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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:34 pm

bignick33 wrote:I was wondering where hjs was going with. Good stuff guys.

Point is out of the 7 guys on ESPN BC had the most picks to get Tebbutt. BC had 3 guys pick them, Washington had 2 as did Oregon State. Plus, 2 of the 3 that picked that Tebbutt would pick BC are the 2 biggest guys on ESPN recruiting, Dave Telep and Biancardi.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:49 pm

Bring Tebbutt to BC! that combo of Heckmann and Tebbutt at SF would be pretty effective, and itd be nice if we got Tebbutt to play the PF every once in a while to give poor Ryan Anderson a break. especially after Humphrey's departure, we NEED him!
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:54 pm

BCEagles25 wrote:Bring Tebbutt to BC! that combo of Heckmann and Tebbutt at SF would be pretty effective, and itd be nice if we got Tebbutt to play the PF every once in a while to give poor Ryan Anderson a break. especially after Humphrey's departure, we NEED him!

Tebbutt would be great. He'd also bring some bulk into the frontcourt. Signing day is tomorrow, and the signing period ends May 11th I think, so we should hear his decision soon.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby MattTheEagle on Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:42 pm

Tebbutt would be an excellent addition. He fills a huge and immediate need. I will be very happy if BC lands him.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby joesim on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:32 pm

I guess 2013 Jabari Parker is a jokester
this is from a column where players predict where Noel and Muhhamad will go

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“Boston College. [Laughs] Just kidding, Georgetown.”
Muhammad’s headed to …
“UC Santa Barbara. [Laughs] Just kidding, UCLA.”
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:02 pm

Nice to see BC=Santa Barbara in the minds of top prospects. Fucking nauseating.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BC923 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:15 pm

HJS wrote:Nice to see BC=Santa Barbara in the minds of top prospects. Fucking nauseating.

i think this was probably due to the hometown of either player, but it is also nice to see you taking every piece of news and spinning it against any figure you can at BC
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:35 am

BC923 wrote:
HJS wrote:Nice to see BC=Santa Barbara in the minds of top prospects. Fucking nauseating.

i think this was probably due to the hometown of either player, but it is also nice to see you taking every piece of news and spinning it against any figure you can at BC

You know what shuts critics up? Winning. Otherwise you have to rely on Internet warriors trying to convince the world that (in spite of evidence to the contrary) everything is just great.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:39 am

HJS wrote:
BC923 wrote:
HJS wrote:Nice to see BC=Santa Barbara in the minds of top prospects. Fucking nauseating.

i think this was probably due to the hometown of either player, but it is also nice to see you taking every piece of news and spinning it against any figure you can at BC

You know what shuts critics up? Winning. Otherwise you have to rely on Internet warriors trying to convince the world that (in spite of evidence to the contrary) everything is just great.


I'm surprised JTIII wants to deal with that headache.

And relax, it was a joke.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:19 am

HJS wrote:
BC923 wrote:
HJS wrote:Nice to see BC=Santa Barbara in the minds of top prospects. Fucking nauseating.

i think this was probably due to the hometown of either player, but it is also nice to see you taking every piece of news and spinning it against any figure you can at BC

You know what shuts critics up? Winning. Otherwise you have to rely on Internet warriors trying to convince the world that (in spite of evidence to the contrary) everything is just great.


You realize you're online jihad against Gene is about as internet warriory as a person can get, no?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby joeyfenn on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:22 am

MattTheEagle wrote:Tebbutt would be an excellent addition. He fills a huge and immediate need. I will be very happy if BC lands him.


Tebbutt's size would be phenomenal, plus the speed and skill of Hanlan would be a great combo for years to come. Tebbutt and Andersen could also work well together
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:23 am

Is today the spring signing day?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby joeyfenn on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:26 am

twballgame9 wrote:Is today the spring signing day?


yeah and it continues till May 16th
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEagles25 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:45 am

I guess Nerlens and Shabazz are announcing later today. 7:30 if I heard right.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby claver2010 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:52 am

BCEagles25 wrote:I guess Nerlens and Shabazz are announcing later today. 7:30 if I heard right.



Are they going to play the hat game?
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:00 am

Will The Don be in attendance? Would be about the only explanation as to why he has been allergic to chasing big men this Spring.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby bignick33 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:09 am

HJS wrote:Will The Don be in attendance? Would be about the only explanation as to why he has been allergic to chasing big men this Spring.


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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:47 pm

In all honesty... I don't get the complacency. How does a top recruit mockingly suggesting that a local star would ever pick BC NOT piss you off? We are a laughingstock and it doesn't sit well with me and don't know how or why it sits well with others.

