DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
Non-issue. BC can lower standards for a few players. Also, Duke doesnt seemto have a problem with academics.
Logitano {l Wrote}:There were some complaints in the administration that Skinner was given too much wiggle room on bringing in marginal players.
bignick33 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:There were some complaints in the administration that Skinner was given too much wiggle room on bringing in marginal players.
If I recall, the complaints were about the character of some of the individuals he was bringing in. So, his academic leeway was decreased. It made a lot of sense.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:bignick33 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:There were some complaints in the administration that Skinner was given too much wiggle room on bringing in marginal players.
If I recall, the complaints were about the character of some of the individuals he was bringing in. So, his academic leeway was decreased. It made a lot of sense.
Akida McClain, Andrew Bryant and say hello.
Logitano {l Wrote}: This year they are making chicken salad out of chicken crap.
Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Being from the NY area and growing up going to double headers at MSG, it is good that basketball is finally relevant.
Will Lavin take them to the promised land of FFs? No
But it's nice that MSG isn't 1/5th full for these games.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
tell the truth... are you luigi carnesecca's kid?
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
tell the truth... are you luigi carnesecca's kid?
The Logitano family and the carnie-seccas are in a blood feud, thank you very much. I would beat that dago to a pulp if I ever saw him.
well yeah, now that he looks like dick clark
Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
tell the truth... are you luigi carnesecca's kid?
The Logitano family and the carnie-seccas are in a blood feud, thank you very much. I would beat that dago to a pulp if I ever saw him.
well yeah, now that he looks like dick clark
Fine I will beat up both louie and westchester native dick clark. Dick Clark is from the same town as Denzel, Sean John and Ben Gordon so I am bringing a knife to this fight. I am not afraid of them.
BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
tell the truth... are you luigi carnesecca's kid?
The Logitano family and the carnie-seccas are in a blood feud, thank you very much. I would beat that dago to a pulp if I ever saw him.
well yeah, now that he looks like dick clark
Fine I will beat up both louie and westchester native dick clark. Dick Clark is from the same town as Denzel, Sean John and Ben Gordon so I am bringing a knife to this fight. I am not afraid of them.
Just like a dago to bring a knife to a gunfight
Logitano {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Guess it depends on your definition of "pretender." I agree that Lavin will get SJU ranked, stock up on McDonald's All-Americans, and make a few sweet 16 appearances. But he will not get SJU over the hump/into the Final Four.
I would not mark a team as a "pretender" based on not making a final 4 but I do see your point. I think a sweet 16/elite 8 run and a possible big east title are what I am thinking make Lavin a homerun. Things had been so bad for SJU for such a long time that even making the tournie at this point is significant progress. Fact of the matter is I do not even like the redstorm. It is a long island trash school (no offense to anyone from LI or went to SJU) but I just see this as a good thing for NY basketball.
tell the truth... are you luigi carnesecca's kid?
The Logitano family and the carnie-seccas are in a blood feud, thank you very much. I would beat that dago to a pulp if I ever saw him.
well yeah, now that he looks like dick clark
Fine I will beat up both louie and westchester native dick clark. Dick Clark is from the same town as Denzel, Sean John and Ben Gordon so I am bringing a knife to this fight. I am not afraid of them.
Just like a dago to bring a knife to a gunfight
Under what pretense did you think it was ok to refer to me as a dago?
Art Vandelay {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
Tha argument works a lot better with football where you need to have 60 guys. You should be able to find 10 guys who are good at basketball and not complete morons.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:They are still coached by Lavin. Pretenders.
They might not be totally ready for primetime this year but this is pretty remarkable. A lavin coached team will have clunkers and huge wins but SJU if you are an SJU fan you are over the moon. The redstorm are not going to be in the pretender group for much longer. If you know anything about Lavin pulling the rabbit out of the hat is what he does quite well. I said it before the season and I will say it again his hiring by SJU is a homerun. Mike Rice to RU is a grand slam.
This board does have a person with a degree from St. John's (law degree but whatevs), care to chime in Mod34barinthus?
Let's call a spade a spade though here, it's a little easier to recruit at St. John's and Rutgers where literacy is the academic standards than BC. More than half of St. John's and Rutgers class next season would not qualify at BC.
auggiebc {l Wrote}:it's quite amazing the difference Lavin has made for that program in just, what, 6 months? This is a team that was 6-12 in conference last year, playing in their campus gym in front of 3,000 people. A year later they are on national TV at MSG giving the #4 team in the country all they can handle...and are in line for a 5 seed (or better) in the NCAA tournament. With one of the best recruiting classes in the nation coming in next year.
gotta give this guy some major credit.
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