OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:Celtics +120 to win the Championship. The odds were +160 before the series started.
I wonder why the adjustment in odds hasn't been more significant!!!!
1. Boston has home court advantage.
2. Boston has been good on the road going 6-4 in the playoffs and 32 - 19 including the regular season. Odds are firmly stacked against Lakers winning both Game 6 and 7 in LA.
In my mind, these odds imply consensus favors Lakers to win 2 out of 3 in Boston. I don't believe that happens.
Celtics win Championship.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:Celtics +120 to win the Championship. The odds were +160 before the series started.
I wonder why the adjustment in odds hasn't been more significant!!!!
1. Boston has home court advantage.
2. Boston has been good on the road going 6-4 in the playoffs and 32 - 19 including the regular season. Odds are firmly stacked against Lakers winning both Game 6 and 7 in LA.
In my mind, these odds imply consensus favors Lakers to win 2 out of 3 in Boston. I don't believe that happens.
Celtics win Championship.
The odds figure that the Lakers will take one of 3 in Boston and get home court back.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:Celtics +120 to win the Championship. The odds were +160 before the series started.
I wonder why the adjustment in odds hasn't been more significant!!!!
1. Boston has home court advantage.
2. Boston has been good on the road going 6-4 in the playoffs and 32 - 19 including the regular season. Odds are firmly stacked against Lakers winning both Game 6 and 7 in LA.
In my mind, these odds imply consensus favors Lakers to win 2 out of 3 in Boston. I don't believe that happens.
Celtics win Championship.
The odds figure that the Lakers will take one of 3 in Boston and get home court back.
The Lakers need to win two in Boston to win. If they go back anything other than 3-2 up, it's over.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:You also need to remember Vegas probably has more money coming in from LA then Boston so it needs to keep it evened up.
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:So you dont think hte Lakers can take 2 at home. I may agree but its not impossible.
You also need to remember Vegas probably has more money coming in from LA then Boston so it needs to keep it evened up.
branchinator {l Wrote}:I could easily see LA winning Games 6 and 7 to win the series. Last night, LA had a 39-16 FT advantage before garbage time altered the ratio a little bit despite the fact that both teams were equally aggressive going to the hoop. The only reason why the Celtics aren't down 0-2 right now is because Ray had a historic game and Rondo played out of his mind in the 4th. If the Celtics lead 3-2 going back to LA, I will bet my left nut on LA winning Game 6. Then, in Game 7, it'd be a crapshoot that should feature some "better" officiating.
branchinator {l Wrote}:I don't even know what you're talking about, dickface. The Celtics deserved to win last night. They played better. My point was that the refs and Shelden Williams' 3-4 minutes kept that game far closer than it actually was. And, as a Celtics fan, I'm not confident in the Celtics getting a fair shake if the series goes back to LA.
OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I don't even know what you're talking about, dickface. The Celtics deserved to win last night. They played better. My point was that the refs and Shelden Williams' 3-4 minutes kept that game far closer than it actually was. And, as a Celtics fan, I'm not confident in the Celtics getting a fair shake if the series goes back to LA.
Are you aware Kobe Bryant played all Q4 with 5 fouls and was pretty much reduced to a no-factor defensively and to a certain extent offensively because of that?
Of course, there were 3-4 fouls on the Celts that shouldn't have been, but Kobe's foul trouble had a massive impact on the game. NBA refs are inept. That is a fact.
Given that 2 Celtics star players almost did not show up, Celtics got 3-4 bogus calls, and we still pulled the game should give you confidence that we won't drop two games in LA. The performances of Ray and Rondo were only part of what led to the Celtic win last night.
branchinator {l Wrote}:OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I don't even know what you're talking about, dickface. The Celtics deserved to win last night. They played better. My point was that the refs and Shelden Williams' 3-4 minutes kept that game far closer than it actually was. And, as a Celtics fan, I'm not confident in the Celtics getting a fair shake if the series goes back to LA.
Are you aware Kobe Bryant played all Q4 with 5 fouls and was pretty much reduced to a no-factor defensively and to a certain extent offensively because of that?
Of course, there were 3-4 fouls on the Celts that shouldn't have been, but Kobe's foul trouble had a massive impact on the game. NBA refs are inept. That is a fact.
Given that 2 Celtics star players almost did not show up, Celtics got 3-4 bogus calls, and we still pulled the game should give you confidence that we won't drop two games in LA. The performances of Ray and Rondo were only part of what led to the Celtic win last night.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I also watched Game 1 where the refs did the same exact thing to Ray Allen. I also saw every big man in the Celtics' rotation get 3-4 first half fouls, which necessitated playing Shelden Williams' useless ass, a sequence that cost the Celtics about 5-6 points.
It basically would come down to a Game 7. I would bet my life on LA winning Game 6 if they trailed 3-2 in the series.
OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I don't even know what you're talking about, dickface. The Celtics deserved to win last night. They played better. My point was that the refs and Shelden Williams' 3-4 minutes kept that game far closer than it actually was. And, as a Celtics fan, I'm not confident in the Celtics getting a fair shake if the series goes back to LA.
Are you aware Kobe Bryant played all Q4 with 5 fouls and was pretty much reduced to a no-factor defensively and to a certain extent offensively because of that?
