Bruins Weirdos

[flyingelvii]

I hate being out of the country for the two most important days of the NHL offseason. And I love me some Dougie Hamilton.

[claver2010]

Dear Rangers:

Please do not sign Richards.

Hugs & Kisses,
Claver2010

We'll see about this...

[flyingelvii]

Now that it's finished:

TOR gets:
P. Kessel

BOS gets:
T. Seguin
J. Knight
D. Hamilton
Stanley Cup Championship

I like that trade a lot.

[eagle9903]

Maxim Talbot to the Flyers for a 5 (!) year deal worth 9 million. This is a minor addition, but I see the Flyers as being a pain in the ass to play against.

did you see this signing was likely a CBA violation? What a bunch of dumbasses

[bignick33]

Maxim Talbot to the Flyers for a 5 (!) year deal worth 9 million. This is a minor addition, but I see the Flyers as being a pain in the ass to play against.

did you see this signing was likely a CBA violation? What a bunch of dumbasses

It's possible that Holmgren is an evil genius, but more likely is that he's simply a doofus.

[eepstein0]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

[bignick33]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

I was disappointed when gagne signed for 2/$7 mil with LA. That type if player at that type of cost would have been optimal.

[eepstein0]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

I was disappointed when gagne signed for 2/$7 mil with LA. That type if player at that type of cost would have been optimal.

Gagne is way too soft for the Bs style of play, although they need someone who can put the puck in the net. Let's not pretend that scoring wasn't a problem last year because it still was.

[flyingelvii]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

Corvo has a cap hit of $2.25M. And signing Seguin to an extension would be dumb right now. Sure he has a ton of potential but you literally have no idea what his ceiling is going to be. Not to mention I doubt he wants to sign an extension, precisely because of that. I imagine Krejci will get signed somewhere close to the season and can't really gauge anything on Tuukka, so I imagine nothing will get done with him until the end of the season. Marchand is not going to turn out to be another Kessel situation.

[bignick33]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

Corvo has a cap hit of $2.25M. And signing Seguin to an extension would be dumb right now. Sure he has a ton of potential but you literally have no idea what his ceiling is going to be. Not to mention I doubt he wants to sign an extension, precisely because of that. I imagine Krejci will get signed somewhere close to the season and can't really gauge anything on Tuukka, so I imagine nothing will get done with him until the end of the season. Marchand is not going to turn out to be another Kessel situation.

Marshmont is likely still too drunk to legally enter into a contract.

[flyingelvii]

Do you think he's put a shirt on yet?

[bignick33]

Do you think he's put a shirt on yet?

While I don't know what to make of him, I like him. I also like that the Bruins had to tell him to leave Boston and go back to Halifax.

[eagle9903]

double post

[eagle9903]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

I was disappointed when gagne signed for 2/$7 mil with LA. That type if player at that type of cost would have been optimal.

Gagne is way too soft for the Bs style of play, although they need someone who can put the puck in the net. Let's not pretend that scoring wasn't a problem last year because it still was.

Gagne is not too soft for the Bs style of play, People have always thrown that around a lot and I think its 75% the frog name 25% the fact he's got a bad injury history. He's a great defensive forward and has nice +/-, typically not associated with soft players. Unless soft = injury prone, he is that, Gagne's problem is he is one head shot away from retirement.

[bignick33]

Kaberle to Carolina for about $4mil per year over 3 years. Seems a bit steep. The Bruins trade a 4th Round Pick for Joe Corvo who only carries a cap hit of $1.9mil and will be a UFA after next season. Seems like another great move for the Bruins. This should give them Chara-Seidenberg, Ference-Corvo, Boychuk-McQuaid next season with Kampfer providing insurance as the next guy if injury strikes. The B's should also go out and side a Shane Hnidy type guy (except not him because he's horrible) to serve as #7 D and healthy scratch at the NHL Level so Kampfer can play big-time minutes in Providence and continue his development. Have to love what the B's are doing on Defense especially with Dougie Hamilton now in the pipe-line.

