Commits/Recruiting

[HJS]

I agree with your list of potential recruits BC was unquestionably targeting who were realistic based on the last 20+ years of BC recruiting (Tarczewski is pushing it). I'd probably add Niang and Tebbutt. My issue is people who conflate Anthony January, Nerlins Noel, Kris Dunn and Ledo into that list. I like that the team makes an attempt to go after big time players we have not historically had success with. I don't think it should then be turned around as, "well even though BC has never gotten a player of Kris Dunn's on paper quality, missing him equates to recruiting weakness."

As to where the signees fell on the priority list, can you tell me where last year's class that the sane posters on here were happy about fell on BC's relative recruiting priority list, or any Skinner class other than 2007? I'd also suggest that Hanlan is clearly below Arcidiacono on the priority list, but who else? No one realistic, I guess you could say Dunn and Ledo, again I'd say you were pushing it. With that said, I say saying Hanlan is a long way down BC's recruiting priority list is bullshit.

Kris Dunn was the most talked about player over the Spring and Summer. I believe at one point people were hyperventillating over a visit he was scheduling. Just because he ultimately chose a school we could never hope to compete against (Providence), doesn't mean he wasn't an option for the staff. Clearly, you have your own subjective view of what counts as BC having interest and what doesn't.

As for Hanlan, BC's interest in him came up in September. That's pretty late in the recruiting cycle. BTW... there was apparently good reason for it as New Hampton's coach wasn't all that thrilled with Hanlan and really pushed him hard. Apparently, a light went off during his Senior season and he has been marvelous. As someone posted earlier, Rahon technically had the better offer sheet.

[eagle9903]

I agree with your list of potential recruits BC was unquestionably targeting who were realistic based on the last 20+ years of BC recruiting (Tarczewski is pushing it). I'd probably add Niang and Tebbutt. My issue is people who conflate Anthony January, Nerlins Noel, Kris Dunn and Ledo into that list. I like that the team makes an attempt to go after big time players we have not historically had success with. I don't think it should then be turned around as, "well even though BC has never gotten a player of Kris Dunn's on paper quality, missing him equates to recruiting weakness."

As to where the signees fell on the priority list, can you tell me where last year's class that the sane posters on here were happy about fell on BC's relative recruiting priority list, or any Skinner class other than 2007? I'd also suggest that Hanlan is clearly below Arcidiacono on the priority list, but who else? No one realistic, I guess you could say Dunn and Ledo, again I'd say you were pushing it. With that said, I say saying Hanlan is a long way down BC's recruiting priority list is bullshit.

Kris Dunn was the most talked about player over the Spring and Summer. I believe at one point people were hyperventillating over a visit he was scheduling. Just because he ultimately chose a school we could never hope to compete against (Providence), doesn't mean he wasn't an option for the staff. Clearly, you have your own subjective view of what counts as BC having interest and what doesn't.

As for Hanlan, BC's interest in him came up in September. That's pretty late in the recruiting cycle. BTW... there was apparently good reason for it as New Hampton's coach wasn't all that thrilled with Hanlan and really pushed him hard. Apparently, a light went off during his Senior season and he has been marvelous. As someone posted earlier, Rahon technically had the better offer sheet.

So because eepstein and shaddix thought we were getting a guy over the summer it means it is a loss(as opposed to something that was never going to happen) when we don't get him? I find that confusing.

[HJS]

You literally took every name that any poster has mentioned in this thread. Nice work. To nitpick you have Torian Graham in two categories and you have Tony Gill in the not offered category with potential walkon Joe Bramanti.

Out of your list of lost players I don't really recognize the following names, I'm not saying they're not in this thread just that I think considering them losses is high idiocy: Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Kamari Murphy, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Joseph McDonald, JaCorey Williams and Madison Jones.

I don't know if Tony Gill has an offer. If Gill opts for some school on the West Coast, you will be the first to cry about Gill being the first group and ask for PROOF he had a commitable offer. The fact that you dismiss many players that staff met with and some that even visited BC just shows how clownshoes your subjectiveness is on this issue. Prove to me that BC didn't recruit hard the aforementioned players.

