Commits/Recruiting

[Shaddix]

Even is Yukon doesn't ban Oriahki from transferring here the chances are still slim.

I haven't heard much word of him being interested in BC. Any reports on his interest in BC?

I've heard that there is mutual interest. ATL posted that Oriakhi's AAU coach reached out to our staff and BC said to not expect any funny business (payments, cars)

[joeyfenn]

Even is Yukon doesn't ban Oriahki from transferring here the chances are still slim.

I haven't heard much word of him being interested in BC. Any reports on his interest in BC?

I've heard that there is mutual interest. ATL posted that Oriakhi's AAU coach reached out to our staff and BC said to not expect any funny business (payments, cars)

BC needs to live on the edge. I say we all pool some money together to get him some air jordans.

But honestly BC needs to put a full court press on the kid. Not only would he be a great player but also bring so much exposure to the school.

[Shaddix]

Even is Yukon doesn't ban Oriahki from transferring here the chances are still slim.

I haven't heard much word of him being interested in BC. Any reports on his interest in BC?

I've heard that there is mutual interest. ATL posted that Oriakhi's AAU coach reached out to our staff and BC said to not expect any funny business (payments, cars)

BC needs to live on the edge. I say we all pool some money together to get him some air jordans.

But honestly BC needs to put a full court press on the kid. Not only would he be a great player but also bring so much exposure to the school.

Agreed 100%. This could be the first big step in the Donahue regime.

[2001Eagle]

Even is Yukon doesn't ban Oriahki from transferring here the chances are still slim.

I haven't heard much word of him being interested in BC. Any reports on his interest in BC?

I've heard that there is mutual interest. ATL posted that Oriakhi's AAU coach reached out to our staff and BC said to not expect any funny business (payments, cars)

ATL then posted that Oriakhi is joining Ryan Day as co-offensive coordinator at Temple.

[joeyfenn]

I know it won't happen but Robert Upshaw. Kansas State decommit would be great. 7 feet tall

[BCEaglesFan]

I know it won't happen but Robert Upshaw. Kansas State decommit would be great. 7 feet tall

He is from California. You never know...

[BCEaglesFan]

Smotrycz update

[eepstein0]

Kion Brown committed to Radford. Someone that BC had an interest in under the previous regime.

[BCEaglesFan]

@JucoRecruiting Michigan transfer Evan Smotrycz lists Maryland, Colorado, Baylor, Providence and Xavier and plans on taking visits soon.

[HJS]

Anyone hearing anything about BC adding to this class (via transfer or via recruit)??? Seems awfully quiet during a time where there should be some noise if something was happening.

[EDIT: just saw Eaglefan's simultaneous post... yet another potential player bites the dust]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little weak, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

[BCEaglesFan]

Anyone hearing anything about BC adding to this class (via transfer or via recruit)??? Seems awfully quiet during a time where there should be some noise if something was happening. AO seems a certainty to be out... what about the other Mass PF from Michigan?

If you looked at my last post you'd see that the Michigan guy likely ain't coming here. Jordan Tebbutt could be a possibility.

[eagle9903]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

[BCEaglesFan]

Also, Tony Gill could be a possibility also, along with Tebbutt.

[DuchesneEast]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

[eagle9903]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

[twballgame9]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

And that class was 1-15 in the conference as freshmen.

[DuchesneEast]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

Thats the one player I was going to bring up, he was worth it for 1 play.

He is an example of a guy that should have gone pro. Dumb injury.

[DuchesneEast]

1990-91
Doug Able (10.3, 5.1), Gerrod Abram (9.4, 1.9),
Lior Arditti (4.5, 0.8), Corey Beasley (6.6, 2.8),
Bill Curley (12.6, 6.9), Howard Eisley (9.9, 2.6),
Willy Foley (2.4, 2.2), Randy Hagerdon (1.3,
1.7), David Hinton (5.3, 1.4), Malcolm Huckaby
(6.5, 1.9), Corey Jackson (4.4, 2.7), Scott
McQuarrie (0.7, 0.4), Bobby Moran (8.1, 4.3),
Clarzell Pearl (1.0, 0.7)