They need to sign Marchand, Krejci, Rask and Seguin now while they have the money. They also still need one more top-end forward after Ryder left. Preferably someone with speed.

I was disappointed when gagne signed for 2/$7 mil with LA. That type if player at that type of cost would have been optimal.

Gagne is way too soft for the Bs style of play, although they need someone who can put the puck in the net. Let's not pretend that scoring wasn't a problem last year because it still was.

Gagne is not too soft for the Bs style of play, People have always thrown that around a lot and I think its 75% the frog name 25% the fact he's got a bad injury history. He's a great defensive forward and has nice +/-, typically not associated with soft players. Unless soft = injury prone, he is that, Gagne's problem is he is one head shot away from retirement.

I tend to agree with you. We're not talking about an older Phil Kessel. And, even if we were, 2/7mil for a guy who's scored 40 goals twice and 30 guys a few times too is short money (even including the injuries). This is the same money that Michael Ryder got from Dallas.

[eepstein0]

My guess is that they give Jordan Caron a chance to earn a spot on the 3rd line and go with the in-house option since the FA options are so horrible.

[bignick33]

My guess is that they give Jordan Caron a chance to earn a spot on the 3rd line and go with the in-house option since the FA options are so horrible.

FWIW, Caron actually earned it out of camp last year, but lost his scoring touch he displayed in the preseason once the real games started. I assume they like him a lot, because he's very responsible defensively.

They'll have tons of chips and $$ to make significant moves at the trading deadline.

[flyingelvii]

Yeah, I figure they let a couple of young guys battle it out for a spot on the big club and then look to add somebody a couple of months in, ideally someone in the final year of their deal given the contracts that are up at the end of the year and the expiring CBA, which will probably bring about a bit of a rollback in the cap so as to prevent another money-throwing fest at FAs that happened this year.

As far as the young guys go, I'd handicap Caron as the favorite with Knight and Spooner, who almost made the team last year but had to get sent back to Juniors because of the AHL age rules, coming in behind. Sauve could do something but he was pretty unspectacular in Providence last year and Koko probably needs another season of...seasoning, what with last year being his first year in North America. Not sure if he can split out to the wing at all but he's definitely one to watch.

[bignick33]

I wanted to see the Bruins target Steve Sullivan to fill the role that Recchi was originally brought into fulfill (leadership and power play specialist), but he signed with Pittsburgh.

[DomingoOrtiz]

I wanted to see the Bruins target Steve Sullivan to fill the role that Recchi was originally brought into fulfill (leadership and power play specialist), but he signed with Pittsburgh.

The Richi stories are legendary.

[shockdoct]

Lots of praise for Tommy Cross in this article:

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bru ... ra/?page=1

[claver2010]

Not Bruins related but not starting a thread for the Rangers...

Boyle OKs pact with Rangers
By LARRY BROOKS

The three most straight forward Group II deals are done for the Rangers, with Brian Boyle having agreed yesterday to a three-year contract worth $1.7 million per.

But now having taken care of contracts for support players Boyle, Artem Anisimov and Michael Sauer, the Blueshirts are faced with the challenge of signing lynchpin bookend wingers Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky, each of whom has filed for salary arbitration.

Dubinsky, whose hearing is scheduled for next Thursday, is two years away from unrestricted free agency under terms of the current collective bargaining agreement. The Rangers would be expected to elect a two-year arbitration award should the parties be unable to agree on a long-term contract prior to the hearing.

Callahan, however, would be eligible to hit the open market next July 1 if the Rangers are unable to sign him to a long-term deal before then. As such, there is more urgency to avoid arbitration with Callahan, whose hearing is scheduled for July 28 and can only receive a one-year award.

Boyle had a breakout year -- or at least a breakout first-half -- for the Blueshirts to gain a whopping 224-percent increase over the $525,000 he earned last season. The $1.7M is at least twice what a team would slot for a fourth-line center.