You really are a piss-poor substitute for OJ as the board certified contrarian.

[HJS]

What are hoops experts like TWood saying on EA? Is he as head-over-heels in love with recruiting since Joe Jones left?

Did you get his post "PM'd" to you already?

I do now...

I've been cautiously optimistic and I've stayed away from the "how many guards are we gonna take" talk, but a transfer from Iona who averaged 5ppg...are you shitting me? I'm yet to hear anything good from or about any recruit in the class of 2013, the last few guys who we've hosted in the class of 2012 are apparently no longer options.

I was in the "Bones" camp in the poll recently posted and my concerns are only growing. I think Coach D can coach and I really like the frosh class on campus, but I don't think this staff has satisfied its needs in the class of 2012. Now, to cover that up, we're looking at a kid who couldn't even get burn at Iona? We've got issues...

Did you ask him for PROOF!!!!

[eagle9903]

You literally took every name that any poster has mentioned in this thread. Nice work. To nitpick you have Torian Graham in two categories and you have Tony Gill in the not offered category with potential walkon Joe Bramanti.

Out of your list of lost players I don't really recognize the following names, I'm not saying they're not in this thread just that I think considering them losses is high idiocy: Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Kamari Murphy, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Joseph McDonald, JaCorey Williams and Madison Jones.

I don't know if Tony Gill has an offer. If Gill opts for some school on the West Coast, you will be the first to cry about Gill being the first group and ask for PROOF he had a commitable offer. The fact that you dismiss many players that staff met with and some that even visited BC just shows how clownshoes your subjectiveness is on this issue. Prove to me that BC didn't recruit hard the aforementioned players.

You really are a piss-poor substitute for OJ as the board certified contrarian.

Prove to me they did, you're the one who is making the argument the staff missed on 11 billion recruits. I'm saying its dumb to lump a lot of them, who I guarantee you can't show the staff met with, into this group. Shit, half these guys got a letter, told recruiting asshole A that he had a BC offer along with the rest of his list, Recruiting asshole A tweeted the information and Poster asshole B put it here.

[BCEaglesFan]

Ennis and Reischel updates:

@AdamZagoria After visiting VCU this wknd, Rice's Jarelle Reischel will also visit Iona, Rhody and BC. BC set for May 4.

@JerryRatcliffe UVa hoops recruiting: Rice transfer PG Dylan Ennis said he wants to play in a fast-paced offense that features guards. Will that hurt UVa?

I wouldn't rule Ennis, as the Don did say he wanted a up-tempo offense eventually.

BC should beat every one of those schools for Reischel (though losing to Shaka Smart wouldn't be so bad)

[HJS]

You literally took every name that any poster has mentioned in this thread. Nice work. To nitpick you have Torian Graham in two categories and you have Tony Gill in the not offered category with potential walkon Joe Bramanti.

Out of your list of lost players I don't really recognize the following names, I'm not saying they're not in this thread just that I think considering them losses is high idiocy: Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Kamari Murphy, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Joseph McDonald, JaCorey Williams and Madison Jones.

I don't know if Tony Gill has an offer. If Gill opts for some school on the West Coast, you will be the first to cry about Gill being the first group and ask for PROOF he had a commitable offer. The fact that you dismiss many players that staff met with and some that even visited BC just shows how clownshoes your subjectiveness is on this issue. Prove to me that BC didn't recruit hard the aforementioned players.

You really are a piss-poor substitute for OJ as the board certified contrarian.

Prove to me they did, you're the one who is making the argument the staff missed on 11 billion recruits. I'm saying its dumb to lump a lot of them, who I guarantee you can't show the staff met with, into this group. Shit, half these guys got a letter, told recruiting asshole A that he had a BC offer along with the rest of his list, Recruiting asshole A tweeted the information and Poster asshole B put it here.

