Reggie Declares, Doesn't Hire Agent

[eepstein0]

With or without Reggie we were going to struggle next year. I would prefer to have him come back because there is no way anyone can argue that the team would not be better and have a chance to win some games with him. We arent going to the tournament regardless but it would be a lot more fun to watch a team that has a shot to win sometimes. We are Wake Forest next year without him.

And I still sa he is making a mistake. I don't pretend to know his reasons or if he has issues with Donahue, but I just don't think he is NBA ready. He will get picked in the first round, though I don't think he is a lottery pick. He needs another year to polish his game, especially his handle. He is going to get assraped by good point guards like Rose, Williams, Paul, Rondo etc. That is assuming he gets off the bench.

That said, its his life and his future and he has every right to do what he thinks is best. He has been a fun player to watch and I wish him well.

This team won't struggle with Jackson. I don't consider 20 wins struggling. Reggie makes a huge difference and Elmore is at least an athletic role player.

With Jackson & Elmore

20-10 (9-7 or so ACC)

Without Jackson & Elmore

10-20 (2-14 in the ACC)

[eepstein0]

We're going to have the same sort of record with him as we did last season. 20 wins or so and a bubble team.

This. Without him, they win about 15, unless one of the frosh is ridiculous.

I said 15 without Reggie, now that Elmore is likely leaving I am bumping that down to 13. Not because I think Elmore is particularly good, but he gives us necessary productive depth. I am glad we at least have Humphrey who has been through a year of practice.

Regardless, I want to see at least one transfer come to BC that shows promise. I do not think it matters that much whether they are freshmen who can play right away or Sophomores/Juniors who at least help balance this class I think getting one quality transfer would be excellent and if we get non-freshman we could really get this class more balanced. As it stands, outside of Humphrey, our only promising players are incoming freshmen. That sounds like a science project that will take at least a year or two to deliver the results.

Explain how they're only winning 15 if Jackson comes back? You think with the ACC Player of the Year we're winning 4 or 5 conference games?

[Art Vandelay]

With or without Reggie we were going to struggle next year. I would prefer to have him come back because there is no way anyone can argue that the team would not be better and have a chance to win some games with him. We arent going to the tournament regardless but it would be a lot more fun to watch a team that has a shot to win sometimes. We are Wake Forest next year without him.

And I still sa he is making a mistake. I don't pretend to know his reasons or if he has issues with Donahue, but I just don't think he is NBA ready. He will get picked in the first round, though I don't think he is a lottery pick. He needs another year to polish his game, especially his handle. He is going to get assraped by good point guards like Rose, Williams, Paul, Rondo etc. That is assuming he gets off the bench.

That said, its his life and his future and he has every right to do what he thinks is best. He has been a fun player to watch and I wish him well.

This team won't struggle with Jackson. I don't consider 20 wins struggling. Reggie makes a huge difference and Elmore is at least an athletic role player.

With Jackson & Elmore

20-10 (9-7 or so ACC)

Without Jackson & Elmore

10-20 (2-14 in the ACC)

If Reggie came back he'd be the only returning starter. You are losing 45 points per game and would have more Gabe Moton and Danny Rubin. Obviously the have some guys we all hope can step in and contribute, but if you think a team with only 4 guys who have any college experience is not going to struggle ou are nuts. 4 of those 4 would be Moton, who we all agreed sucked this year, Rubin, who barely played in conference play and Elmore, who I like but he is a role player at most. That is not a 20 win team. Next year we would be taking a step back no matter what.

[bcmurph]

"That is not a 20 win team. Next year we would be taking a step back no matter what"


I think this POV discounts the potential of having Humphrey and Reggie play together. Humphrey was pretty highly recruited, played 15 minutes or so as a freshman and sophomore in the PAC 10 and has been around the program for a year. I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris...Caudill+Clifford >=Southern? IMO,the key would be if Anderson can step in and make an impact right away. I feel pretty good about at least some contribution from Daniels, L Jackson, and Odio....

[joemack13]

"That is not a 20 win team. Next year we would be taking a step back no matter what"


I think this POV discounts the potential of having Humphrey and Reggie play together. Humphrey was pretty highly recruited, played 15 minutes or so as a freshman and sophomore in the PAC 10 and has been around the program for a year. I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris...Caudill+Clifford >=Southern? IMO,the key would be if Anderson can step in and make an impact right away. I feel pretty good about at least some contribution from Daniels, L Jackson, and Odio....