The 6-7, 245-pound, 26-year-old pivot spent last summer training with skating instructor Barbara Underhill and thereby saved an NHL career going nowhere fast. Boyle, who had scored a total of 12 goals in 107 matches over his first three NHL seasons, recorded 21 last year in 15:44 per . . . but scored only one goal in the last 19 games and three in the final 30 as he seemed to wear down.

Boyle, who amped up his physical game in combining most of the year with winger Brandon Prust, at both even-strength and on a penalty-kill tandem, led the Rangers with 25 shots in the five-game playoff defeat to the Caps but failed to record a point.

Callahan and Dubinsky are both expected to come in at between $3.7-and-$4.4M per should their cases go to arbitration, and somewhat more than that on long-term deals.

The Blueshirts, who are still hunting for a veteran third-pair defenseman, do not face a pressing summer cap issue. But the club's rate of spending likely means that roster decisions will ultimately be shaped by the cap.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/boyle_oks_pact_with_rangers_8RXTIfh1ddI45wHvNrxFYL#ixzz1SBBPpJZ0

[bignick33]

I took about three hours of Broons talk here before the topic of conversation became "will Beckett win the Cy Young?" I've always been a fan of the Broons (albeit 3rd or 4th), am glad that they won, think it is pretty awesome that the people jumped on the bandwagon, but clearly recognize that the water cooler talk will be about Andrew Miller making a start against the Padres Monday by 4:00 this afternoon.

I hate guys with big arms but no control. Fool's gold.

I don't disagree, but sometimes those guys just get called up too soon before they can harness their shit. That was certainly the case with Miller in Detroit. He's been pretty damn good in Pawtucket. Guy's just turned 26 years old, throws really flipping hard, and is 3-3 with a 2.47 ERA in AAA, with 61 Ks in 65 IP.

Yea, but there are too many variables to project that this will continue. I know he's only walked a few guys over his last handful of starts there. It's not unusual for guys to show good control in the minors but not in the majors.

*I hope that it's a maturity/command issue and that he isn't a headcase.

LISTEN UP! This thread is about the Bruins. Can't you just give us a few days to celebrate our win?

Andrew Miller has given the Sox some decent innings against really bad teams. I maintain that he's fool's gold.

[flyingelvii]

His control issues are cropping back up again too. Walk rate is stupidly high right now. No way in hell he can keep up these same numbers. I expect him to be shelled in at least one of his next handful of starts.

[bignick33]

His control issues are cropping back up again too. Walk rate is stupidly high right now. No way in hell he can keep up these same numbers. I expect him to be shelled in at least one of his next handful of starts.

The one time he pitched against a half-decent offense (Tampa), he was shelled. But, they've won 5 out of his 6 starts, which is better than we could have hoped for. The longer they keep rolling with him, the more they're playing with fire, but I have no complaints with how this has transpired.

[flyingelvii]

Yeah, it's all smoke and mirrors at this point. Somebody had to take Dice-K's spot.

Mods, please move this to Nick's love-child board.

[claver2010]

What did the Mets fans smoke you guys out of the baseball board?

[flyingelvii]

I think they just bankrupted it.

[claver2010]

I think they just bankrupted it.

[bignick33]

Here is a hatchet job on Richards and Carter from the Philly Daily News. Whether it's entirely true, partially true, or not true at all, what are the chances that this stuff is coming directly from the Flyers organization and the writer is in their pocket? I'd say they're very high. I find the proclamations of denial from Holmgren to be very disingenuous. Paul Holmgren doth protest too much.

I hate it when teams throw players or former players under the bus as a PR move. The Red Sox have done it quite a bit since the change in ownership, and I've called them out about it repeatedly. I find it to be manipulative and shady. Controlling PR is good business, but treating the most important commodity (the players) poorly is very bad business.

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainm ... ross_.html