Look, I like Don, I think he is a good talent developer and a very good Xs and Os coach. I question his ability as a talent evaluator, but love th 6-person class he brought in last year. That said, I am very disappointed that he hasn't built upon that with this class. Hanlan seems like a nice find... Rahon is questionable... and neither play forward. New England had been filthy with top talent this year (3 in the top 10) and BC wasn't a player for any. I thought one of the big reasons to get rid of Skinner was to bring in a guy who would work the recruiting trail hard. Having a solid recruiting class once every three years does not sound like a major upgrade to me. Of course, while I favored Don over virtually every other interviewed candidate based on his resume, I openly question the competency of any coach handpicked by GDF simply because they were handpicked by GDF.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby pick6pedro on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:00 pm

So if you're not freaking out on the internet, then it sits well with you? duly noted.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:08 pm

HJS wrote:In all honesty... I don't get the complacency. How does a top recruit mockingly suggesting that a local star would ever pick BC NOT piss you off? We are a laughingstock and it doesn't sit well with me and don't know how or why it sits well with others.

Look, I like Don, I think he is a good talent developer and a very good Xs and Os coach. I question his ability as a talent evaluator, but love th 6-person class he brought in last year. That said, I am very disappointed that he hasn't built upon that with this class. Hanlan seems like a nice find... Rahon is questionable... and neither play forward. New England had been filthy with top talent this year (3 in the top 10) and BC wasn't a player for any. I thought one of the big reasons to get rid of Skinner was to bring in a guy who would work the recruiting trail hard. Having a solid recruiting class once every three years does not sound like a major upgrade to me. Of course, while I favored Don over virtually every other interviewed candidate based on his resume, I openly question the competency of any coach handpicked by GDF simply because they were handpicked by GDF.


A top recruit suggesting a local star would never pick BC doesn't piss me off because we went 9-22 in the last season. Which turns to the question of should we be pissed of we were 9-22 last season, to which I answer kind of. I personally believe Skinner was unlikely to recreate his top performing teams going forward and therefore firing him is not on its face unreasonable. I'd rather sit through a rebuild than watch the program deteriorate slowly. Hindsight tells me that if GDF was going to fire Skinner, however, it probably should have been a year earlier. As we know however, there was a bit of turmoil surrounding a very public firing of a coach three months prior probably made it politically less than expedient for GDF to fire a generally popular coach after the season in 2009 following a tournament berth. Since GDF did not fire Skinner in 2009, we had the 2009 empty recruiting class and one less year of a bunch of players(I'm aware it could have meant that Reggie transferred, or some other circumstance) playing for Donahue. Then the question turns to whether you believe Donahue "ran off" Brady Heslip in favor of Gabe Moton and whether you believe Donahue had a chance to retain Ravenel, Sanders, Noreen, Ndao or Jackson for his senior year. Depending on your belief to the foregoing, it is reasonable to blame Donahue for 9-22 and be pissed at him or in the alternative credit him for what appear to be some signs of life in the younger players.

I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I realize the crux of your issue with the state of the basketball program is the man who hired the coach. I don't like him either, I just think this particular argument being made - that Donahue is a poor talent evaluator after one class you admit is good + Gabe Moton and the 5 days Donahue had between being hired and spring signing day + two guys you've never seen play in a class that isn't necessarily complete - is badly made and wrong to date based on the small data available.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Brablc on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:19 pm

ESPN is doing a signing day chat today:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/ ... recruiting

I'm going to try and get a BC recruiting question answered and see what they think our chances are for Tebbutt. Feel free to join me.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby HJS on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:29 pm

eagle9903 wrote:I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I realize the crux of your issue with the state of the basketball program is the man who hired the coach. I don't like him either, I just think this particular argument being made - that Donahue is a poor talent evaluator after one class you admit is good + Gabe Moton and the 5 days Donahue had between being hired and spring signing day + two guys you've never seen play in a class that isn't necessarily complete - is badly made and wrong to date based on the small data available.

Tebbutt would be fantastic and I have said it from the get-go that he would fit the bill as Anderson can play 3 or 4. We still have to land him though... as well as any potential transfers.

For the record, I praised Hanlan and questioned Rahon. That said, I do not think he is going to be bumping Jordan Daniels out of the starting role. I say that simply because I think (a) Daniels is very good, (b) Daniels gained a lot of experience this seasons and (c) regardless of his upside, Hanlan is only a frosh.

Yes... I question Don's talent evaluation based upon passing up on guys like Heslip and Cotton for Moton. But, that's largely because we don't have much else to go on. My concerns in recruiting really stem from not being able to make a major splash this recruiting class (this his third). Would really have liked to land one of the Top 3 from New England... or at least be able to duplicate the buzz Cooley has created at Providence. Don seemingly was in on a number of top players, but wasn't able to make their final list. That's troubling. He went on Hanlan late... and got him. Rahon seemed like a bit of a "what the heck" type offer after striking out elsewhere (note: Rahon is a type of player that seems to fit Don's system, so as fliers go this is probably a low risk one).
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:51 pm

HJS wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.

I realize the crux of your issue with the state of the basketball program is the man who hired the coach. I don't like him either, I just think this particular argument being made - that Donahue is a poor talent evaluator after one class you admit is good + Gabe Moton and the 5 days Donahue had between being hired and spring signing day + two guys you've never seen play in a class that isn't necessarily complete - is badly made and wrong to date based on the small data available.

Tebbutt would be fantastic and I have said it from the get-go that he would fit the bill as Anderson can play 3 or 4. We still have to land him though... as well as any potential transfers.