Michael Orris didn't visit once... he visited twice. I look at that... look at the rest of your purely subjective list and simply call the whole thing dumb.

[bignick33]

Tebbutt represented the last great hope that this class would be solid and compliment that of last year's. If TOS is correct and BC ain't happening (after it ain't happening with a ton of other last minute Hail Mary recruits like Taylor), then this class disappoints.

That said, Ennis and Reischel would go a very long way to healing everyone's concerns.

Smyth apparently isn't just a possibility, but has become a huge priority for the staff. Essentially, we will be substituting Hump for Smyth. That is a terrible trade in my opinion.

In all honesty... I get the impression that the staff is flailing around a bit. They seem to be desperately grabbing at anyone who could play the level of the Ivies and up. They haven't been particularly successful in their efforts to land any of their primary targets. Now, they are focusing on players who will do little more than serve as practice players and towel waivers. That bothers me.

Here's the thing, unless you are somehow footing the bill for the scholarships, Smyth is the definition of low risk. He will be gone by March 2013. That shouldn't effect anything one way or another. If he was even going to have 2 years of eligibility I'd be worried about this, but if its sign him or have empty scholarships it's fine by me.

Can you do me a favor and list who the primary targets were that were lost, so I know who you're talking about. I don't like just assuming something to be true because its repeated frequently on message boards. I know there are some. I just want to clarify who we "lost" and who we actually lost.

To list only the most obvious players whom BC was unquestionably targeting:

Ryan Arcidiacono
Zach Auguste
Sherron Dorsey-Walker
Jake Layman
Kaleb Tarczewski

This list could be greatly expanded with many players (e.g., Kris Dunn) whom BC was certainly interested in but with whom they didn't even get to first base. Hanlan and Rahon were both a long way down BC's recruiting priority list. If this isn't weak recruiting, I'd like to know how you define it.

I went back and read through this thread since May 2011. Most of what I read was for the first time (as I didn’t start following this thread until Early Signing Day). I find it interesting that there was a TON of skepticism over Don’s ability to recruit sans Joe Jones. I don’t think the ultimate results have pacified these concerns.

Nonetheless, looking over a few sources, here are guys our staff supposedly made plays for: Malik Morgan, Ryan Arcidiacono, Kaleb Tarczewski, Jake Layman, Zach Auguste, Kris Dunn, Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Torian Graham, Sherron Dorsey-Walker, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Devin Thomas, Daniel Dingle, Kamari Murphy, Steve Vasturia, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Langston Morris-Walker, Chris Bolden, Blaise Mbargorba, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Chris Reyes, Joseph McDonald, Georges Niang, JaCorey Williams, Madison Jones, Ryan Taylor, William Howard and Jordan Tebbutt,

This does not include the following, who have (at one point or another) been players we expressed some interest in (though may have dropped out early or never offered): Charles Mann, Ricky Ledo, Nerlens Noel, Johnny Woodard, Jordan Chatman, Terrell Rogers, Charles Cooke, Katin Reinhardt Barnett Harris, Adam Woodbury, Jerome Hairston, Ian Baker, Marc-Eddy Noriela, Darren Payen, Nizar Kapic, Amedeo Della Valle, Jerron Wilbut, Ryan Oliver, Torian Graham, Stephen Croone, Clyde Smith, Matt Shrigley, Brandon Pargo, Tony Gill, Joe Bramanti and Anthony January.

While going through the threads, here are some players we have already offered for future classes. I figured I'd begin this list for the eventuality when we miss out on each and 9903 gets to pretend we didn't show interest...
Class of 2013: Castro, Jaylen Brantley, Brannen Greene; Nick Gorski, Tyler Ennis, Stephen Domingo, Nick Madray, Conner Frankamp, Travis Jorgenson, Matt Thomas, Davon Reed, Maurice Taylor, Goodluck Okonoboh, Alec Wintering, Nolan Berry, Anthony Dallier, Peter Miller, Marcus Lee, Andrew Chrabascz, Jeremiah Worthem, Jalen Norman, Rj Curington, Reggie Cameron and Anton Wilson
Class of 2014: Jared Terrell, Noah Vonleh, Wayne Selden, Jacquil Taylor, Luke Fischer, Kahari Beaufort, Johnnie Vassar, Ja'Quan Newton', Kaleb Joseph and Neumann Goretti

Nuemann Goretti is a high school.

