Commits/Recruiting

[Shaddix]

Derrick Gordon decommitted from WKU today. He would be a great addition to the 2012 class.

Well he said he wanted to transfer closer to his home in New Jersey. Is BC close enough?

BC is like 3 times closer to NJ than Kentucky is. BC also has a ton of kids from NJ on the football team.

Gordon would be excellent for Donahue, he's got all the intangibles. His range extends to the 3 point line and he can create his own shot.

I assume he's going to RU (which is closer to Jersey than BC).
He also is going to have to sit out.
He is also a PG.
I have no problem with BC taking him. But, given everyone's opinion that Hanlan is the second-coming and knowing that Daniels is already competent, I don't think this would be a make-or-break transfer.

He's not a PG, he's a SG. He played PG in high school I believe, though.

[Shaddix]

Rayvonte Rice is transferring from Drake, BC had interest in him.

[BCEaglesFan]

Rayvonte Rice is transferring from Drake, BC had interest in him.

Okay, so let's go over a list of possible guys BC can get in the coming months:
Recruits:
Tebbutt
Varyan Moody
Transfers (that we know BC is interested in):
Dragevich
Ennis
Transfers that BC could get involved in:
Coleman
Rice
Gordon

[BCEaglesFan]

Derrick Gordon decommitted from WKU today. He would be a great addition to the 2012 class.

Well he said he wanted to transfer closer to his home in New Jersey. Is BC close enough?

BC is like 3 times closer to NJ than Kentucky is. BC also has a ton of kids from NJ on the football team.

Gordon would be excellent for Donahue, he's got all the intangibles. His range extends to the 3 point line and he can create his own shot.

I assume he's going to RU (which is closer to Jersey than BC).
He also is going to have to sit out.
He is also a PG.
I have no problem with BC taking him. But, given everyone's opinion that Hanlan is the second-coming and knowing that Daniels is already competent, I don't think this would be a make-or-break transfer.

He's not a PG, he's a SG. He played PG in high school I believe, though.

I have gone back-and-forth with this for many months. It is important to me that my family be able to see me play more frequently and for me to be able to visit everyone, including my brother, more regularly, and I believe it is best for me to continue my playing career closer to home.

This afternoon, Adam Zagoria caught up with St. Patrick's head coach, Chris Chavannes:

Gordon is considering Dayton, Seton Hall, Penn State and Virginia Tech, St. Patrick coach Chris Chavannes told SNY.tv.

However, Gordon then told Jeff Goodman there is no list, though he would like to land in New Jersey at a school where he can refine his point guard skills. He also spoke on the reason behind the transfer:

"It honestly had nothing to do with the coaching staff," Gordon told CBSSports.com. "I want to get back towards New Jersey, so my family can watch me play and so I can see my brother."

[twballgame9]

Ugh, do any of these point guards play power forward?

Fuck, we have a PG and a SG and we have a PG coming in. Get me someone that can fucking rebound.

[RedBaron67]

Ugh, do any of these point guards play power forward?

Fuck, we have a PG and a SG and we have a PG coming in. Get me someone that can fucking rebound.

I couldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. BC desperately needs someone who can bang inside and go get the damned ball consistently.

[2001Eagle]

Gill's offer list isn't exactly a who's who of college basketball.

Sounds to me that Ryan Taylor or Jordan Tebbutt are the only ones who fit the bill of a kid coming in and supplementing the Anderson/Clifford frontline. As I stated previously, it doesn't sound like many think we have a shot for either.

All of this just illustrates (again) that recruiting is the critical issue with Donahue; a high-major coach who can't recruit can't compete, regardless of his other abilities. I figure that Donahue has until 2014 to demonstrate he can compete in the ACC, otherwise he's gone.

Let's not get into the ACC caliber argument too.

I'd like to go on record as stating that I disagree entirely with this 2014 or bust timetable for Donahue. He's here for the long term. Even if BC's improvement is only incremental and he doesn't recruit 4 and 5 stars, he's going to be here for a lot longer than 2 more years. Frankly, I'm fine with that. I think he can build a program.

[RedBaron67]

Gill's offer list isn't exactly a who's who of college basketball.

Sounds to me that Ryan Taylor or Jordan Tebbutt are the only ones who fit the bill of a kid coming in and supplementing the Anderson/Clifford frontline. As I stated previously, it doesn't sound like many think we have a shot for either.

All of this just illustrates (again) that recruiting is the critical issue with Donahue; a high-major coach who can't recruit can't compete, regardless of his other abilities. I figure that Donahue has until 2014 to demonstrate he can compete in the ACC, otherwise he's gone.

Let's not get into the ACC caliber argument too.

I'd like to go on record as stating that I disagree entirely with this 2014 or bust timetable for Donahue. He's here for the long term. Even if BC's improvement is only incremental and he doesn't recruit 4 and 5 stars, he's going to be here for a lot longer than 2 more years. Frankly, I'm fine with that. I think he can build a program.

