pick6pedro wrote: innocentbystander wrote: pick6pedro wrote: innocentbystander wrote: bignick33 wrote: innocentbystander wrote:
bignick33 wrote:Nospace, do you know what slavery is?
Do you know what involuntary servitude is?
If I were a freed slave, I'd be bullshit at your suggestion that a voluntary unpaid internship is the same as slavery. I'd also be bullshit at your assertion that higher education is an inalienable right. Oh, the ironing.
Higher education is not an inalienable right. But demanding to be financially compensated for serving someone (that you don't volunteer to serve) is Constitutional. These students are not criminals and their desire to NOT intern, is a legitimate one. A university has no place or right requiring students serve for free, anywhere. You might be able to get away with that in other countries, but students shouldn't have to tolerate that crap, here.
So the student can't leave the school or (gasp!) transfer credits to a different one?
happens all the time. happened that way for (gasp!) me.
best decision I could make at the time.
So there was no force then? You graduated without serving as a coffee wench, right?
that's correct, i never had to do any internships.
now, the first school that I attended did have internships (the bulk of which were unpaid) but that was only for the liberal arts majors, mostly those who wanted to work in CJ, Journalism, etc, especially photography. it wasn't that way for Comp Sci (I don't know of ANY engineering on Comp Sci students who would ever have worked for free), but I would have had to do a Co-Op. At the time, the Comp Sci Co-Ops only paid about $11-$13/hour, maybe a smidgen more, but that was still pretty good "kid" money for upstate New York in the late 1980s.
I think those unpaid internships are mostly just for theater, journalism, English majors, maybe business administration, economics, etc. You aren't going to see that with the techies, so to speak. I guess I can understand why so many of you here vehemently defend the irrationality of the unpaid internship, too many of you had to do them at BC, probably figure that since you had to do them, so does everyone else.