Commits/Recruiting

[eagle9903]

I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I wish Travis Taylor was joining this class instead of going to Xavier. A 6'8" forward would be perfect. What did he do again? was it ?

I believe it was rumored to be

He would have played last year (even better). Damn.

[2001Eagle]

I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I wish Travis Taylor was joining this class instead of going to Xavier. A 6'8" forward would be perfect. What did he do again? was it ?

I believe it was rumored to be

He would have played last year (even better). Damn.

You are right, he played this season. Looks like he averaged around 4 rebounds a game, in 14 or so minutes of PT a game. Best game was an early season matchup against Georgia, where he had 12 boards in 25 minutes. He only played a total of about 15 minutes in 3 NCAA tourney games though.

Who knows, but you have to figure he could have played 25 min ppg for this BC team and given us 7 or 8 boards a game.

[eagleman99]

I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I wish Travis Taylor was joining this class instead of going to Xavier. A 6'8" forward would be perfect. What did he do again? was it ?

I believe it was rumored to be

He would have played last year (even better). Damn.

From what I recall, he had some off the court incident prior to transferring. He was less than truthful to the BC staff about the events that transpired. When it became known to the staff that he had been less than truthful, they told him he was no longer welcome.

[HJS]

In '12, Hanlan is a good get where Rahon makes no sense to me at all. How many 3 point specialists exactly do we need on this team? Rahon is a mirror image of Lonnie Jackson, who still looks to me like a one-dimensional player.

I'll take anyone that started for Oak Hill, since they went 44-0 he must be relatively good.

I would do cartwheels if Rahon is as good as LoJack. I absolutely love Jackson's game and think he's solid addition to any ACC program. Sadly, I don't think Rahon is going to be anywhere near as good.

[BCEagles25]

In '12, Hanlan is a good get where Rahon makes no sense to me at all. How many 3 point specialists exactly do we need on this team? Rahon is a mirror image of Lonnie Jackson, who still looks to me like a one-dimensional player.

I'll take anyone that started for Oak Hill, since they went 44-0 he must be relatively good.

I would do cartwheels if Rahon is as good as LoJack. I absolutely love Jackson's game and think he's solid addition to any ACC program. Sadly, I don't think Rahon is going to be anywhere near as good.

I agree on LoJack's value. I love what he does with and without the ball. I'm not doubting Rahon, I hope he's as good as his brother. taking him is a smart move, who knows what he's capable of after recovering from the knee injury.

[NJM89]

Why is everyone already down on Rahon he probably has a more impressive offer sheet than Hanlan with offers from Oregon, USC, Georgetown, San Diego State and Washington State. The kid can score and if his knee holds up, he can be a valuable member coming off the bench next year.

[eepstein0]

In '12, Hanlan is a good get where Rahon makes no sense to me at all. How many 3 point specialists exactly do we need on this team? Rahon is a mirror image of Lonnie Jackson, who still looks to me like a one-dimensional player.

I'll take anyone that started for Oak Hill, since they went 44-0 he must be relatively good.

I would do cartwheels if Rahon is as good as LoJack. I absolutely love Jackson's game and think he's solid addition to any ACC program. Sadly, I don't think Rahon is going to be anywhere near as good.

I agree on LoJack's value. I love what he does with and without the ball. I'm not doubting Rahon, I hope he's as good as his brother. taking him is a smart move, who knows what he's capable of after recovering from the knee injury.

I guess this is where I differ. Jackson is a shooter, but that's about the end of it. He struggles on defense and really struggles to handle the ball. His offensive game is totally one-dimensional.

The two things Lonnie has to do this off-season is work on his ball-handling and quickness. With better ball-handling and quickness off the dribble, he could blow by defenders when they close out on him. Right now defenders know that after they close on him, he can't beat you after that. Work on his ball-handling and I think he'd get 5 minutes a game at PG also.

[BCEaglesFan]

@DavidTeelatDP said he will visit Villanova this weekend, Cincinnati next. No other visits set, but hopes to tour #UVa, VT & BC

Dylan Ennis update.

[BCEaglesFan]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

[Nate2651]

i think it would suck if Rahon wasnt as good as Jackson. Im w eepstein, Lojack can shoot but not a lot else.

[bcmurph]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

Interesting on Gill...I had seen this message board post the other day...