Agree, i'm much more concerned about the point guard position than I am about the freshman bigs. If Jackson were returning I don't think it would be crazy to say we'd have a shot at the tournie similar to this year. Not a good shot but still. The only thing I expect to be drastically worse next year is the point guard position. Everything else will work itself out, but losing Biko and even worse Reggie hurts.

[BCEagles25]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

[bcmurph]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

Didn't mean to discount their contributions at all...Just expecting at least as much from Humphrey

[BCEagles25]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

Didn't mean to discount their contributions at all...Just expecting at least as much from Humphrey

I'm not sure what to expect out of Humphrey. In a thin, talent-short, inexperienced roster, I would hope he would have at least 12ppg, 4-5rpg.

[pick6pedro]

This "attitude" crap is imaginary.

how so? The Don took away his headband. HIS HEADBAND.

[eepstein0]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

Biko contributed very little to this team outside of dribbling the ball off his leg constantly.

[apbc12]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

Didn't mean to discount their contributions at all...Just expecting at least as much from Humphrey

His contributions will be entirely different from Raji's. Hopefully he will exceed Paris'.

[BCEagles25]

Biko was a 40%+ three point shooter and a good teammate in a system that relies on both. I'd say he did fine.

[joemack13]

Not to mention he was the only serviceable point besides reggie. It's going to be a really interesting, sounds like next year's starting five could easily be made up entirely of kids who have yet to play a minute of basketball for BC.

[claver2010]

I expect him to contribute more than Raji or Paris

You seem to under-estimate how crucial these two players were to our team.

Biko contributed very little to this team outside of dribbling the ball off his leg constantly.

It's not like this team didn't miss him in the games he didn't play or anything

[claver2010]

I think we've all assumed that Reggie is gone but here are some tidbits from an aticle by Chad Ford (from Monday)...

The late lottery/mid-first round now includes Alec Burks, Kawhi Leonard, Jordan Hamilton, Donatas Motiejunas, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Mirotic, Jimmer Fredette, Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris and Reggie Jackson. Of the group, all 10 have terrific potential. It's a pretty strong middle group.

All 10 have a shot at the lottery, and few like Burks, Leonard, Hamilton, Mirotic and Jackson have pretty big upsides if they work on their weaknesses.



One foot in

We'll be watching a number of underclassmen closely over the coming weeks who are "testing the waters." That means they haven't hired agents yet and are still open to returning to school. College players have until May 8 to withdraw from the draft without losing their eligibility. Among the top players taking that option:
...
Reggie Jackson, G, Boston College
...
Jackson may be the most intriguing name on the list. He's still very much on the fence about leaving. We have him ranked No. 19 on our Big Board and a few NBA teams have him in the lottery. However, there are other teams that see him strictly as a second-round pick. He's hearing starkly different assessments from team to team. That could scare him back to school.

I believe until he has until May 8th to decide.

[EagleDave]

I think we've all assumed that Reggie is gone but here are some tidbits from an aticle by Chad Ford (from Monday)...

The late lottery/mid-first round now includes Alec Burks, Kawhi Leonard, Jordan Hamilton, Donatas Motiejunas, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Mirotic, Jimmer Fredette, Marcus Morris, Markieff Morris and Reggie Jackson. Of the group, all 10 have terrific potential. It's a pretty strong middle group.

All 10 have a shot at the lottery, and few like Burks, Leonard, Hamilton, Mirotic and Jackson have pretty big upsides if they work on their weaknesses.



One foot in

We'll be watching a number of underclassmen closely over the coming weeks who are "testing the waters." That means they haven't hired agents yet and are still open to returning to school. College players have until May 8 to withdraw from the draft without losing their eligibility. Among the top players taking that option:
...
Reggie Jackson, G, Boston College
...
Jackson may be the most intriguing name on the list. He's still very much on the fence about leaving. We have him ranked No. 19 on our Big Board and a few NBA teams have him in the lottery. However, there are other teams that see him strictly as a second-round pick. He's hearing starkly different assessments from team to team. That could scare him back to school.

I believe until he has until May 8th to decide.

Putting aside my extreme dislike for the way he competed in some of the games this year, he's in a tough spot. It's a lot of money to (potentially) pass up...in particular considering the reality that the NBA could/will be a dramatically different place if he waits. If he's got a promise in the 1st round, I'd imagine he goes for it.

[HJS]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

[eepstein0]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

That's highly unfortunate.

[BC923]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

i have been hearing this as well.

[bignick33]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

Which team guaranteed they'd draft him in the first round, if any? I assume that's what would really hasten his departure.

