaziani. “A great choice,’’ he said. “He will be perfect for them. And it was the perfect pick for me as well since it came two minutes before my bedtime.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/a ... orts_links

Oh my God.

I had the draft on my comp and really wasn't paying attention as the Rangers were on but wasn't he picked around 9:00? Jesus

[HJS]

Chances spaz is on the horn with recruits trying to leverage this news

Maybe tomorrow - Spaz has been asleep for two hours already!

Oh my God, no bullshit, from today's Globe:

The choice by the Panthers drew praise from BC coach Frank Spaziani. “A great choice,’’ he said. “He will be perfect for them. And it was the perfect pick for me as well since it came two minutes before my bedtime.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/a ... orts_links

Nothing like Spaz validating everything we joke about.

I give Spaz credit for staying up that late. According to folks in attendance at Wall Street Council Dinner, GDF couldn't make it as long.

[branchinator]

That's one nasty, puffy branding on Coples' arm. He'll be the most explosive pass rusher the Jets have had since Vernon Gholston.

How many times do these guys get branded to make it that puffy? No way it scars up like that after one branding.

Must be a lot. My branding isn't nearly as puffy as Coples'.