Someone do me a favor re: EagleAction

[janebc]

I didn't realize he was there that long. I do remember the guy on the BC beat for the Herald repeatedly questioning how long the school would tolerate Henning; I have seen nothing of the same re: Spaz.

[Mosi]

when someone asks for a definition of a "MerryMan" show them this:

PatriotGolfer


Re: SPAZ MUST GO Reply
Mav,
I think it is universally agreed Spaz isn't the guy for the job, but do you need to call him an "incompetent buffoon" and "moron"?

Seriously....the guy has been an accomplished football coach for decades. He has been a loyal soldier at BC since 1997.

He's obviously NOT a buffoon or moron because his resume as a DC was excellent.....care to count how many NFL players he prepared for the NFL in those years??

[bcnyceagle]

when someone asks for a definition of a "MerryMan" show them this:

PatriotGolfer


Re: SPAZ MUST GO Reply
Mav,
I think it is universally agreed Spaz isn't the guy for the job, but do you need to call him an "incompetent buffoon" and "moron"?

Seriously....the guy has been an accomplished football coach for decades. He has been a loyal soldier at BC since 1997.

He's obviously NOT a buffoon or moron because his resume as a DC was excellent.....care to count how many NFL players he prepared for the NFL in those years??

I'm just shocked that PatriotGolfer even admits that he's on the #FireSpaz wagon. Virtually every single post of his for my time at EA were in defense of the staff and Spaz. I'm talking serious merryman psychosis; long posts attempting debunk anything and everything negative that could be said about the staff (including blatantly objective statistics). Did any of these hypocritical assholes give a mea culpa before they decided to admit that everything they've said for the past few years was complete and utter bullshit?

[31southst]

Presented without comment:

Guys I know I'll be whacked in the thread for my comments but I have been bored with the negativity of the board and terribly disappointed in the play of the team.
I am a contributor (very small) to the Barber head coaching chair at BC and have been for many years. I made my choice to donate specifically for that chair because out of all I see in FB success the one constant is continuity. I feel I am qualified to comment as I have been a 35 year fan and a season ticket holder for over 13 yrs.

Our issues are several and all well documented youth, injuries etc. One thing we do not share much thought on the board is the QB. Its been a hole in the BC team now for 3 yrs. In other years we have had a supporting cast of good players around average QB's leading to winning records.
Chase Rettig has not progressed, not shown flashes of brilliance, not made plays with his feet. Its time we addressed the real issue on the field. I love the kids heart, his short throws to the wideouts but he is now gunshy from getting hit and his decision making is getting worse.

You can have good solid players around an average QB and win and then every now and again speacial QB's come along and you get some great years. In my BC fan history I have watched QB's elevate their teamates Kruchek, Flutie, Halloran (senior yr only)Foley, Peterson and Ryan. Take anyone of those QB's off the field for any reason and those teams would have looked like a .500 club. So my point is that our problem is QB.

Continuity is more important than the next Media savvy coach that is all about coming in to BC and predicting instant success. I am so sick and tired of this season and the money influences in CFB and the distortion and the distortion it has created in the game I love. Whether it be Oregon recruiting, Miami donors, Penn St scandels, ND death and rapes I want to stay the course and not go for the quick hope to find a better coach.

If anyone thinks this staff has forgotten the X&O's you're dumb and if your think that this staff lost the team emotionally all you had to do was see the game yesterday from the stands. They played hard and never gave up.

The issue of recruiting is still an open quesiton and it is the hardest one for me to give Spaz a waiver on. But having watched the team all year and Tivo the games and watch them during the week you can see where some of the younger players are playing much better. Including Aspirilla, Duggan and deVitto on D and Vardaro, Evans on the KO team.
Where we are not getting progress is at QB and I would propose this is a sophmore slump and a clear regression for Chase.