1991-92
Gerrod Abram (11.3, 2.4), Bill Curley (17.8, 8.1),
Howard Eisley (11.6, 3.6), Willy Foley (2.5, 1.9),
David Hinton (4.3, 2.7), Kevin Hrobowski (3.5,
1.7), Malcolm Huckaby (13.5, 3.5), Corey Jackson
(5.6, 4.9), Derek Jackson (1.4, 0.2), Marc
Molinsky (5.4, 1.1), Terry Rountree (1.5, 0.1),
Wayne Williams (0.3, 0.5)

1992-93
Gerrod Abram (9.6, 2.7), Robert Blackwell Jr.
(2.0, 0.8), Bill Curley (15.8, 7.6), Howard Eisley
(13.7, 3.5), Joe Giacona (0.0, 0.3), Paul Grant (5.0,
3.5), David Hinton (4.7, 3.6), Kevin Hrobowski
(6.5, 3.3), Malcolm Huckaby (11.5, 4.0), Derek
Jackson (1.7, 0.8), Marc Molinsky (5.1, 1.1), Jim
Panettiere (1.0, 1.1), James Ward (2.0, 1.0)

1993-94
Gerrod Abram (8.4, 2.7), Danya Abrams (10.4,
7.1), Robert Blackwell Jr. (DNP), Brad
Christianson (1.2, 1.2), Bill Curley (20.0, 9.0),
Howard Eisley (16.0, 3.4), Paul Grant (3.3, 2.2),
Kevin Hrobowski (2.7, 2.2), Malcolm Huckaby
(10.2, 3.6), Keenan Jourdon (2.9, 2.1), Marc
Molinsky (4.1, 1.6), Jim Ryan (2.7, 0.4), Bevan
Thomas (DNP — transfer)

1994-95
Danya Abrams (22.1, 9.1), Robert Blackwell Jr.
(3.0, 3.0), Brad Christianson (1.7, 1.6), Mickey
Curley (6.1, 4.3), Antonio Granger (3.6, 1.9), Paul
Grant (4.8, 2.6), Chris Herren (14.0, 2.0), Kevin
Hrobowski (8.9, 4.6), Keenan Jourdon (6.2, 4.1),
Marc Molinsky (7.6, 2.2), Mike Piwerka (0.8, 1.5),
Jim Ryan (1.0, 0.3), Bevan Thomas (7.8, 4.6),
Duane Woodward (6.9, 3.4)

[twballgame9]

Was Bevan Thomas the dude that shot three pointers that went like 30 feet in the air?

EDIT: my bad, I was mixing him up with Bryant for some reason.

[JConman]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

And that class was 1-15 in the conference as freshmen.

Yes, Danya was the difference. Too bad it took JOB to Curley's senior year to get anyone else on the roster who could contribute any meaningful minutes.

[twballgame9]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

And that class was 1-15 in the conference as freshmen.

Yes, Danya was the difference. Too bad it took JOB to Curley's senior year to get anyone else on the roster who could contribute any meaningful minutes.

Fair point. And by the same token, it will be at least until these guys' junior year before the Don adds a difference maker at forward. He did a good job at guard, but what we really need is a forward - that is all HJS is saying.

[BCEaglesFan]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

And that class was 1-15 in the conference as freshmen.

Yes, Danya was the difference. Too bad it took JOB to Curley's senior year to get anyone else on the roster who could contribute any meaningful minutes.

Fair point. And by the same token, it will be at least until these guys' junior year before the Don adds a difference maker at forward. He did a good job at guard, but what we really need is a forward - that is all HJS is saying.

Well that JUCO guy Tony Gill apparently got a ton of rebounds in JUCO play and is a good shooter.

[twballgame9]

He scored a lot too, looks like decent competition too.

[HJS]

Here is the deal... when you have a solid 6-person rookie class, you desperately need to supplement it if you are going to play the "let them mature together and then we'll catch lightning in a bottle" game. Don has done that at the guard position (where we may have appeared a little week, but ultimately wound up pretty strong). But... he desperately needs to address the forward position (either the 3 or 4).

