Bruins Weirdos

[ryfarls]

Why would chara fight someone close to his size when all it would do, even if he fought to a draw Nevermind lost, would just amp up the other team and give them that much of an advantage? Because he doesn't want people to think hes a pussy?

You don't think the guys upstairs and behind the bench tell chara and lucic to pick their spots and not accept every fight so they stay in good health? They would be the highest paid and most valuable goons in the league if they obliged every tough guy who's fought his way up the ranks to the 4th line of the nhl.

[Dick Rosenthal]

I would guess the coaches tell them not to mix it up with no talent goons. With that said, as I posted, Chara clearly has succumbed to the temptation in the past. Interestingly, he has not succumbed to the temptation against guys who are as big and strong as him. That may be the smart move--in fact, it definitely the smart move--but considering Chara's penchant for cornering smaller guys and then beating the ever-living shit of them it deserves comment when he ducks guys who aren't easy marks.

As for Lucic, don't even bother defending him. He now has a reputation--as noted on NBC Sports and Hockey Night in Canada--as a guy who only fights when he has a significant size advantage. Go google Colton Orr and Milan Lucic and watch the clip and the commentary. Don Cherry never, ever badmouths the Bruins and he called Lucic a coward. And while there is obviously a lot of hyperbole from Cherry, it is hard to disagree with the assessment after Lucic starts begging the lineman to step in after Orr belts him in the mouth a couple of times. Even Milbury--another guy who'd rather kill himself then speak ill of his former team--called Lucic "gutless" and said "I'd say more, but I have to live here."

[flyingelvii]

I would guess the coaches tell them not to mix it up with no talent goons. With that said, as I posted, Chara clearly has succumbed to the temptation in the past. Interestingly, he has not succumbed to the temptation against guys who are as big and strong as him. That may be the smart move--in fact, it definitely the smart move--but considering Chara's penchant for cornering smaller guys and then beating the ever-living shit of them it deserves comment when he ducks guys who aren't easy marks.

As for Lucic, don't even bother defending him. He now has a reputation--as noted on NBC Sports and Hockey Night in Canada--as a guy who only fights when he has a significant size advantage. Go google Colton Orr and Milan Lucic and watch the clip and the commentary. Don Cherry never, ever badmouths the Bruins and he called Lucic a coward. And while there is obviously a lot of hyperbole from Cherry, it is hard to disagree with the assessment after Lucic starts begging the lineman to step in after Orr belts him in the mouth a couple of times. Even Milbury--another guy who'd rather kill himself then speak ill of his former team--called Lucic "gutless" and said "I'd say more, but I have to live here."

Except he doesn't. He typically fights guys relatively close to him in size, at least as documented by hockeyfights.com that I discussed a little bit ago when this came up again.

And regarding the move at the end if the game, McDonagh was holding the puck against the boards, LUCIC tried to get it loose, McDonagh shoved him and Lucic caught him pretty flush on the chin. That's what happens when you do that to someone that has a short temper. Of course Eddie O reacted like Lucic raped his teddy bear but I've gathered he has a decent anti-Bruibs bias so I don't take much stock in his analysis. I also think he's a hack, but that has nothing to do with his views of the B's.

And Colton Ord us the reason Lucic can't breathe correctly. Fucked his nose up pretty good.

[DomingoOrtiz]

I would guess the coaches tell them not to mix it up with no talent goons. With that said, as I posted, Chara clearly has succumbed to the temptation in the past. Interestingly, he has not succumbed to the temptation against guys who are as big and strong as him. That may be the smart move--in fact, it definitely the smart move--but considering Chara's penchant for cornering smaller guys and then beating the ever-living shit of them it deserves comment when he ducks guys who aren't easy marks.

As for Lucic, don't even bother defending him. He now has a reputation--as noted on NBC Sports and Hockey Night in Canada--as a guy who only fights when he has a significant size advantage. Go google Colton Orr and Milan Lucic and watch the clip and the commentary. Don Cherry never, ever badmouths the Bruins and he called Lucic a coward. And while there is obviously a lot of hyperbole from Cherry, it is hard to disagree with the assessment after Lucic starts begging the lineman to step in after Orr belts him in the mouth a couple of times. Even Milbury--another guy who'd rather kill himself then speak ill of his former team--called Lucic "gutless" and said "I'd say more, but I have to live here."

I would argue that Chara is more valuable to his team than any other player is in the NHL. As a Bs fan, you don't want him fighting anyone.
Lucic is a very good player and as a Bs fan, you do not want him fighting the other team's goon.

[Dick Rosenthal]

I don't disagree with either assessment. Chara is an amazing d-man and as I said earlier, I'd love to have him on the Rangers and if I were his coach I would want him to duck John Scott as well. With that said, it is funny that Chara, who is allegedly the strongest and toughest guy in the league seems to love to mix it up with the second-tier heavyweights but has no appetite for the occassional rumble with a fellow super heavy. Just an observation.

