Nerlens Noel Rclassifies to 2012

[781]

Steve Hailey who is a basketball advisor to alot of these kids in New England. Hailey brings these top recruits to campus in the off season to work out with BC players all the time. The BC players actually play in his Pro-Am league. Hailey got Reggie Jackson prepared for the draft and had him working out with Wayne Selden and a couple of other kids. Don't tell me that if Stevie can still have a good relationship with the program throught the coaching changes that it can't lead to BC landing a MCD's AA or even a top 50 recruit. The problem is that Donahues system are not what top recruits want to play in. Its been said over and over again since Donahue arrived that the kids in this area were on the fence and then when coach Jones left players really backed off.

[eepstein0]

Steve Hailey who is a basketball advisor to alot of these kids in New England. Hailey brings these top recruits to campus in the off season to work out with BC players all the time. The BC players actually play in his Pro-Am league. Hailey got Reggie Jackson prepared for the draft and had him working out with Wayne Selden and a couple of other kids. Don't tell me that if Stevie can still have a good relationship with the program throught the coaching changes that it can't lead to BC landing a MCD's AA or even a top 50 recruit. The problem is that Donahues system are not what top recruits want to play in. Its been said over and over again since Donahue arrived that the kids in this area were on the fence and then when coach Jones left players really backed off.

The same system that Duke runs?

I'm pretty sure kids don't want to play in the tight-flex. As I recall, Reggie Jackson didn't even know BC ran the tight-flex when recruited.

Also, Olivier Hanlan is from a big-time prep school in New England.

Bottom-line is that if you think the system is the problem, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. A greater portion of the NCAA runs motion.

[joemack13]

I think the recruiting has gone well so far. The Don inherited a disaster, and there may have been some mis-steps, but the current freshman class obviously has the talent to compete in the ACC. Whether they can be toward the top tier of the ACC remains to be seen, but they'll at least be middle of the pack next year. Many of these freshman show promise, and if they can make the same improvement from Freshman to Sophomore year that Moton did, we're going to be in very good shape.

Winning next year will go a long way

[eepstein0]

I think the recruiting has gone well so far. The Don inherited a disaster, and there may have been some mis-steps, but the current freshman class obviously has the talent to compete in the ACC. Whether they can be toward the top tier of the ACC remains to be seen, but they'll at least be middle of the pack next year. Many of these freshman show promise, and if they can make the same improvement from Freshman to Sophomore year that Moton did, we're going to be in very good shape.

Winning next year will go a long way

I disagree with people who say realistic expectations are the NCAA Tournament next year. I think that's a little lofty. How about a winning record? This team still has no idea how to win a basketball game. The 2 wins they have were pretty much by accident or meltdown.

[MilitantEagle]

Steve Hailey who is a basketball advisor to alot of these kids in New England. Hailey brings these top recruits to campus in the off season to work out with BC players all the time. The BC players actually play in his Pro-Am league. Hailey got Reggie Jackson prepared for the draft and had him working out with Wayne Selden and a couple of other kids. Don't tell me that if Stevie can still have a good relationship with the program throught the coaching changes that it can't lead to BC landing a MCD's AA or even a top 50 recruit. The problem is that Donahues system are not what top recruits want to play in. Its been said over and over again since Donahue arrived that the kids in this area were on the fence and then when coach Jones left players really backed off.

I think it's too early to bash recruiting. Let's see what kind of success he has in the next few years with the players he brings in. The last couple of NCAA tournaments have been real eye-openers in terms of what less talented teams can accomplish - (Butler and VCU making final four appearances).

Also, Hanlan is a top 25 PG. That's decent.

[joemack13]

I think the recruiting has gone well so far. The Don inherited a disaster, and there may have been some mis-steps, but the current freshman class obviously has the talent to compete in the ACC. Whether they can be toward the top tier of the ACC remains to be seen, but they'll at least be middle of the pack next year. Many of these freshman show promise, and if they can make the same improvement from Freshman to Sophomore year that Moton did, we're going to be in very good shape.

Winning next year will go a long way

I disagree with people who say realistic expectations are the NCAA Tournament next year. I think that's a little lofty. How about a winning record? This team still has no idea how to win a basketball game. The 2 wins they have were pretty much by accident or meltdown.

I think NCAA's are a realistic reach, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. A winning record will - I think we win at least 15

[781]

Militant,

If you're around new england this weekendcome see Hnlan play this weekend in R.I. he's another Lonnie Jackson

[eepstein0]

Militant,

If you're around new england this weekendcome see Hnlan play this weekend in R.I. he's another Lonnie Jackson

Huh? Jackson and Hanlan are completely different players.

[eagle9903]

Steve Hailey who is a basketball advisor to alot of these kids in New England. Hailey brings these top recruits to campus in the off season to work out with BC players all the time. The BC players actually play in his Pro-Am league. Hailey got Reggie Jackson prepared for the draft and had him working out with Wayne Selden and a couple of other kids. Don't tell me that if Stevie can still have a good relationship with the program throught the coaching changes that it can't lead to BC landing a MCD's AA or even a top 50 recruit. The problem is that Donahues system are not what top recruits want to play in. Its been said over and over again since Donahue arrived that the kids in this area were on the fence and then when coach Jones left players really backed off.

You know hat Al had extremely limited success in New England, correct?