Finally we knnow this team is young. As all former players can attest its one thing to get on the field as a frosh or sophmore its another to sense when a play is coming and to pick up the little signs in the speed of the game to make a play.
Its not coincidence that yesterday our stars were upperclassman, watch the replay of Fletchers interception and note he broke for the corner before the receiver did, thats experience, Max made the exact same play he won the game at Duke with last year when he blocked an inside slant play, thats expereince and Kukes was just a monster with what 9 or 10 tackles in the last 8 mins?
Without an above average QB you need upperclassman to win games, unfortunately this yr we have a below average QB and not enough upper classman.

I vote SPAZ stays and much like WF who had a disaster season last year, we stay the course and put together a winning season next year and beyond.

Jack 76

[HJS]

"Continuity" is what got us here. "Continuity" is the reason why Spaz was hired. "Continuity" is the reason why 75% of the assistants were retained from Jags. "Continuity" is why BC is what it is.

If anyone thinks this staff has forgotten the X&O's you're dumb

If anyone thinks this this staff ever knew the X&O's you're dumb (as the sentence structure of that statement would suggest).

[Reverend Mike]

Presented without comment:

I am a contributor (very small) to the Barber head coaching chair at BC and have been for many years. I made my choice to donate specifically for that chair because out of all I see in FB success the one constant is continuity.

I am so sick and tired of this season and the money influences in CFB and the distortion and the distortion it has created in the game I love.

I vote SPAZ stays and much like WF who had a disaster season last year, we stay the course and put together a winning season next year and beyond.

Jack 76

So this asshole doesn't like the fact that donors call the shots in college football, but he wants a vote on who the coach is because he donates money.

[bcnyceagle]

Its interesting that so many posters on EA are quick to trash Chase, but most of the people who actually watch the football games realizes that its predominantly a major issue with the O-line. My only guess at an explanation is that the merrymen are desperate for any reason to avoid blaming Spaz, and, realizing that the whole youth and injuries excuse is getting a bit ridiculous, they're looking to the players to find someone to deflect the blame at. Of course, the most obvious choice when you have offensive problems is the quarterback.

One of the things that always amazed me about that board was how, when you compared the game day comments on EA to the game comments on EO, you wouldn't have even known that they were watching the same game in many cases. Its like they see their own imaginations playing out on the field, validating all their assumptions, despite how totally detached from reality their assumptions were. Then they all turn into lemmings once an idea gets picked up by a more influential poster.

[2008Eagle]

"Fans" like this are part of the problem. Ever to excuse mediocrity.

[HJS]

Can we stop with the mediocrity shit? 3-9 is downright fucktastic. Very few BCS teams have had a 3-9 season recently. Mediocre (which I would define as 7-8 wins for a BCS team on a 12-game schedule) isn't in sight anymore.

[bignick33]

I dont believe PatriotGolfer is real.

[DrJackRyan]

MacCallum Foote, from Noble and Greenough ...was not good enough for us after camping here two summers. Sophomore, Middlebury College..... 6'5 220 lbs. Two weeks ago, he was the leading passer in the NCAA and missed a game due to injury. He would have thrown for close to 3,000 yards in 8 games. I do not care what the competition is, we screwed up.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

MacCallum Foote, from Noble and Greenough ...was not good enough for us after camping here two summers. Sophomore, Middlebury College..... 6'5 220 lbs. Two weeks ago, he was the leading passer in the NCAA and missed a game due to injury. He would have thrown for close to 3,000 yards in 8 games. I do not care what the competition is, we screwed up.

i bet he would call hampton hughes a new-money whore

Same guy that started out at BROWN, and transferred to Middlebury because he couldn't get on the field at Brown. Dedham really is unbelievable.

[claver2010]

MacCallum Foote, from Noble and Greenough ...was not good enough for us after camping here two summers. Sophomore, Middlebury College..... 6'5 220 lbs. Two weeks ago, he was the leading passer in the NCAA and missed a game due to injury. He would have thrown for close to 3,000 yards in 8 games. I do not care what the competition is, we screwed up.

