commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:bignick33 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:So what's your argument? That Ewing missed arguably the most important shot in his career and for that he shouldn't be considered?
And what will Garnett be remembered for...needing two perennial allstars and a great young PG to finally win or that anything is possible gay shit?
KG is a hundred times better defensively than Ewing was. KG makes his teammates better with his attitude (see Celtics team defensive turnaround). This is the epitome of leadership. Ewing didn't make his teammates better because he was quiet (and out of shape by end of his career). They are even offensively. KG is the better passer.
KG >> Ewing.
It's this team aspect, which is so patently evident with Garnett (Exhibit A: how much better do the Celtics look in this year's playoffs and the 2008 playoffs as opposed to the 2009 playoffs -WHAT'S DIFFERENT?; Exhibit B: the T'Wolves were very good with absolute shit around him, with guys like Spree and Cassell playing the best ball of their careers). It's also this team aspect that makes one reconsider Kareem. He was a piece to surround Magic or Oscar.
That said Kareem is within striking distance of my top 20. Ewing, not so much.
What's different? They have a top 3 PG now. Hands down. No question about it. Rondo is more valuable to the team than Garnett. Rondo was good last year, but he is elite now.
You take Rondo out of this playoff season and there's a good chance the Celtics are sitting at home right now. You take Garnett out of this playoff season and there's a good chance the Celtics are still playing.
You take Garnett off this team and you get last season. Was Rondo a top 3 PG in 2008? Did he just forget in 2009? Garnett is the X factor for the Celtics, and everyone that watches them know it. He's the key. It's not even really debateable.
No. Most people think Rondo is the key, especially right now.
But I'm done with this. I'm obviously not going to change your opinion and you're obviously not going to change mine.
So why did they win in 2008, but not last year? Presumably Rondo improved from his sophomore season. Garnett missed the playoffs last year and 15 games this season. The Celtics weren't good over both stretches.