Is this kind of like dead people voting?

[HJS]

Ennis and Reischel updates:

@AdamZagoria After visiting VCU this wknd, Rice's Jarelle Reischel will also visit Iona, Rhody and BC. BC set for May 4.

@JerryRatcliffe UVa hoops recruiting: Rice transfer PG Dylan Ennis said he wants to play in a fast-paced offense that features guards. Will that hurt UVa?

I wouldn't rule Ennis, as the Don did say he wanted a up-tempo offense eventually.

BC should beat every one of those schools for Reischel (though losing to Shaka Smart wouldn't be so bad)

9903 doesn't recognize this. Prove to him that BC really is recruiting Reischel and Ennis and this isn't some sort of conspiracy you and some tweeters have cobbled together to make him feel disappointed in his Don.

[eagle9903]

You literally took every name that any poster has mentioned in this thread. Nice work. To nitpick you have Torian Graham in two categories and you have Tony Gill in the not offered category with potential walkon Joe Bramanti.

Out of your list of lost players I don't really recognize the following names, I'm not saying they're not in this thread just that I think considering them losses is high idiocy: Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Kamari Murphy, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Joseph McDonald, JaCorey Williams and Madison Jones.

I don't know if Tony Gill has an offer. If Gill opts for some school on the West Coast, you will be the first to cry about Gill being the first group and ask for PROOF he had a commitable offer. The fact that you dismiss many players that staff met with and some that even visited BC just shows how clownshoes your subjectiveness is on this issue. Prove to me that BC didn't recruit hard the aforementioned players.

You really are a piss-poor substitute for OJ as the board certified contrarian.

Prove to me they did, you're the one who is making the argument the staff missed on 11 billion recruits. I'm saying its dumb to lump a lot of them, who I guarantee you can't show the staff met with, into this group. Shit, half these guys got a letter, told recruiting asshole A that he had a BC offer along with the rest of his list, Recruiting asshole A tweeted the information and Poster asshole B put it here.

Michael Orris didn't visit once... he visited twice. I look at that... look at the rest of your purely subjective list and simply call the whole thing dumb.

First, he's one guy on the list and I'm sure there are a few more that fall into that category just as I'm sure several more are nowhere near that level of involvement. Also are you sure he went twice? Not that it matters other than to show your typical high and loose attitude towards facts, he made an unofficial but then "After making an official visit to Nebraska and scheduling stops at Boston College and Virginia, Orris chose Illinois."

[apbc12]

I christen this slapfight the Crossing of the Delaware.

[HJS]

You literally took every name that any poster has mentioned in this thread. Nice work. To nitpick you have Torian Graham in two categories and you have Tony Gill in the not offered category with potential walkon Joe Bramanti.

Out of your list of lost players I don't really recognize the following names, I'm not saying they're not in this thread just that I think considering them losses is high idiocy: Brian Bermadi, James Robinson, Kale Abrahamson, Mike Gesell, Allen Huddleston, Devon Walker, Kamari Murphy, Buddy Hield, Alex Caruso, Javontae Hawkins, Terry Henderson, Travis Hammond, Michael Orris, Mike LaTulip, Jelon Hornbeak, Ben Carter, Joseph McDonald, JaCorey Williams and Madison Jones.

I don't know if Tony Gill has an offer. If Gill opts for some school on the West Coast, you will be the first to cry about Gill being the first group and ask for PROOF he had a commitable offer. The fact that you dismiss many players that staff met with and some that even visited BC just shows how clownshoes your subjectiveness is on this issue. Prove to me that BC didn't recruit hard the aforementioned players.