Tony Gill (Antelope, CA - Cosumnes River College) 6'9" 225lbs SF/PF I understand that Wooldridge wants to recruit strictly high school players, but Gill is interested in attending UCR, along with Cal Poly and Northern Arizona. Gill has a big body, but can extend the floor and hit the 3 ball. Gill received interest from Boston College, but wanted to stay on the west coast. He plans to attend medical school once he finishes his undergraduate studies, and he is a very good student, carrying over a 3.5 GPA.

http://bigwest.yuku.com/topic/11601/Re-Recruiting-for-the-2012-2013-Season?page=-1#.T4Yr4tlmPMp

[Shaddix]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

Interesting on Gill...I had seen this message board post the other day...

Tony Gill (Antelope, CA - Cosumnes River College) 6'9" 225lbs SF/PF I understand that Wooldridge wants to recruit strictly high school players, but Gill is interested in attending UCR, along with Cal Poly and Northern Arizona. Gill has a big body, but can extend the floor and hit the 3 ball. Gill received interest from Boston College, but wanted to stay on the west coast. He plans to attend medical school once he finishes his undergraduate studies, and he is a very good student, carrying over a 3.5 GPA.

http://bigwest.yuku.com/topic/11601/Re-Recruiting-for-the-2012-2013-Season?page=-1#.T4Yr4tlmPMp

You don't turn down a visit to an ACC school when your being recruited by mid minors

[HJS]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

[eepstein0]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

This would be a full fledged disaster.

[eagle9903]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

[Shaddix]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

I'm in the same boat as you, Gill would be a solid addition and really wouldn't disrupt anything? Know nothing about Dragicevich, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was forced to play a certain way in Notre Dame's system.

[HJS]

I have no idea how anyone here can say Gill would be a great addition if they haven't seen him play. I haven't seen him play, so I look at his other interest... which is about as impressive as the schools who were recruiting me out of high school. I like his size, but other than the fact he wouldn't leech 4-years of eligibility, I'm not sure this qualifies as a solid close that Tebbutt would offer.

Gill and Dragicevich seem perfect recruits for Cornell. That bothers me.

[eagle9903]

I have no idea how anyone here can say Gill would be a great addition if they haven't seen him play. I haven't seen him play, so I look at his other interest... which is about as impressive as the schools who were recruiting me out of high school. I like his size, but other than the fact he wouldn't leech 4-years of eligibility, I'm not sure this qualifies as a solid close that Tebbutt would offer.

Gill and Dragicevich seem perfect recruits for Cornell. That bothers me.

could be a good addition =/ would be a great addition

[Shaddix]

I have no idea how anyone here can say Gill would be a great addition if they haven't seen him play. I haven't seen him play, so I look at his other interest... which is about as impressive as the schools who were recruiting me out of high school. I like his size, but other than the fact he wouldn't leech 4-years of eligibility, I'm not sure this qualifies as a solid close that Tebbutt would offer.

Gill and Dragicevich seem perfect recruits for Cornell. That bothers me.

He's 6'9 225. We don't need him to start. He can shoot, pass, and play in the low post. Remember, Pierre Jackson was Baylor's leading scorer this year, not Perry Jones. Jackson averaged 18.6ppg his last year at Southern Idaho. The other school that he was considering was Creighton.

Not too impressive either, eh?

[RedBaron67]

Gill's stats this season at Cosumnes River CC (!) were: 18.2 ppg (.539/.386/.780 [.628 2ptfg]), 10.6 rpg, 2.87 apg, 1.65 a/to, 0.58 spg, 0.74 bpg. If Tebbutt doesn't work out, he could be a useful stopgap (especially for rebounding), and his slot would reopen in 2014. Whether he's worth tying up a slot for 2 years if we get Tebbutt is a trickier question, because it's not clear how much Tebbutt will help with the rebounding problem, and I regard that as our most urgent need -- I'm not convinced Clifford will ever be a competent rebounder, although he might be.

[eepstein0]

Gill's stats this season at Cosumnes River CC (!) were: 18.2 ppg (.539/.386/.780 [.628 2ptfg]), 10.6 rpg, 2.87 apg, 1.65 a/to, 0.58 spg, 0.74 bpg. If Tebbutt doesn't work out, he could be a useful stopgap (especially for rebounding), and his slot would reopen in 2014. Whether he's worth tying up a slot for 2 years if we get Tebbutt is a trickier question, because it's not clear how much Tebbutt will help with the rebounding problem, and I regard that as our most urgent need -- I'm not convinced Clifford will ever be a competent rebounder, although he might be.

Tebbutt is a good player, but he sure isn't going to fix the rebounding problem. The kid is a SF.

[eepstein0]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

I sat courtside for a ND game this year. Dragicevich stands around and jacks 3s.

[twballgame9]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

Their retarded analysis isn't limited to white guys, see their dumb conclusions on Jackson, Lonnie, infra.