A guy on my intramural football team could really wing it, 6'2" 210 threw for about 150 yards per game (but double that cause we played on 50 yard fields), so really 300 yards per game. I don't care what hte competition is, we screwed up.

[NotoriousOrange]

For reasons known only to themselves, the merry tide seems to be turning back to the approval camp.

The lemming reaction is an interesting phenomenon. Herzlich's dad scolded that board for placing blame and being negative and it has resulted in a day's worth of "Herzy's right....I super triple support the team" posts.

It turns out that we shouldn't be so hard on the coaches. Negativity is bad.

I believe he challenged everyone to a fist fight before editing his post. There were a few takers on the fight invite. Good stuff.

Actually, he signed it with his full name and provided his telephone number. Then a number of dopes provided their phone numbers and full names so they could discuss it via a phone call. Seriously the dude must have been under heavy medication or drinking as he removed his personal information the next morning.

someone should have set up a conference call with all these message board warriors.

listing phone numbers on message boards is only appropriate after matt ryan pulls unbelievable stuff out of his nether regions and you want someone to call you and tell you when the team bus returns to town. any other time and its just douchie!

I laughed really hard at this post - Thx for the humor TRE

[HJS]

I got this emailed to me. If this was truly written (and not someone fucking with me), I may sign-up for EA just to beat the shit out of whoever wrote this.

This moral victory is something that the team can build on for the future. If you squinted really hard while watching this game you could see flashes of the well oiled machine that this BC team will be next year. I don't even think I am going out on a limb when I say that we could be undefeated next year. You have to view this season as the launching pad to greatness that it is. BC is a fine sword being tempered in a crucible of difficult losses, youth and unexpected adversities. We have a coaching staff that has soldiered on despite being unfairly maligned by fairweather BC Fans. A chemistry is being formed between the players and the coaching staff; a chemistry that will lead to great success. The players can see it, that is why they haven't given up in a single game this year. The coaches can see it and they are building on it little by little. If you can't see it, then shame on you.

BC Football is so close to greatness.. Just a few more steps and we will be there. Watching this team grow up right before my eyes is awe-inspiring. When we are 11-0 next year and in the thick of the BCS hunt, I will have tears in my eyes when I think how I saw the greatest team in BC history being born.

GO BC! Ever to Excel.

[bcnyceagle]

That has to be facetious. Tears in their eyes? No way.

[HJS]

Then it's my bad. I probably should've realized that it was bullshit... was supposed to be written by a poster I never heard before (Irontooth?). As campion would say, I am an easy mark... besides, given the retardedness of that board, I'd pretty much believe anything.

[BrightonEagle]

yesterday was really the worst possible outcome. we didn't get the satisfaction of a win, but we gave people like these guys on ea the false belief that things are getting better and we need to keep spaz to build on this "momentum"

[eagle9903]

The posters over there are not really doing what I'd expected. I have not really seen a serious version of the post HJS quoted above, which as he realized is pretty clearly not serious. Sure there are and will be some at some point this week.

They are, however, true to form shitting on any player whose name they can remember. ALJ and Rettig are subject to many such posts.

Also a few of them have a weird obsession with Jim Turner.

[HJS]

My buddy tells me he wasn't bullshitting and it was an honest-to-goodness Rah-Rah post... he claims this link gets you there.
http://bostoncollege.rivals.com/showmsg ... Override=1

Can anyone confirm?

[31southst]

My buddy tells me he wasn't bullshitting and it was an honest-to-goodness Rah-Rah post... he claims this link gets you there.
http://bostoncollege.rivals.com/showmsg ... Override=1

Can anyone confirm?

Apparently it is, by someone named Irontooth. I have no idea if it's said seriously or not - that name doesn't ring a bell for me.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

There is a thread full of people advocating BC to bring back Jim Turner as OL coach (OK, I think we could probably do better but we could also do worse and he'd certainly be an upgrade over Devine)....only a number of them, not a majority but quite a few, are legitimately advocating he be hired as head coach. One of them (LoST) can be forgiven because he's personal friends with Turner and is obviously biased, but the rest have no personal ties to the man yet seriously think a guy who's never even been a coordinator at the college level and is currently a 56-year-old position coach at a peer program would be a fine choice for head coach.