[Eagledom]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

same source that told you suntrup decommitted?

[gaelfu]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

same source that told you suntrup decommitted?

Why would you be all douchey and bait like this? I enjoy the contrarian shit you bring but HJS clearly has better sources than most of us, he's not always right but he's right about Spaz suckin dick and all

[HJS]

Reggie is going to stay in the draft. That's what I'm hearing from a very good source. Of course, something crazy could happen, but no one is expecting him to return.

same source that told you suntrup decommitted?

Yes OJ... the very same.

That said, you probably think it "doesn't matter".

[Bumpers]

We're going to have the same sort of record with him as we did last season. 20 wins or so and a bubble team.

This. Without him, they win about 15, unless one of the frosh is ridiculous.

If they win 15 next year without Reggie, the Don should win NCOY.

Here's the lineup:

PG - Moton / Daniels
SG - Jackson / Humphrey
SF - Rubin / Odio
PF - Anderson
C - Caudill / Clifford

You think that gets 15? I say probably only about 9. I think 15 with Reggie, because it's the same lineup, but Lonnie sees some time at PG.

The lineup will be:

Daniels
Jackson
Humphrey
Anderson
Clifford

With Rubin, Caudill, Moton, Odio and the walkon coming off the bench. They will win 15 games. And they won't lose to any Ivies.

Teddy, what do you owe me?

[claver2010]

We're going to have the same sort of record with him as we did last season. 20 wins or so and a bubble team.

This. Without him, they win about 15, unless one of the frosh is ridiculous.

If they win 15 next year without Reggie, the Don should win NCOY.

Here's the lineup:

PG - Moton / Daniels
SG - Jackson / Humphrey
SF - Rubin / Odio
PF - Anderson
C - Caudill / Clifford

You think that gets 15? I say probably only about 9. I think 15 with Reggie, because it's the same lineup, but Lonnie sees some time at PG.

The lineup will be:

Daniels
Jackson
Humphrey
Anderson
Clifford

With Rubin, Caudill, Moton, Odio and the walkon coming off the bench. They will win 15 games. And they won't lose to any Ivies.

Teddy, what do you owe me?

Right now we have 9
Miami makes 10
1st Round ACC 11
2nd Round 12
Semis 13
Finals 14
13 seed upsetting a 4, 15

HGAW

[DavidGordonsFoot]

We're going to have the same sort of record with him as we did last season. 20 wins or so and a bubble team.

This. Without him, they win about 15, unless one of the frosh is ridiculous.

If they win 15 next year without Reggie, the Don should win NCOY.

Here's the lineup:

PG - Moton / Daniels
SG - Jackson / Humphrey
SF - Rubin / Odio
PF - Anderson
C - Caudill / Clifford

You think that gets 15? I say probably only about 9. I think 15 with Reggie, because it's the same lineup, but Lonnie sees some time at PG.

The lineup will be:

Daniels
Jackson
Humphrey
Anderson
Clifford

With Rubin, Caudill, Moton, Odio and the walkon coming off the bench. They will win 15 games. And they won't lose to any Ivies.

Teddy, what do you owe me?

Right now we have 9
Miami makes 10
1st Round ACC 11
2nd Round 12
Semis 13
Finals 14
13 seed upsetting a 4, 15

HGAW

BC lack of front line size, strength has been so piss poor its incredible. Oates and Blair and Doornie and Southern and Dunn all watching the ACC DUNKATHONS in our faces and no one ends up decapitated in traction or the hospital or with a bloody lip.

Al "Lazy Elvis" Skinner's lay back defensive lack of toughness was a huge embarrasment to Boston College and when we blew the huge NCAA 3rd round lead versus Villanova and lost on the same fucking inbounds disgerace BC could never defend, I posted then I wanted Al Skinner gone and on recruiting probation and new assistants.

BC has lacked toughness for years and has had an ole defense and slam dunk contest at our defensive end for years.

I despised Al Skinner as a Head Coach almost 1/1000th as much as I did Toblunders in Al's last few years of stupid.



Our big men have been cream cheese since Rasta Boy left and he did not get huge minutes since he was a fucking idiot.

It all starts with one big splash..maybe others who decided on Providence or somewhere de-commit, you get another big guy beside him and ......

All you need is a seed and 6 wins..

All you have to do is finish 1-68?

Or maybe 52 with the 16 schlock conference with auto bids, but then again, one of them was Butler???

[claver2010]

REFIRE!