twballgame9 {l Wrote}:In Allen's defense, he locked up Kobe for most of this series. That takes a lot out of the shooting legs. Last night, he shot 3-14, but Kobe was like 4 for 21 at some point.
EagleDave {l Wrote}:All credit to Ray Allen for the defense he played on Kobe Bryant, but that is not what he's paid to do. He's paid to hit 3's and be an offensive weapon. Everyone wants to look at how well he played for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs and after the trade deadline, but that doesn't excuse what went on for 4 months where he was awful or at least below average.
Ray seems to understand the business side of this, in that he's going to take a big pay cut. But, I don't think it's beneficial to the Celtics in the long term to bring him back, even at a reduced rate (unless we're talking midlevel exception money). You've got to believe he's going to want to be shown some respect for his contributions and be offered roughly 2 years at 8-10 mil. That's too much for a guy who would be 37 by the end of that contract and sucking up 15% of your payroll.
Thanks for the memories Ray, you were a warrior, but bidness is bidness.
gaelfu {l Wrote}:The Celtics should let him go and focus on rebuilding around Rondo. They are not going to win any more titles with PP, KG, and Allen. Every NBA team must go through a transitional period as their stars age and their skills decline. The sooner the Celtics accept this fact the better. Teams that try and hold on for too long can end up lottery-bound for years until they hit it big in the draft once again.
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:Do you realize his cap was $19M and could fit Lebron?
Wallace and a few others could get Stoudamire or Lee?
Lee Lebron Rondo Pierce 2 more Garnett 1 more???
Plus mid cap subs???
Knicks own LeBron..and odds yet?
EagleDave {l Wrote}:All credit to Ray Allen for the defense he played on Kobe Bryant, but that is not what he's paid to do. He's paid to hit 3's and be an offensive weapon. Everyone wants to look at how well he played for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs and after the trade deadline, but that doesn't excuse what went on for 4 months where he was awful or at least below average.
Ray seems to understand the business side of this, in that he's going to take a big pay cut. But, I don't think it's beneficial to the Celtics in the long term to bring him back, even at a reduced rate (unless we're talking midlevel exception money). You've got to believe he's going to want to be shown some respect for his contributions and be offered roughly 2 years at 8-10 mil. That's too much for a guy who would be 37 by the end of that contract and sucking up 15% of your payroll.
Thanks for the memories Ray, you were a warrior, but bidness is bidness.
1981Eagle {l Wrote}:EagleDave {l Wrote}:All credit to Ray Allen for the defense he played on Kobe Bryant, but that is not what he's paid to do. He's paid to hit 3's and be an offensive weapon. Everyone wants to look at how well he played for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs and after the trade deadline, but that doesn't excuse what went on for 4 months where he was awful or at least below average.
Ray seems to understand the business side of this, in that he's going to take a big pay cut. But, I don't think it's beneficial to the Celtics in the long term to bring him back, even at a reduced rate (unless we're talking midlevel exception money). You've got to believe he's going to want to be shown some respect for his contributions and be offered roughly 2 years at 8-10 mil. That's too much for a guy who would be 37 by the end of that contract and sucking up 15% of your payroll.
Thanks for the memories Ray, you were a warrior, but bidness is bidness.
Despite the poor series, Ray is a favorite. If we can keep him at a reasonable price, keep him.
bignick33 {l Wrote}:What is all this bitching about Ray? Of course his shooting suffered in the LA series; he spent 90% of the the time running around covering Kobe.
bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
angrychicken {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
Please. This new Heat team is being constructed to win championships like no other team has done before. I won't say that it is "game over", but game over.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
if amazon kardashian keeps her ginormous ass in the ratings, the lakers could get the nod again.
angrychicken {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
Please. This new Heat team is being constructed to win championships like no other team has done before. I won't say that it is "game over", but game over.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
Please. This new Heat team is being constructed to win championships like no other team has done before. I won't say that it is "game over", but game over.
Meh. This Heat team is designed to be a massive failure. You don't win championships if you have no money left to pay the Robert Horrys, Vinny Johnsons, James Poseys, John Paxons, Derek Fishers and Bruce Bowens of the world.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
Please. This new Heat team is being constructed to win championships like no other team has done before. I won't say that it is "game over", but game over.
Meh. This Heat team is designed to be a massive failure. You don't win championships if you have no money left to pay the Robert Horrys, Vinny Johnsons, James Poseys, John Paxons, Derek Fishers and Bruce Bowens of the world.
branchinator {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:angrychicken {l Wrote}:bcsoxfan12 {l Wrote}:I’m just happy he’s staying in a Celts uniform!!!!!! Now can he lead the Celts to victory over Miami?
Please. This new Heat team is being constructed to win championships like no other team has done before. I won't say that it is "game over", but game over.
Meh. This Heat team is designed to be a massive failure. You don't win championships if you have no money left to pay the Robert Horrys, Vinny Johnsons, James Poseys, John Paxons, Derek Fishers and Bruce Bowens of the world.
The Heat's roster is going to be more talented than I expected. With Ilgauskas, Haslem, Miller in the fold, that's a pretty decent start given what they had to work with. Starting next year, the Heat will have the MLE to spend every year, which is when they'll really start to separate from teams. This year, the Heat will be very beatable as they won't have a legit defensive presence in the low post.
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:Do you realize his cap was $19M and could fit Lebron?
Wallace and a few others could get Stoudamire or Lee?
Lee Lebron Rondo Pierce 2 more Garnett 1 more???
Plus mid cap subs???
Knicks own LeBron..and odds yet?
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