Here are the NE Players:

Rakim Sanders - RI
Brian Ross - MA
Steve Hailey - MA
Jermaine Watson -MA
Tyler Roche - NH

Here are the Non-NE Players of note:

Troy Bell - MN
Jared Dudley - CA
Craig Smith - CA
Reggie Jackson - CO
Tyrese Rice - TX
*** ******* - TX
Ryan Sidney - MI
Uka Agbai - NY
Kenny Harley - NY
Xavier Singletary - DC
Andrew Bryant - TX
Jonathan Beerbohm - NE
Kenny Walls - CA
Josh Southern - MI
Nate Doornekamp - Canada
John Oates - NY
Cory Raji - NJ

[bignick33]

You know hat Al had extremely limited success in New England, correct?

Here are the NE Players:

Rakim Sanders - RI
Brian Ross - MA
Steve Hailey - MA
Jermaine Watson -MA
Tyler Roche - NH

This of course begs the question of how you define "recruiting success." All of the New England guys (with the possible exception of Ross) were at least reasonably highly-regarded recruits coming out of high school. That's not the case for the Non-New England guys.

[MilitantEagle]

Militant,

If you're around new england this weekendcome see Hnlan play this weekend in R.I. he's another Lonnie Jackson

You're changing your standard. Are you more concerned about recruiting rankings or success on the court? If the former, then well, he is well regarded. If the latter, then let's see what he does at BC under Donahue's leadership.

[eagle9903]

You know hat Al had extremely limited success in New England, correct?

Here are the NE Players:

Rakim Sanders - RI
Brian Ross - MA
Steve Hailey - MA
Jermaine Watson -MA
Tyler Roche - NH

This of course begs the question of how you define "recruiting success." All of the New England guys (with the possible exception of Ross) were at least reasonably highly-regarded recruits coming out of high school. That's not the case for the Non-New England guys.

Tyler Roche was? Also, I was more pointing to the fact that there were 5 total NE players(at least who ever played) from 12 or 13 total Skinner classes.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

[bignick33]

You know hat Al had extremely limited success in New England, correct?

Here are the NE Players:

Rakim Sanders - RI
Brian Ross - MA
Steve Hailey - MA
Jermaine Watson -MA
Tyler Roche - NH

This of course begs the question of how you define "recruiting success." All of the New England guys (with the possible exception of Ross) were at least reasonably highly-regarded recruits coming out of high school. That's not the case for the Non-New England guys.

Tyler Roche was? Also, I was more pointing to the fact that there were 5 total NE players(at least who ever played) from 12 or 13 total Skinner classes.

Georgetown and NC State

[eagle9903]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

[MilitantEagle]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

[eagle9903]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

[eepstein0]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

[Hunta518]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I concur.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

[eepstein0]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

[eagle9903]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

I kind of agree with you.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

[pick6pedro]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

So you're saying he's spoiled, Geno?

[DavidGordonsFoot]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

So you're saying he's spoiled, Geno?

I see what you did there.

I do think he's spoiled, but I think he's spoiled because he insinuates that people who travel to support the teams when they are not good are stupid, not because I think his standards are too high.

[pick6pedro]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

So you're saying he's spoiled, Geno?

I see what you did there.

I do think he's spoiled, but I think he's spoiled because he insinuates that people who travel to support the teams when they are not good are stupid, not because I think his standards are too high.

Agreed - just couldn't pass up the layup.

[eepstein0]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

So you're saying he's spoiled, Geno?

I see what you did there.

I do think he's spoiled, but I think he's spoiled because he insinuates that people who travel to support the teams when they are not good are stupid, not because I think his standards are too high.

Agreed - just couldn't pass up the layup.

Didn't go to BC. But good try. The NCAA Tournament isn't that hard to make. Plenty of mediocre teams get in every year.

[pick6pedro]

They win 15 games next year going 6-10 or better in conference play and I'll be happy. 2013-14, I expect a winning record and an NIT bid at a minimum. If this team does not make the NCAAs by 2014-15, it will be time to look for a new coach.

I agree with this timeline/deadline.

Also, in agreeance. How many votes do we need to make this the official stance of EO Conte Forum board?

I don't think eepstein will ever agree with anything so un-gloomy, so everyone but him and we're good to go.

You better make the NCAA's in 2013-14. Otherwise I'm cool.

Are you also operating under the assumption that the field remains at 68 for the foreseeable future and does not go to 128 as has been suggested? Want to make sure we're on the same page here.

Field is 68. This kid will all be Juniors and it'll be Donahue's 4th year.

I think you're forgetting how tough it is to make the tournament. You were at BC for Skinner's peak and I think you learned to take it for granted.

So you're saying he's spoiled, Geno?

I see what you did there.

I do think he's spoiled, but I think he's spoiled because he insinuates that people who travel to support the teams when they are not good are stupid, not because I think his standards are too high.

Agreed - just couldn't pass up the layup.

Didn't go to BC. But good try. The NCAA Tournament isn't that hard to make. Plenty of mediocre teams get in every year.

You don't have to have gone to BC to be a "spoiled fan" in the eyes of Gene D. Fillippo. So stuff your good tries in a sack, OJ.

[Cadillac90]

This thread sucks although I appreciate 781 trying to defend my husband.

Warm Regards,
Mrs Skinner

P.S. eepstein, who gives a rat's ass that the tight flex is boring. Were you bitching when the team was 20 and fucking 0 and ranked #4 in the country?

[pick6pedro]

P.S. eepstein, who gives a rat's ass that the tight flex is boring. Were you bitching when the team was 20 and fucking 0 and ranked #4 in the country?

it's eepstein, so - yes.