"Build a program" is a highly elastic phrase with a lot of room for interpretation; if you're talking about success, success is defined by winning enough games to keep the fans happy (= regularly purchasing tickets). If Donahue doesn't, within a certain amount of time, recruit players who can do that (whatever their ratings as prospects), he won't be around for long; even a leadership that cares as little about sports as BC's will only put up with the complaints and the empty seats for so long. Donahue doesn't have to recruit high school blue chips, but he does have to recruit players who will win consistently in college (who are usually but not always former high school blue chips). Right now it's at least questionable whether he's doing that; if he isn't, the team will hit a ceiling of achievement rather quickly. If that is the case, the only way Donahue will last much longer than two years will be if BC's leadership decides that the embarrassment of of fielding a doormat team is preferable to the increased expense of fielding a respectably successful team (which isn't impossible but is probably unlikely -- BC's endowment isn't big enough for them to risk seriously irritating a large block of alumni).

[Shaddix]

Derrick Gordon decommitted from WKU today. He would be a great addition to the 2012 class.

Well he said he wanted to transfer closer to his home in New Jersey. Is BC close enough?

BC is like 3 times closer to NJ than Kentucky is. BC also has a ton of kids from NJ on the football team.

Gordon would be excellent for Donahue, he's got all the intangibles. His range extends to the 3 point line and he can create his own shot.

I assume he's going to RU (which is closer to Jersey than BC).
He also is going to have to sit out.
He is also a PG.
I have no problem with BC taking him. But, given everyone's opinion that Hanlan is the second-coming and knowing that Daniels is already competent, I don't think this would be a make-or-break transfer.

He's not a PG, he's a SG. He played PG in high school I believe, though.

I have gone back-and-forth with this for many months. It is important to me that my family be able to see me play more frequently and for me to be able to visit everyone, including my brother, more regularly, and I believe it is best for me to continue my playing career closer to home.

This afternoon, Adam Zagoria caught up with St. Patrick's head coach, Chris Chavannes:

Gordon is considering Dayton, Seton Hall, Penn State and Virginia Tech, St. Patrick coach Chris Chavannes told SNY.tv.

However, Gordon then told Jeff Goodman there is no list, though he would like to land in New Jersey at a school where he can refine his point guard skills. He also spoke on the reason behind the transfer:

"It honestly had nothing to do with the coaching staff," Gordon told CBSSports.com. "I want to get back towards New Jersey, so my family can watch me play and so I can see my brother."

I'm pretty sure Jamal Crook plays point for Western Kentucky. But Gordon takes it up sometimes as well because he has that ability.

[HJS]

Ugh, do any of these point guards play power forward?

Fuck, we have a PG and a SG and we have a PG coming in. Get me someone that can fucking rebound.

I couldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. BC desperately needs someone who can bang inside and go get the damned ball consistently.

Not to mention Rahon, your much maligned Heckmann and even Moton (who Don considers a better player than Brady Heslip). BC has enough guards... which is great, because they are the most important players in the college game. But, the team NEEDS some goddamn forwards. This is the fucking ACC where every team has 6'7" guys with freakish athleticism. In the Ivies, you can roll out a bunch of white dudes running back cuts. But that shit don't win here. You need guys to match-up defensively and show some ability to rebound.

It seems that Don is as allergic to athletic/bruising forwards as Skinner was to pure point guards.

[BCEaglesFan]

Ugh, do any of these point guards play power forward?

Fuck, we have a PG and a SG and we have a PG coming in. Get me someone that can fucking rebound.

I couldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. BC desperately needs someone who can bang inside and go get the damned ball consistently.

Not to mention Rahon, your much maligned Heckmann and even Moton (who Don considers a better player than Brady Heslip). BC has enough guards... which is great, because they are the most important players in the college game. But, the team NEEDS some goddamn forwards. This is the fucking ACC where every team has 6'7" guys with freakish athleticism. In the Ivies, you can roll out a bunch of white dudes running back cuts. But that shit don't win here. You need guys to match-up defensively and show some ability to rebound.

It seems that Don is as allergic to athletic/bruising forwards as Skinner was to pure point guards.

Anderson has plenty of athletic ability. Clifford is the rebounding problem.

That' just why Don went 21-13 with a back-cut and 3 point system with problems rebounding and almost made the NCAA's.

[twballgame9]

Ugh, do any of these point guards play power forward?

Fuck, we have a PG and a SG and we have a PG coming in. Get me someone that can fucking rebound.

I couldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. BC desperately needs someone who can bang inside and go get the damned ball consistently.

Not to mention Rahon, your much maligned Heckmann and even Moton (who Don considers a better player than Brady Heslip). BC has enough guards... which is great, because they are the most important players in the college game. But, the team NEEDS some goddamn forwards. This is the fucking ACC where every team has 6'7" guys with freakish athleticism. In the Ivies, you can roll out a bunch of white dudes running back cuts. But that shit don't win here. You need guys to match-up defensively and show some ability to rebound.

It seems that Don is as allergic to athletic/bruising forwards as Skinner was to pure point guards.

Anderson ha plenty of athletic ability. Clifford is the rebounding problem.

That' just why Don went 21-13 with a back-cut and 3 point system with problems rebounding and almost made the NCAA's.