For the record, I praised Hanlan and questioned Rahon. That said, I do not think he is going to be bumping Jordan Daniels out of the starting role. I say that simply because I think (a) Daniels is very good, (b) Daniels gained a lot of experience this seasons and (c) regardless of his upside, Hanlan is only a frosh.

Yes... I question Don's talent evaluation based upon passing up on guys like Heslip and Cotton for Moton. But, that's largely because we don't have much else to go on. My concerns in recruiting really stem from not being able to make a major splash this recruiting class (this his third). Would really have liked to land one of the Top 3 from New England... or at least be able to duplicate the buzz Cooley has created at Providence. Don seemingly was in on a number of top players, but wasn't able to make their final list. That's troubling. He went on Hanlan late... and got him. Rahon seemed like a bit of a "what the heck" type offer after striking out elsewhere (note: Rahon is a type of player that seems to fit Don's system, so as fliers go this is probably a low risk one).


There isn't proof that he actually did that. The Don and his staff are excellent at finding players. Seems like everyone they go after blows up. A few come to mind (Lee, Jorgensen, Layman, Hield)
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eagle9903 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:54 pm

HJS wrote:Yes... I question Don's talent evaluation based upon passing up on guys like Heslip and Cotton for Moton. But, that's largely because we don't have much else to go on. My concerns in recruiting really stem from not being able to make a major splash this recruiting class (this his third). Would really have liked to land one of the Top 3 from New England... or at least be able to duplicate the buzz Cooley has created at Providence. Don seemingly was in on a number of top players, but wasn't able to make their final list. That's troubling. He went on Hanlan late... and got him. Rahon seemed like a bit of a "what the heck" type offer after striking out elsewhere (note: Rahon is a type of player that seems to fit Don's system, so as fliers go this is probably a low risk one).


I don't think Hanlan has to take Daniels minutes, I think they might be able to play together. Also, I do think that having a 6'2+ pg vs a 5'8(or whatever Daniels is) has some benefits that can't be denied e.g. playing defense against a physically strong back court you don't have to pick your poison of LJ or JD guarding a big slasher.

Why do you think Heslip was a choice again as opposed to a kid who just didn't want to play at BC when other bigger offers came up plus the coach who recruited him was gone? I don't remember, but you may have said. The closest thing to fact I've seen/heard (which I remember) on that is some boston.com article commenter with a screen name that had Heslip in it claiming to be Heslip's dad.

We've already had the New England top recruits discussion. I too would like to be able to get them, but don't think its necessary so long as the talent is coming from somewhere. I see Hanlan as a Skinner type recruit who we got in on at the right time and would be worried he'd be looking at bigger programs if he hadn't signed his LOI early. I see Rahon as a bit of a flyer as you do, but what gives me some confidence is 1) as you said he's fits the system as a shooter 2) he'd got a decent pedigree as his brother is a decent player for a tourney team and 3) he was apparently a much more highly rated recruit until he hurt his knee. I like that last one the most.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:30 pm

In '12, Hanlan is a good get where Rahon makes no sense to me at all. How many 3 point specialists exactly do we need on this team? Rahon is a mirror image of Lonnie Jackson, who still looks to me like a one-dimensional player.

I'll take anyone that started for Oak Hill, since they went 44-0 he must be relatively good.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Brablc on Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:01 pm

For what it's worth on the ESPN Recruiting Chat:

Cam (New Hampshire)

Any update on Tebbutt and BC?

Mike LaPlante
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Although the West Coaster has been receiving most of his recruitment from the Pac-12, BC made a hard push late, but after taking an official visit there is no word if the Eagles extended an offer. I think he will end up back on the West Coast, closer to home.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby BCEaglesFan on Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:06 pm

Brablc wrote:For what it's worth on the ESPN Recruiting Chat:

Cam (New Hampshire)

Any update on Tebbutt and BC?

Mike LaPlante
(3:59 PM)


Although the West Coaster has been receiving most of his recruitment from the Pac-12, BC made a hard push late, but after taking an official visit there is no word if the Eagles extended an offer. I think he will end up back on the West Coast, closer to home.

BC did offer him.
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby Shaddix on Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:26 pm

Brablc wrote:For what it's worth on the ESPN Recruiting Chat:

Cam (New Hampshire)

Any update on Tebbutt and BC?

Mike LaPlante
(3:59 PM)


Although the West Coaster has been receiving most of his recruitment from the Pac-12, BC made a hard push late, but after taking an official visit there is no word if the Eagles extended an offer. I think he will end up back on the West Coast, closer to home.


Wow, that's actually my question haha
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Re: Commits/Recruiting

Postby 2001Eagle on Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:47 pm

eagle9903 wrote: I would also like a forward, I would be more than happy with Tebbutt if he signs though and I'd like to see how the transfers play out. I have a much higher opinion on Hanlan's upside than you apparently do and think he could potentially be the best or second best player on the floor next year. In light of this, I'm higher on this recruiting class than you and will be much happier if it adds another recruit or transfer.


I wish Travis Taylor was joining this class instead of going to Xavier. A 6'8" forward would be perfect. What did he do again? was it :seanwilliams ?
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