Please point to 2 other 6 person freshman classes of which you are basing a comparison and your formula for success. Don't use the Fab 5 because that's stupid. I'll be waiting.

Other than that, I agree with you though, they need to get a forward and I wish the Michigan kid was a possibility.

I may be wrong but didnt BC's incoming class of in 1990 have Huckaby, Jerrod Abrams, Billy Curley, Howard Eisely and probably one or 2 others.

Maybe, I'm not sure how to check. Did that team have a significant transfer added before it beat UNC when they were seniors?

I don't think he was limiting it to transfers, and I think he would point out that augmenting the class with Danya Abrams made all of the difference.

And that class was 1-15 in the conference as freshmen.

Yes, Danya was the difference. Too bad it took JOB to Curley's senior year to get anyone else on the roster who could contribute any meaningful minutes.

Fair point. And by the same token, it will be at least until these guys' junior year before the Don adds a difference maker at forward. He did a good job at guard, but what we really need is a forward - that is all HJS is saying.

I was thinking about Curley's teams... who, as soon as they got frontcourt help (in Abrams)... finally achieved. David Hinton III wasn't the answer. Imagine the run Obie woulda had if Danya Abrams came on campus 2 years earlier?

I was also thinking about The Don's last attempt at catching-lightning-in-a-bottle. My recollection is that he had a team of like 7 seniors that was supplemented with key multi-year underclassmen like their PG (Roblesky(?)) and their center (Foote).

[eepstein0]

If you add Hanlan and say Tebbutt to this current group along with 2 decent players in '13 you're probably only something.

[HJS]

If you add Hanlan and say Tebbutt to this current group along with 2 decent players in '13 you're probably only something.

Sure do. But you desperately need Tebbutt and for 1 (if not 2) of those 2013 recruits to be forwards. But, that's kinda the focus of the last few pages of this thread... the importance for Don to grab a quality 3 or 4 right now.

[Thornton Melon]

I was thinking about Curley's teams... who, as soon as they got frontcourt help (in Abrams)... finally achieved.

To be fair, and I love that 94 team too, they were a fringe bubble team going into the BE Tournament and got annihilated by Georgetown with their lives on the line. Yes, ended up with a 9 seed and proceeded to be down late to Washington St before somehow pulling it together and eeking out a win.

Not saying Elite 8 wasn't achievement but I think the recollection of two wins (UNC/Indiana) overshadows the fact that even that senior year they weren't great.

[HJS]

I was thinking about Curley's teams... who, as soon as they got frontcourt help (in Abrams)... finally achieved.

To be fair, and I love that 94 team too, they were a fringe bubble team going into the BE Tournament and got annihilated by Georgetown with their lives on the line. Yes, ended up with a 9 seed and proceeded to be down late to Washington St before somehow pulling it together and eeking out a win.

Not saying Elite 8 wasn't achievement but I think the recollection of two wins (UNC/Indiana) overshadows the fact that even that senior year they weren't great.

I am all too aware of the struggles of that team (mainly due to a crap coach). I was surprised they made the Tourney at all after getting annhilated in the first round in MSG. Was shocked they landed comfortably at 8 (I think they were an 8 seed... not 9). That said, the team was so much better with Danya in the line-up. Without him, who knows if it was even a .500 club?

[Thornton Melon]

According to Wikipedia, we were a 9, but I wasn't sure either.

Agreed on Danya, he was exactly what that team needed.

[eagle9903]

Can someone clarify for me why the comparison to the JOB elite eight team to right now is apt? I'm not saying it's not, I'm just not really following and it could be because I was in middle school during the Curley era.

Aren't arguably the two best players on the current team a Power Forward(who is our most consistent scorer) and a Center (as opposed to the JOB team where the best players pre-Abrams were a PG and a C)? I'm assuming David Hinton III was a shitty power forward on the 1992(or 93) team who was replaced by Abrams resulting in vast improvement? Is the idea for the comparison that Anderson would be better suited as a SF and you guys want a bigger PF who would be the Abrams for this class?

If that's all it is then wouldn't the idea be more simple stated that we need another go-to type player anywhere on the court?