[twballgame9]

Gill's stats this season at Cosumnes River CC (!) were: 18.2 ppg (.539/.386/.780 [.628 2ptfg]), 10.6 rpg, 2.87 apg, 1.65 a/to, 0.58 spg, 0.74 bpg. If Tebbutt doesn't work out, he could be a useful stopgap (especially for rebounding), and his slot would reopen in 2014. Whether he's worth tying up a slot for 2 years if we get Tebbutt is a trickier question, because it's not clear how much Tebbutt will help with the rebounding problem, and I regard that as our most urgent need -- I'm not convinced Clifford will ever be a competent rebounder, although he might be.

Tebbutt is a good player, but he sure isn't going to fix the rebounding problem. The kid is a SF.

Ugh.

[eepstein0]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

Their retarded analysis isn't limited to white guys, see their dumb conclusions on Jackson, Lonnie, infra.

Right now he's a one-dimensional shooter. I'm not sure where the debate is.

[twballgame9]

Also, another update on transfers per Hoff:

@EAHoffses Notre Dame transfer Alex Dragicevich and JUCO Tony Gill will visit Boston College this weekend

This would be a disappointing close to the class, in my opinion.

Gill could be a good addition. Especially due to where he lies in the scholarship breakdown. I know nothing about Dragicevich except eppy has given him the 10 second he's white so all he can do is shoot analysis.

Their retarded analysis isn't limited to white guys, see their dumb conclusions on Jackson, Lonnie, infra.

Right now he's a one-dimensional shooter. I'm not sure where the debate is.

I'm done arguing with you over the merits of the freshman. People around here love on a guy that can't play, and crap on a guy that was a real contributor. I'll pass on debating the ignorant.

[HJS]

All 6 freshmen last year were good to great additions to the program. Anderson, Clifford, Jackson and Daniels could all be special. Heckmann and Caudill have potential to develop into solid contributors (but have a bit to go). Hanlan seems like a nice addition. Rahon seems more of a flier, but one that serves a vital role in Don's offense.

When I look at that group, I think it has a screaming need at forward (both 3 and 4). I see literally no use Dragicevich. Tebbutt plugs a huge hole on the roster. As for Gill, I am suspect of his talent level given the lack of interest. That said, he might not be a terrible signing if nothing more than spreading out the ships. Dragicevich seems as a waste as (a) we already have FOUR guys on the roster who can play 2 and (b) Dragicevich would become like the 8th person in the class of 2015. Donahue's Sweet Sixteen team had 8 or 9 seniors. That bothers me.

If BC wants to bring in Bryce Cotton or Dylan Ennis... fine. They are at least ballhandlers who could score (we only have 2 on the roster).
If BC wants to bring in an athletic wing like Jarelle Reischel or Jordan Tebbutt... fantastic as that is a massive position of need.
If BC wants to bring in Tony Gill... I guess it's better than nothing. But, he doesn't do much other than provide a body to fill that need (meaning that we better be addressing that position by the Fall of 2012).
If BC wants to bring in a stand still SG who jacks-up 3s, is a defensive liability and counts as the umpteenth member of the Class of 2015... well, then the BCWOFW rumor of Don underestimating the importance of recruiting will have considerable merit.

[eagle9903]

All 6 freshmen last year were good to great additions to the program. Anderson, Clifford, Jackson and Daniels could all be special. Heckmann and Caudill have potential to develop into solid contributors (but have a bit to go). Hanlan seems like a nice addition. Rahon seems more of a flier, but one that serves a vital role in Don's offense.

When I look at that group, I think it has a screaming need at forward (both 3 and 4). I see literally no use Dragicevich. Tebbutt plugs a huge hole on the roster. As for Gill, I am suspect of his talent level given the lack of interest. That said, he might not be a terrible signing if nothing more than spreading out the ships. Dragicevich seems as a waste as (a) we already have FOUR guys on the roster who can play 2 and (b) Dragicevich would become like the 8th person in the class of 2015. Donahue's Sweet Sixteen team had 8 or 9 seniors. That bothers me.

If BC wants to bring in Bryce Cotton or Dylan Ennis... fine. They are at least ballhandlers who could score (we only have 2 on the roster).
If BC wants to bring in an athletic wing like Jarelle Reischel or Jordan Tebbutt... fantastic as that is a massive position of need.
If BC wants to bring in Tony Gill... I guess it's better than nothing. But, he doesn't do much other than provide a body to fill that need (meaning that we better be addressing that position by the Fall of 2012).
If BC wants to bring in a stand still SG who jacks-up 3s, is a defensive liability and counts as the umpteenth member of the Class of 2015... well, then the BCWOFW rumor of Don underestimating the importance of recruiting will have considerable merit.