You really are a piss-poor substitute for OJ as the board certified contrarian.

Prove to me they did, you're the one who is making the argument the staff missed on 11 billion recruits. I'm saying its dumb to lump a lot of them, who I guarantee you can't show the staff met with, into this group. Shit, half these guys got a letter, told recruiting asshole A that he had a BC offer along with the rest of his list, Recruiting asshole A tweeted the information and Poster asshole B put it here.

Michael Orris didn't visit once... he visited twice. I look at that... look at the rest of your purely subjective list and simply call the whole thing dumb.

First, he's one guy on the list and I'm sure there are a few more that fall into that category just as I'm sure several more are nowhere near that level of involvement. Also are you sure he went twice? Not that it matters other than to show your typical high and loose attitude towards facts, he made an unofficial but then "After making an official visit to Nebraska and scheduling stops at Boston College and Virginia, Orris chose Illinois."

Does it matter if he visited campus once or twice? Whose to say we invited him to visit. It could have been purely unsolicited. Many kids visit BC as juniors that have no chance in hell of attending. He did not sign a Letter of Intent... as such, there is no PROOF BC was ever remotely interested in him joining their basketball team.

[eagle9903]

Here's how this works.

HJS makes an absurd over the top assertion because it tangentially means that Gene DeFillipo is wrong about something. For instance he supports the position that recruiting results equal lack of recruiting emphasis or effort or that Jordan Tebbutt committing elsewhere means this year's class is doomed unequivocally. I counter the absurd comment because it is stupid and obviously wrong on its face. HJS misstates several facts a whole bunch of times and tries to frame his argument in some way in which it makes it look like I'm supporting Gene or happy with a 9-22 season. I allow the argument to drift all over the place because it is funny to me.

[eagle9903]

I christen this slapfight the Crossing of the Delaware.

look Rutgers red.

[HJS]

Here's how this works.

HJS makes an absurd over the top assertion because it tangentially means that Gene DeFillipo is wrong about something. For instance he supports the position that recruiting results equal lack of recruiting emphasis or effort or that Jordan Tebbutt committing elsewhere means this year's class is doomed unequivocally. I counter the absurd comment because it is stupid and obviously wrong on its face. HJS misstates several facts a whole bunch of times and tries to frame his argument in some way in which it makes it look like I'm supporting Gene or happy with a 9-22 season. I allow the argument to drift all over the place because it is funny to me.

You used to have a better way of phrasing it when you posted as DominOJ1969.

[angrychicken]

Here's how this works.

HJS makes an absurd over the top assertion because it tangentially means that Gene DeFillipo is wrong about something. For instance he supports the position that recruiting results equal lack of recruiting emphasis or effort or that Jordan Tebbutt committing elsewhere means this year's class is doomed unequivocally. I counter the absurd comment because it is stupid and obviously wrong on its face. HJS misstates several facts a whole bunch of times and tries to frame his argument in some way in which it makes it look like I'm supporting Gene or happy with a 9-22 season. I allow the argument to drift all over the place because it is funny to me.

You used to have a better way of phrasing it when you posted as DominOJ1969.

Don't mind me. I'm just here to see who calls the other one a merryman first. Carry on.

[eepstein0]

As much fun as this is, we still don't have a decent PF who can rebound or wing who can create their own shot.

Tony Gill didn't get a single offer from the PAC-12 or WCC yet he played at a JUCO in California. I don't view that as a particularly good sign.

[twballgame9]

I can't decide which I hate more, HJS being blatantly correct, or people arguing over the relative degree of shittiness in the BC hoop recruiting. Newsflash, shit is shit.

[eepstein0]

I can't decide which I hate more, HJS being blatantly correct, or people arguing over the relative degree of shittiness in the BC hoop recruiting. Newsflash, shit is shit.

It's hard agreeing with HJS a lot on here also. Sad days.

[eagle9903]

This thread would be a lot better if the last few posts had read:

I'm hearing that this is a shitty recruiting class.