As for Lucic--and I have watched most of the Bruins games on the Center Ice package--I am beginning to think he is overrated as a talent. That isn't to say he isn't a good player, he is, but I think he is probably a homeless man's Kevin Stevens--i.e. his elite status is a product of the talent around him. Looking at this year versus last year, it seems likely his goal total will be down by at least 10%, his +/- which admittedly can be deceiving looks to be down by 66% and his penalty minute total looks like it will be up 20% if current projections hold. I think last year's 30 goal total was an abberation and he is more likely a 20-25 goals a year guy.

[flyingelvii]

He had like 6 ENGs last year and I'm pretty sure he has 0 or 1 this year so last year's number was admittedly skewed up. If he keeps producing at his current rate, the B's will get pretty good value out of his contract, which is a lot more than I can say I thought when he signed it.

Edit: Actual numbers are 5 ENGs to 0. CONTENT!

[Endless Mike]

The Bruins have Darth Quaider to fight goons.

[bignick33]

There has been a lot of instability with the Krejci line due to the injuries to Horton and then Peverley this year. Accounting for the unusually high number of ENG goals last year, I think 27-30 goals is about par for Lucic (and, at 22 right now with 19 games to play, he'll probably indeed end up only a couple shy of 30). He's a asshole, but he's OUR asshole.

[Endless Mike]

The Bruins are adding Marty Turco as long as he clears waivers.

http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/marty-turco ... h-run.html

Also, here's a nice article about BC Guy Mike Mottau making it back to Boston:

http://www.necn.com/02/28/12/Mottau-Playing-for-Bruins-a-dream-come-t/landing_sports.html?blockID=659728&feedID=3352

[eepstein0]

The Bruins are adding Marty Turco as long as he clears waivers.

http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/marty-turco ... h-run.html

Also, here's a nice article about BC Guy Mike Mottau making it back to Boston:

http://www.necn.com/02/28/12/Mottau-Playing-for-Bruins-a-dream-come-t/landing_sports.html?blockID=659728&feedID=3352

Not sure Marty Turco has much left....

[flyingelvii]

The Bruins are adding Marty Turco as long as he clears waivers.

http://www.nesn.com/2012/03/marty-turco ... h-run.html

Also, here's a nice article about BC Guy Mike Mottau making it back to Boston:

http://www.necn.com/02/28/12/Mottau-Playing-for-Bruins-a-dream-come-t/landing_sports.html?blockID=659728&feedID=3352

Not sure Marty Turco has much left....

More than Michael Hutchinson.

[claver2010]

Crosby cleared for contact, could play as soon as Sunday vs Bs

[flyingelvii]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

[claver2010]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

[flyingelvii]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

He did okay when he came back earlier this year.

[eagle9903]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

[Dick Rosenthal]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

[eagle9903]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

[DomingoOrtiz]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

Ok, I guess I don't follow the NHL enough. Crosby is in the Lindros loathsome dick category? Lindros was one of the worst humans to ever play pro sports.

[eagle9903]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

Ok, I guess I don't follow the NHL enough. Crosby is in the Lindros loathsome dick category? Lindros was one of the worst humans to ever play pro sports.

I disliked Lindros (since about 1998) mainly because he was a coddled bitch with an overbearing father who interfered in all aspects of his life, but where does his inclusion in worst humans to play pro sports come from? I think Ty was referring to his similarly weak skull integrity, regardless.

Cindy is a whiny primadonna (like Lindros), who was told he would be the next Gretzky (like Lindros) since he was like 12, whose biggest fault is that the league wipes his ass for him (which it did not do for Lindros), cheated to get him and Malkin and Staal and Fleury on the same team so the franchise wouldn't fold. Probably most significantly he dives constantly, won't fight but has no issue taking cheap shots.

[bignick33]

I don't like the Maple Leafs.

[flyingelvii]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

Ok, I guess I don't follow the NHL enough. Crosby is in the Lindros loathsome dick category? Lindros was one of the worst humans to ever play pro sports.

I disliked Lindros (since about 1998) mainly because he was a coddled bitch with an overbearing father who interfered in all aspects of his life, but where does his inclusion in worst humans to play pro sports come from? I think Ty was referring to his similarly weak skull integrity, regardless.

Cindy is a whiny primadonna (like Lindros), who was told he would be the next Gretzky (like Lindros) since he was like 12, whose biggest fault is that the league wipes his ass for him (which it did not do for Lindros), cheated to get him and Malkin and Staal and Fleury on the same team so the franchise wouldn't fold. Probably most significantly he dives constantly, won't fight but has no issue taking cheap shots.

Crosby's problem might have also been his undiagnosed broken neck too, so it's hard to tell how much of this is concussion related and how much of it is neck recovery related. Remember, the first thing he complained about after the Caps game wasn't his head, but his neck.

[eagle9903]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

Ok, I guess I don't follow the NHL enough. Crosby is in the Lindros loathsome dick category? Lindros was one of the worst humans to ever play pro sports.