I can see value to Dragicevich (if he is as he is being projected here, which is based on a) 99.4% on him being white b)the one game eepstein watched in which he was focusing on a reserve shooting guard the entire time for some reason c) HJS not liking Gene and d) the fact he wasn't consistently starting at ND [the legit one] if it is in place of Odio. Based on nothing except similar size, same class and the fact that Odio didn't really seem to be a guy close to developing I could see this being the case. But again based on nothing real.

I posted below, TOS is saying Tebbutt is probably not happening. That blows. I look forward to the rest of this post being ignored.

Gill could be exactly what this team needs. Might not ever be an impact guy, but some depth at the 4 and 5 is a major plus. I've said this before but he doesn't have to be *** ******* he can be Tyrelle Blair, that would be helpful.

2 ballhandlers on the roster assumes Rahon can't play PG even though he played such in high school. White thing again? Or is it from you experts watching youtube videos?

As to the BCWOFW (BCwest AKA the poster HJS likes to stand behind when he wants to be taken seriously) rumor of Don underestimating the importance of recruiting will have considerable merit. It's as wrongly worded now as it was when made. The absolute only grain of sense in that idea is that he should hire a Joe Jones like recruiter again, but the best players on the current roster were primarily recruited by Nate Graham and Donahue himself as opposed to Jones. I certainly wouldn't turn an ace recruiter away. Maybe your boy Gene is being tight with the purse strings.

[twballgame9]

All 6 freshmen last year were good to great additions to the program. Anderson, Clifford, Jackson and Daniels could all be special. Heckmann and Caudill have potential to develop into solid contributors (but have a bit to go). Hanlan seems like a nice addition. Rahon seems more of a flier, but one that serves a vital role in Don's offense.

When I look at that group, I think it has a screaming need at forward (both 3 and 4). I see literally no use Dragicevich. Tebbutt plugs a huge hole on the roster. As for Gill, I am suspect of his talent level given the lack of interest. That said, he might not be a terrible signing if nothing more than spreading out the ships. Dragicevich seems as a waste as (a) we already have FOUR guys on the roster who can play 2 and (b) Dragicevich would become like the 8th person in the class of 2015. Donahue's Sweet Sixteen team had 8 or 9 seniors. That bothers me.

If BC wants to bring in Bryce Cotton or Dylan Ennis... fine. They are at least ballhandlers who could score (we only have 2 on the roster).
If BC wants to bring in an athletic wing like Jarelle Reischel or Jordan Tebbutt... fantastic as that is a massive position of need.
If BC wants to bring in Tony Gill... I guess it's better than nothing. But, he doesn't do much other than provide a body to fill that need (meaning that we better be addressing that position by the Fall of 2012).
If BC wants to bring in a stand still SG who jacks-up 3s, is a defensive liability and counts as the umpteenth member of the Class of 2015... well, then the BCWOFW rumor of Don underestimating the importance of recruiting will have considerable merit.

I can see value to Dragicevich (if he is as he is being projected here, which is based on a) 99.4% on him being white b)the one game eepstein watched in which he was focusing on a reserve shooting guard the entire time for some reason c) HJS not liking Gene and d) the fact he wasn't consistently starting at ND [the legit one] if it is in place of Odio. Based on nothing except similar size, same class and the fact that Odio didn't really seem to be a guy close to developing I could see this being the case. But again based on nothing real.

I posted below, TOS is saying Tebbutt is probably not happening. That blows. I look forward to the rest of this post being ignored.

Gill could be exactly what this team needs. Might not ever be an impact guy, but some depth at the 4 and 5 is a major plus. I've said this before but he doesn't have to be *** ******* he can be Tyrelle Blair, that would be helpful.

2 ballhandlers on the roster assumes Rahon can't play PG even though he played such in high school. White thing again? Or is it from you experts watching youtube videos?

As to the BCWOFW (BCwest AKA the poster HJS likes to stand behind when he wants to be taken seriously) rumor of Don underestimating the importance of recruiting will have considerable merit. It's as wrongly worded now as it was when made. The absolute only grain of sense in that idea is that he should hire a Joe Jones like recruiter again, but the best players on the current roster were primarily recruited by Nate Graham and Donahue himself as opposed to Jones. I certainly wouldn't turn an ace recruiter away. Maybe your boy Gene is being tight with the purse strings.

I'm calling bullshit on the third to last sentence. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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Rice transfer Jarelle Reischel wil visit BC the first weekend of May