This will be the shittiest recruiting class ever.

This recruiting class doesn't have a single ACC player.

[BCEaglesFan]

Now that I think about it, getting a recruit would mess up everything. Getting Gill makes sense.

Stevie D wants to be a team like Wisconsin, Northwestern, teams with a bunch of White/European unathletic but smart dudes that are fitting his system.

Getting a recruit means BC gets 2, only 2 recruits in the next 2 classes. You can have a minimum of 13 guys on scoliles. Gill makes a lot more sense because BC doesn't have a backup 4 and BC can get 4 players in the next 2 classes.

Let's look at each player's skills-
PG Daniels-2 star recruit-Up and down season, solid player
SG Jackson-3 star recruit-Great shooter, not good defender, just needs to add bulk
SF Heckmann-3 star recruit-Looked like BC's future STUD till his ankles and knees got hurt and he got mono
PF Anderson-4 star recruit-STUD
C Clifford-2 star recruit-Potential for STUD status if he bulks up and gets rebounds
C Caudill-3 star recruit-Needs to lose weight but could be a solid player
SF Odio-2 star recruit-athletic ability but nothing else
PG Moton-2 star recruit-Good defensive player, hard worker, smart, I still don't understand why all of you guys hate him so much. He's a decent backup. Cotton at PC sucked on d, better o yes, but not better d (as did everyone at PC besides Kofane)

Basically this group right here's ceiling is probably a bubble team.

Now let's look at the incoming recruits so far:
PG Hanlan-Slasher, smart player, good shooter, could be our future at PG
SG Rahon-Shooter, avg. a lot of point in HS an is a smart player

And now let's look at potential tranfers:
SG/SF Dragicevich-Shooter, heady player, knows what he's doing and makes brilliant plays sometimes eepstein you didn't see some of the games I saw I'd take him on scollie
SF Reischel-Athletic and a very good shooter. Would definitely be a good addition and will visit May 4. HAS PLAYED WITH HECKMANN BEFORE.
PG Ennis-Good friends with Reischel and would fit BC. Athletic and is a good shooter.
PF Gill-Slow, but shot 38% from 3 and got 10 rebounds per game. BC needs rebounding.
SG Smyth-Actually averaged 10 PPG before Momo Jones arrived at Iona. Is basically another shooter. Not as bad as I thought. Still don't want him as much as the other guys though.

Remember guys Humphrey only had one year left.

Don't give up on that 2011 class. The guys I listed here are just added for depth, and I think that class, along with a transfer and or guy that can play right away, can be a NCAA Tournament team.

And for all the guys that say BC needs athletes, I look at the Wisconsin team this year, who had no athletes that can play above the rim and basically had guys that were smart 3 point shooters, almost beat Cuse and should've gone to the Elite 8.

[RedBaron67]

Stevie D wants to be a team like Wisconsin, Northwestern, teams with a bunch of White/European unathletic but smart dudes that are fitting his system.

Wisconsin is about ultra-stingy defense and valuing the ball as if it were a giant diamond -- not what Donahue's system is about.

Northwestern has (still) never made the NCAA tournament.

Your comparisons do not engender confidence in the current BC program.

[eepstein0]

Stevie D wants to be a team like Wisconsin, Northwestern, teams with a bunch of White/European unathletic but smart dudes that are fitting his system.

Wisconsin is about ultra-stingy defense and valuing the ball as if it were a giant diamond -- not what Donahue's system is about.

Northwestern has (still) never made the NCAA tournament.

Your comparisons do not engender confidence in the current BC program.

Maryland pulled another top 100 recruit yesterday. BC meanwhile is freaking out about a kid who goes to Iona and another who's best offer is UC-Riverside.

[BCEaglesFan]

Recruiting news: @Tsbiet_NPH Boston College now showing interest in Jadon Cohee (2014 6'3 Guard/ Walnut Grove) who will be on the circuit with @DRIVEBasketball

How can you say this class sucks if you said a few months ago it was solid?!!!! BC didn't lose anybody!