And Corey Raji at forward. Was never a huge Raji fan, but a bigger version of him is exactly what this team needs. In the paint, I might add, not chucking threes.

Anderson is not the bruising rebounder we need, because he needs to do other things and should play the 3. And Clifford is not a problem, he is the perfect 5 for the Don's system. We need another forward on the court with those two that is devoted to destroying people on screens and the glass.

[BCEaglesFan]

@TheRecruitScoop Rice transfer Dylan Ennis has cut his list of options to Villanova, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech & Cincinnati.

[Shaddix]

Rodney Hood of Mississippi State is transferring, but BC probably has no chance at him. Shame, because he's a perfect fit.

[781]

not sure if this was reported yet but 6'1 Denzel Brito a Loyola-Ill transfer is considering BC as a possible landing spot. Play his prep school ball in the same backcourt as Uconn lead guard Shabazz Napier

[BCEaglesFan]

not sure if this was reported yet but 6'1 Denzel Brito a Loyola-Ill transfer is considering BC as a possible landing spot. Play his prep school ball in the same backcourt as Uconn lead guard Shabazz Napier

Thanks for the info.

Averaged 7 points, 2.5 rebounds, and 3.5 assists.

BUT HE'S A POINT GUARD!

[eepstein0]

Rodney Hood of Mississippi State is transferring, but BC probably has no chance at him. Shame, because he's a perfect fit.

This would be fantastic but I agree.

[Shaddix]

ESPN Insider

Jordan Tebbutt, SF
Canby, Ore./Oak Hill
Player rank: NR | Position rank: 52 | Grade: 89 | Stars: 3
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 215 pounds | Evaluation
Considering: BC, Gonzaga, Kansas State, Oregon, Washington

Recruiting update: Despite being out east, the Oregon native is still getting heavy interest form West Coast schools. Although it seems that he would most likely end up in the Pac-12 with Washington and Oregon showing the most intense interest, Boston College has made a strong push late.

[BCEaglesFan]

ESPN Insider

Jordan Tebbutt, SF
Canby, Ore./Oak Hill
Player rank: NR | Position rank: 52 | Grade: 89 | Stars: 3
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 215 pounds | Evaluation
Considering: BC, Gonzaga, Kansas State, Oregon, Washington

Recruiting update: Despite being out east, the Oregon native is still getting heavy interest form West Coast schools. Although it seems that he would most likely end up in the Pac-12 with Washington and Oregon showing the most intense interest, Boston College has made a strong push late.

That's weird that Washington State is not on that list because apparently he visited them last weekend.

Does anyone know when he'll decide?

[mjago410]

Anyone know what Tebbutt's stats looked like for this season? Oak Hill went 44-0 this year, so I would be pretty surprised if he was one of the top scorers. Could be a major coup if we got him though.

[BCEaglesFan]

By the way, ESPN Insider just did their predictions on where they think the best unsigned prospects are going to go. Here's Jordan Tebbutt's:

Paul Biancardi-BC
Adam Finklestein-Washington
Joel Fransisco-Oregon State
Mike LaPlante-Oregon State
Reggie Rankin-Washington
John Stovall-BC
Dave Telep-BC

Full link: http://insider.espn.go.com/college-spor ... -prospects

While these predictions may seem insignificant, the guys that picked that Tebbutt was going to BC were the national recruiting guys. Both Telep and Biancardi are all about recruiting, so if they think he's going to BC, that might be a good sign.

[HJS]

Who is this Paul Biancardi of which you speak???

[BCEaglesFan]

Who is this Paul Biancardi of which you speak???

Possibly the biggest recruiting guy on ESPN. Then again, it's ESPN.

[Shaddix]

Smotrycz has a final 3 of Colorado, Providence, and Maryland per Alex Kline

[HJS]

Who is this Paul Biancardi of which you speak???

Possibly the biggest recruiting guy on ESPN. Then again, it's ESPN.

What is this alleged gurus qualifications that make him so effing great??

[BCEaglesFan]

Who is this Paul Biancardi of which you speak???

Possibly the biggest recruiting guy on ESPN. Then again, it's ESPN.

What is this alleged gurus qualifications that make him so effing great??

He was an assistant at BC, BU, and Wright St. The BC connection could mean he knows things others don't at BC.

He's the one that runs the show, the guy who does all the stories and blogs. He's generally pretty reliable.

[Shaddix]

Who is this Paul Biancardi of which you speak???

Possibly the biggest recruiting guy on ESPN. Then again, it's ESPN.

What is this alleged gurus qualifications that make him so effing great??

Aare you getting at that he was an assistant at BC?

EDIT: BC eagles beat me to it..

[BCEaglesFan]

Let's not get off-topic here. The point is, it appears BC has a much better shot at Tebbutt than people think.

[bignick33]

I was wondering where hjs was going with. Good stuff guys.

[HJS]

Biancardi was one of the greasiest recruiters in the business... before Calipari made it vogue. He and Spiller landed all those later talented classes (at BC and OSU) and delivered them to Obie to mismanage. Was only a matter of time before the NCAA put Biancardi out of business.