I disliked Lindros (since about 1998) mainly because he was a coddled bitch with an overbearing father who interfered in all aspects of his life, but where does his inclusion in worst humans to play pro sports come from? I think Ty was referring to his similarly weak skull integrity, regardless.

Cindy is a whiny primadonna (like Lindros), who was told he would be the next Gretzky (like Lindros) since he was like 12, whose biggest fault is that the league wipes his ass for him (which it did not do for Lindros), cheated to get him and Malkin and Staal and Fleury on the same team so the franchise wouldn't fold. Probably most significantly he dives constantly, won't fight but has no issue taking cheap shots.

Crosby's problem might have also been his undiagnosed broken neck too, so it's hard to tell how much of this is concussion related and how much of it is neck recovery related. Remember, the first thing he complained about after the Caps game wasn't his head, but his neck.

They're cagey about head injuries in general though, they said pronger had the flu then a knee injury before finally admitting a major concussion.

[flyingelvii]

I don't like the Maple Leafs.

Is it because they don't have enough Ontario boys?

[flyingelvii]

And just like that the Penguins have probably become the favorites in the East. Malkin's in Beast Mode, Letang is still out, Fleury's been solid, Staal is back. If Letang gets back and at a good level, that team is so absurdly scary.

Well I want to see Crosby play a full week but they are the most dangerous by far.

It's why it is crucial the Rangers stay #1. That 4-5 series is going to be brutal. No one trusts the SE winner so avoiding the Penguins if Crosby is healthy is key.

I really don't think Crosby makes it two weeks without getting hit again.

This. I think Crosby has entered Eric Lindros territory in that he is fragile, people know he is fragile and people will be looking to hit him every chance they get. Furthermore, Crosby is a puck-carrier. That is what makes him special. Puck carriers tend to get hit a lot and when you combine that with his fragility the career actuarial chart says it is likely to end badly sooner rather than later. I would think it was a shame if I didn't think Cindy was such a loathsome dick. In a perfect world, Ovie would smash him while simultaneously blowing out his own knees.

I think I will be watching Crosby in much the same way I watched Pat LaFontaine during his comeback with the Rangers. LaFontaine was brilliant while he played and then he collided with his own teammate on a hit that every other player in the league would have skated away from without a scratch but which resulted in LaFontaine crumpling on the ice and never playing again.

Provided that he is still alive and can still skate kind of and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it would be enjoyable for the Flyers to sign Scott Stevens to a minimal contract (I don't pretend to understand the CBA) just to head hunt Cindy on March 18.

Ok, I guess I don't follow the NHL enough. Crosby is in the Lindros loathsome dick category? Lindros was one of the worst humans to ever play pro sports.

I disliked Lindros (since about 1998) mainly because he was a coddled bitch with an overbearing father who interfered in all aspects of his life, but where does his inclusion in worst humans to play pro sports come from? I think Ty was referring to his similarly weak skull integrity, regardless.

Cindy is a whiny primadonna (like Lindros), who was told he would be the next Gretzky (like Lindros) since he was like 12, whose biggest fault is that the league wipes his ass for him (which it did not do for Lindros), cheated to get him and Malkin and Staal and Fleury on the same team so the franchise wouldn't fold. Probably most significantly he dives constantly, won't fight but has no issue taking cheap shots.

Crosby's problem might have also been his undiagnosed broken neck too, so it's hard to tell how much of this is concussion related and how much of it is neck recovery related. Remember, the first thing he complained about after the Caps game wasn't his head, but his neck.

They're cagey about head injuries in general though, they said pronger had the flu then a knee injury before finally admitting a major concussion.

Well the neck thing came from Crosby's people after he visited some guy in like January. They had missed it for like a solid year.

[bignick33]

I don't like the Maple Leafs.

Is it because they don't have enough Ontario boys?

It's the feeling of entitlement by their fans and organIzation to be good. It's also why I don't like the Knicks and the Cowboys.

[flyingelvii]

I don't like the Maple Leafs.

Is it because they don't have enough Ontario boys?

It's the feeling of entitlement by their fans and organIzation to be good. It's also why I don't like the Knicks and the Cowboys.

If it means anything, I still hold onto the memories of Doug Gilmour and Felix Potvin from their run in '94. Damn you Kirk McLean.

[bignick33]

I don't like the Maple Leafs.

Is it because they don't have enough Ontario boys?

It's the feeling of entitlement by their fans and organIzation to be good. It's also why I don't like the Knicks and the Cowboys.

If it means anything, I still hold onto the memories of Doug Gilmour and Felix Potvin from their run in '94. Damn you Kirk McLean.

[claver2010]

After the Asham goal they zoomed in on the bench to show him, saw a coach on the ipad watching video. Have never seen that before, pretty cool.

[Dick Rosenthal]

Dear Brian Boyle:

You are very tall. Dave Steckel is very tall. Dave Steckel almost ended Cindy Crosby by skating by her and letting his elbows fly naturally. No penalty, no suspension, just the joy of wtaching Cindy stagger around for months trying to remember his own name. Maybe you could try the same.

Love,
The rest of the NHL