Patience is a virtue, my friends.

[eepstein0]

Jarrod Uthoff is transferring from Wisconsin. Gatorade POY from Iowa last year.

He would go absolutely bonkers in Donahue's system. He's really more a perimeter PF but is 6'8" and a great shooter. If we're going to pursue a transfer big man, please go after this kid. Perfect fit for this offense.

[eagle9903]

Stevie D wants to be a team like Wisconsin, Northwestern, teams with a bunch of White/European unathletic but smart dudes that are fitting his system.

Wisconsin is about ultra-stingy defense and valuing the ball as if it were a giant diamond -- not what Donahue's system is about.

Northwestern has (still) never made the NCAA tournament.

Your comparisons do not engender confidence in the current BC program.

Maryland pulled another top 100 recruit yesterday. BC meanwhile is freaking out about a kid who goes to Iona and another who's best offer is UC-Riverside.

Will you please stop pretending that prior to this year half the other ACC schools didn't routinely pull top 100 recruits each year and BC was pretty successful with guys who's best offers were places like nowhere?

[eagle9903]

Jarrod Uthoff is transferring from Wisconsin. Gatorade POY from Iowa last year.

He would go absolutely bonkers in Donahue's system. He's really more a perimeter PF but is 6'8" and a great shooter. If we're going to pursue a transfer big man, please go after this kid. Perfect fit for this offense.

Mark it - Jarrod Uthoff is now officially a loss if he doesn't sign with BC, he's in the thread.

[Nate2651]

I agree with your list of potential recruits BC was unquestionably targeting who were realistic based on the last 20+ years of BC recruiting (Tarczewski is pushing it). I'd probably add Niang and Tebbutt. My issue is people who conflate Anthony January, Nerlins Noel, Kris Dunn and Ledo into that list. I like that the team makes an attempt to go after big time players we have not historically had success with. I don't think it should then be turned around as, "well even though BC has never gotten a player of Kris Dunn's on paper quality, missing him equates to recruiting weakness."

As to where the signees fell on the priority list, can you tell me where last year's class that the sane posters on here were happy about fell on BC's relative recruiting priority list, or any Skinner class other than 2007? I'd also suggest that Hanlan is clearly below Arcidiacono on the priority list, but who else? No one realistic, I guess you could say Dunn and Ledo, again I'd say you were pushing it. With that said, I say saying Hanlan is a long way down BC's recruiting priority list is bullshit.

Kris Dunn was the most talked about player over the Spring and Summer. I believe at one point people were hyperventillating over a visit he was scheduling. Just because he ultimately chose a school we could never hope to compete against (Providence), doesn't mean he wasn't an option for the staff. Clearly, you have your own subjective view of what counts as BC having interest and what doesn't.

As for Hanlan, BC's interest in him came up in September. That's pretty late in the recruiting cycle. BTW... there was apparently good reason for it as New Hampton's coach wasn't all that thrilled with Hanlan and really pushed him hard. Apparently, a light went off during his Senior season and he has been marvelous. As someone posted earlier, Rahon technically had the better offer sheet.

Not for nothing HJS but thats 100% wrong. BC started recruiting Hanlan when he was a junior....they didnt come in late on him

[BCEaglesFan]

Jarrod Uthoff is transferring from Wisconsin. Gatorade POY from Iowa last year.

He would go absolutely bonkers in Donahue's system. He's really more a perimeter PF but is 6'8" and a great shooter. If we're going to pursue a transfer big man, please go after this kid. Perfect fit for this offense.

Mark it - Jarrod Uthoff is now officially a loss if he doesn't sign with BC, he's in the thread.

Yeah I know right?

Uthoff was one of the first players Don ever offered, so it's possible they reach out to him.

[BCEaglesFan]

@TheRecruitScoop RT @scott_chihoops 2012 PG Michael Orris will not attend Illinois and is re-opening his recruitment.

Well then. Let's see if the Don makes a move here.