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Moton out.

Postby cvilleagle on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:29 pm

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Re: Moton out.

Postby claver2010 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:31 pm

Just saw that, odd to say the least.

Need a (some) JUCO(s)
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:35 pm

Not surprised.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:39 pm

2012-13
Seniors: none
Juniors: none
Sophomores: Ryan Anderson, Dennis Clifford, Jordan Daniels, Lonnie Jackson, KC Caudill, Patrick Heckmann, Eddie Odio
Freshman: Joe Rahon, Olivier Hanlan

4 scholarships not used.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby Bunratty on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:39 pm

With Moton and Humps gone, this is a fantastic opportunity for The Don to significantly upgrade the talent level. Let's see if he can do it.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby claver2010 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:40 pm

eagle9903 wrote:2012-13
Seniors: none
Juniors: none
Sophomores: Ryan Anderson, Dennis Clifford, Jordan Daniels, Lonnie Jackson, KC Caudill, Patrick Heckmann, Eddie Odio
Freshman: Joe Rahon, Olivier Hanlan

4 scholarships not used.


Isn't Rubin on scholarship?
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Re: Moton out.

Postby bchockey04 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:41 pm

eagle9903 wrote:2012-13
Seniors: none
Juniors: none
Sophomores: Ryan Anderson, Dennis Clifford, Jordan Daniels, Lonnie Jackson, KC Caudill, Patrick Heckmann, Eddie Odio
Freshman: Joe Rahon, Olivier Hanlan

4 scholarships not used.


If Rubin sticks around -- he'll probably get a scholarship for next year... :cheer
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Re: Moton out.

Postby HJS on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:41 pm

Makes the continued recruitment of Ennis and Orris make a lot more sense.

What ever happened to that Brady Heslip thread?
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:41 pm

claver2010 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:2012-13
Seniors: none
Juniors: none
Sophomores: Ryan Anderson, Dennis Clifford, Jordan Daniels, Lonnie Jackson, KC Caudill, Patrick Heckmann, Eddie Odio
Freshman: Joe Rahon, Olivier Hanlan

4 scholarships not used.


Isn't Rubin on scholarship?


nope.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby RedBaron67 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:00 pm

If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:10 pm

RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:13 pm

HJS wrote:What ever happened to that Brady Heslip thread?


You mean Kyle Smyth Jr.?

(this is not intended to be a serious comparison)
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Re: Moton out.

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:17 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?
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Re: Moton out.

Postby joeyfenn on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:33 pm

better fill these holes with some real talent.

I hope he goes for quality and not just bodies
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Re: Moton out.

Postby SJeagle09 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:18 pm

give Cain Carney a schollie!
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Re: Moton out.

Postby EagleDave on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:40 pm

Gabe Moton was atrocious and this doesn't matter. True story.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:04 pm

This isn't a big loss. We're all set at guard anyway.

I'd imagine he lands in the CAA or something, which is his correct level of basketball.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby MattTheEagle on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:13 pm

This is fine, it means we can take an additional player for 2013/2014. I really like our PG situation and Moton must not have wanted to have to compete against Hanlan/Daniels. I thought Moton was a nice contributor and I think after we landed Hanlan (who I think will be excellent for BC), Moton must have felt crowded out. My question is where Moton would go? If he wants to get playing time (or a scholarship) I am guessing he will go to a micromajor.

I still prefer us not taking a PG, but I guess if we get an elite guard who can play both PG and SG that could be good. Most importantly we need forwards (particularly someone who can play SF like Tebbutt). If we land, Tebbutt it would be a nice improvement of our roster and would give us a group I would feel very comfortable making some noise.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby BCEagles25 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:24 pm

I like Moton. that said, he wouldn't have seen much time between Daniels, Hanlan, and maybe Ennis. so... he benefits by going a mid-major, and we benefit with the extra spot. good luck Gabe.

with Moton and Humps gone, we've lost our two best defenders.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:10 am

BCEagles25 wrote:I like Moton. that said, he wouldn't have seen much time between Daniels, Hanlan, and maybe Ennis. so... he benefits by going a mid-major, and we benefit with the extra spot. good luck Gabe.

with Moton and Humps gone, we've lost our two best defenders.


There isn't going to be a whole lot of defense played this season for BC Basketball. Better hope the offense picks up.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby wildcat81 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:19 am

Good luck Moton, but he probably want be missed defensively, because once the current guys get stronger all of BC weaknesses will be solved.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:33 am

twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

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Re: Moton out.

Postby RedBaron67 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:36 am

eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby JimDog90 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:15 am

RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. It would have been nice to see Moton stay because he would have added depth; but I think everyone agrees that the expectation is that the incoming freshman guards better be more talented basketball players.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby RedBaron67 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:24 am

JimDog90 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. It would have been nice to see Moton stay because he would have added depth; but I think everyone agrees that the expectation is that the incoming freshman guards better be more talented basketball players.


Actually, there was a juco transfer PG at BC back in the Zuffelato era, but that was before the great public stink over the team's graduation rate. Since then, the academic gate keepers have made juco hoop transfers a practical impossibility; Gill must be very unusual in that respect for Donahue even to have taken a look at him.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby joeyfenn on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:14 am

Any word on where Moton will look?
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Re: Moton out.

Postby The Knife of Asia on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:12 pm

JimDog90 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. .

Xavier Singletary was a juco transfer.... He was also overhyped, and kind of crappy...
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Re: Moton out.

Postby eagle9903 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:13 pm

The Knife of Asia wrote:
JimDog90 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. .

Xavier Singletary was a juco transfer.... He was also overhyped, and kind of crappy...


Howard University is not a juco.
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Re: Moton out.

Postby carolina2010 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:15 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
The Knife of Asia wrote:
JimDog90 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. .

Xavier Singletary was a juco transfer.... He was also overhyped, and kind of crappy...


Howard University is not a juco.


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Re: Moton out.

Postby The Knife of Asia on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:15 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
The Knife of Asia wrote:
JimDog90 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
RedBaron67 wrote:If nothing else, this gives some hope of straightening out the fouled-up class distribution before the next decade.


doesn't this actually make it worse?


Really? They didn't add anyone to the heavy class and they freed up scholarships for the next two classes. Were you kidding?


I was missing a significant point, that being that some of the potential^ transfers (ennis, reischel) are current freshman and thus would end up in the recruiting class of 2012 with Hanlan and Rahon after sitting, I thought all the potential transfers were sophomores (and thus would end up recruiting class of 2011 and thus increase the glut Dragiecivic, Cotton etc. are this) or post grad guys who could play right away (end up recruiting class of 2009 and thus make no impact on the glut regardless of moton) for some reason. Furthermore, I think redbaron's point has more weight if there is potential to add a transfer to the recruiting class of 2010 that we hadn't been looking at because of Moton's presence but I don't think there are too many junior transfers.

^used generously


There are always juco transfers, of course, but that means getting someone substantially better than Tony Gill who can also qualify academically, so I'm not hopeful on that front.


Yeah, a juco hoops player at BC? I'll believe it when I see it. .

Xavier Singletary was a juco transfer.... He was also overhyped, and kind of crappy...


Howard University is not a juco.

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