Of course, there were 3-4 fouls on the Celts that shouldn't have been, but Kobe's foul trouble had a massive impact on the game. NBA refs are inept. That is a fact.
Given that 2 Celtics star players almost did not show up, Celtics got 3-4 bogus calls, and we still pulled the game should give you confidence that we won't drop two games in LA. The performances of Ray and Rondo were only part of what led to the Celtic win last night.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I don't even know what you're talking about, dickface. The Celtics deserved to win last night. They played better. My point was that the refs and Shelden Williams' 3-4 minutes kept that game far closer than it actually was. And, as a Celtics fan, I'm not confident in the Celtics getting a fair shake if the series goes back to LA.
Are you aware Kobe Bryant played all Q4 with 5 fouls and was pretty much reduced to a no-factor defensively and to a certain extent offensively because of that?
Of course, there were 3-4 fouls on the Celts that shouldn't have been, but Kobe's foul trouble had a massive impact on the game. NBA refs are inept. That is a fact.
Given that 2 Celtics star players almost did not show up, Celtics got 3-4 bogus calls, and we still pulled the game should give you confidence that we won't drop two games in LA. The performances of Ray and Rondo were only part of what led to the Celtic win last night.
You missed his point. He is saying the refs could give LA two games in LA.
I say that the Lakers can't win two in a row at home regardless of what the refs do.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:If Ray didn't have the half he did, we would've gotten our teeth kicked in. Pierce and KG need to start showing up.
branchinator {l Wrote}:I didn't say that the NBA would gift the title to the Lakers. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised to see LA win 2 games to close out the series, largely because I think Game 6 for LA would be a foregone conclusion. In Game 7, who the hell knows. And if you don't think that the NBA favors certain outcomes, all you need to do is type in "Lakers/Kings Game 6" on Youtube and see what comes up. In that game, the Lakers shot 27 FTs...in the 4th quarter. I think you'd see a mini-version of that in a hypothetical Game 6 if the Lakers needed the help. There's also the possibility of the Lakers simply outplaying the Celtics in 2 games since they're more talented.
branchinator {l Wrote}:I didn't say that the NBA would gift the title to the Lakers. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised to see LA win 2 games to close out the series, largely because I think Game 6 for LA would be a foregone conclusion. In Game 7, who the hell knows. And if you don't think that the NBA favors certain outcomes, all you need to do is type in "Lakers/Kings Game 6" on Youtube and see what comes up. In that game, the Lakers shot 27 FTs...in the 4th quarter. I think you'd see a mini-version of that in a hypothetical Game 6 if the Lakers needed the help. There's also the possibility of the Lakers simply outplaying the Celtics in 2 games since they're more talented.
OldEaglePub {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I didn't say that the NBA would gift the title to the Lakers. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised to see LA win 2 games to close out the series, largely because I think Game 6 for LA would be a foregone conclusion. In Game 7, who the hell knows. And if you don't think that the NBA favors certain outcomes, all you need to do is type in "Lakers/Kings Game 6" on Youtube and see what comes up. In that game, the Lakers shot 27 FTs...in the 4th quarter. I think you'd see a mini-version of that in a hypothetical Game 6 if the Lakers needed the help. There's also the possibility of the Lakers simply outplaying the Celtics in 2 games since they're more talented.
I guess the only way for me to make my point is for the Celtics to win 2 out of the next 3 and then for the odds to come way down showing Celtics to be a favorite, which I am certain, would happen.
Again, it is my belief consensus is calling for Lakers to win 2 out of 3 in Boston. Should that not happen, at the end of game 5, Celtics will be the favorite to win the Championship.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:branchinator {l Wrote}:I didn't say that the NBA would gift the title to the Lakers. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised to see LA win 2 games to close out the series, largely because I think Game 6 for LA would be a foregone conclusion. In Game 7, who the hell knows. And if you don't think that the NBA favors certain outcomes, all you need to do is type in "Lakers/Kings Game 6" on Youtube and see what comes up. In that game, the Lakers shot 27 FTs...in the 4th quarter. I think you'd see a mini-version of that in a hypothetical Game 6 if the Lakers needed the help. There's also the possibility of the Lakers simply outplaying the Celtics in 2 games since they're more talented.
The Lakers are not more talented than the Celtics. If Garnett were completely healthy, it wouldn't even be close. The Celtics played the two best teams (other than themselves) in the NBA in the playoffs already, and neither is still playing.
After Kobe, and Gasol, there isn't a player on the Lakers that would see significant minutes for the Celtics.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I don't believe the outcome is fixed. The watchability of the game is fixed, without question, and it has an impact on who wins. Without the refs "managing the game" last night, the Celtics are up 20 at the half, everyone turns off the TV, and it is never close. Same could be said in the third quarter in the opposite direction, when the refs clearly eliminated laker momentum before the game got out of hand for the Lakers.
branchinator {l Wrote}:Here are the current lines:
Game 3
Celtics -2.5 (Lakers were -5.5, -6.0 in their 2 home games)
To win title
Celtics +115
Lakers -159
If the Celtics win 2 of 3 in Boston, I'd expect the Lakers' odds to be near even money.
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