Oh. My. God.

[weinerdog]

There is a thread full of people advocating BC to bring back Jim Turner as OL coach (OK, I think we could probably do better but we could also do worse and he'd certainly be an upgrade over Devine)....only a number of them, not a majority but quite a few, are legitimately advocating he be hired as head coach. One of them (LoST) can be forgiven because he's personal friends with Turner and is obviously biased, but the rest have no personal ties to the man yet seriously think a guy who's never even been a coordinator at the college level and is currently a 56-year-old position coach at a peer program would be a fine choice for head coach.

Oh. My. God.

Hang on, easy with the "peer program" statements. We HAVE no peer programs anymore. I mean, we're about the 5th best team in Massachusetts.

[ATLeagle]

There is a thread full of people advocating BC to bring back Jim Turner as OL coach (OK, I think we could probably do better but we could also do worse and he'd certainly be an upgrade over Devine)....only a number of them, not a majority but quite a few, are legitimately advocating he be hired as head coach. One of them (LoST) can be forgiven because he's personal friends with Turner and is obviously biased, but the rest have no personal ties to the man yet seriously think a guy who's never even been a coordinator at the college level and is currently a 56-year-old position coach at a peer program would be a fine choice for head coach.

Oh. My. God.

Jim Turner will never get a sniff of the job as long as GDF is still around. Plus Sherman is about to get run at Texas A&M.

[PhillyandBCEagles]

These people insist on continuing to use the argument that Jags was a failure at BC and was clearly a horrible coach all along, as evidenced by the fact that he washed out at Tampa. No matter how many times I bring up names like Saban, Spurrier, Petrino, and Carroll, they can't seem to wrap their heads around the idea that plenty of guys are good college coaches and bad NFL coaches.

[TheGuru]

Paints about as rosy a picture of the state of BC football as I do. He clearly was being facetious. I believe he has been aboard the $hitcan Spaz brigade for a long time now.

[weinerdog]

These people insist on continuing to use the argument that Jags was a failure at BC and was clearly a horrible coach all along, as evidenced by the fact that he washed out at Tampa. No matter how many times I bring up names like Saban, Spurrier, Petrino, and Carroll, they can't seem to wrap their heads around the idea that plenty of guys are good college coaches and bad NFL coaches.

If he's such a good college coach then why is he never considered when colleges have openings? I haven't heard his name on ESPN since the NFL canned him. Looks to me like BC fired a guy that no one else wants either.

Well, there's this from CBS Sports: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33094299

[claver2010]

These people insist on continuing to use the argument that Jags was a failure at BC and was clearly a horrible coach all along, as evidenced by the fact that he washed out at Tampa. No matter how many times I bring up names like Saban, Spurrier, Petrino, and Carroll, they can't seem to wrap their heads around the idea that plenty of guys are good college coaches and bad NFL coaches.

If he's such a good college coach then why is he never considered when colleges have openings? I haven't heard his name on ESPN since the NFL canned him. Looks to me like BC fired a guy that no one else wants either.

You must've missed Vin-aggedon

[NotoriousOrange]

There is a thread full of people advocating BC to bring back Jim Turner as OL coach (OK, I think we could probably do better but we could also do worse and he'd certainly be an upgrade over Devine)....only a number of them, not a majority but quite a few, are legitimately advocating he be hired as head coach. One of them (LoST) can be forgiven because he's personal friends with Turner and is obviously biased, but the rest have no personal ties to the man yet seriously think a guy who's never even been a coordinator at the college level and is currently a 56-year-old position coach at a peer program would be a fine choice for head coach.

Oh. My. God.

Turner is around 45 right?

[DavidGordonsFoot]

How are the merrymen reacting to Gene's labeling of Spaz as the best BC football coach in the last 15 years?