Beanpot 2010

[Puerto Rico Eagle]

Good showing by BC on the ice and in the stands...The team destroyed Harvard, which was completely outclassed not much more to analyze there...And for it to be the 5 PM game against Harvard, BC filled up its student section, we were pretty loud and hassled what few fans Harvard had...aka the Band and a few rows of students, and let me say Northeastern has established itself as the biggest and rowdiest student section at the Beanpot, much louder than BU...But I wouldn't have it any other way...BC and BU again...

[bcsoxfan12]

Awesome win, great overall effort and our crowd was really into it the place was rockin’ ……I can’t wait for next week should be an awesome game. Repeat of 2008 anyone ??? I think Harvard and NU will be a good game…..Harvard is really a gritty team and I think Rawlings is a better goalie than his record reflect, their offense has really been hit or miss

[buconvict]

Good showing by BC on the ice and in the stands...The team destroyed Harvard, which was completely outclassed not much more to analyze there...And for it to be the 5 PM game against Harvard, BC filled up its student section, we were pretty loud and hassled what few fans Harvard had...aka the Band and a few rows of students, and let me say Northeastern has established itself as the biggest and rowdiest student section at the Beanpot, much louder than BU...But I wouldn't have it any other way...BC and BU again...

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

[pick6pedro]

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

Do you think NU and Harvard fans have the exact same conversations we have about not getting the top recruits in hoops despite being in a premiere conference (NU) and/or area (NU and Harvard) for hockey talent?

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

NU saying BC or BU are their biggest rivals isn't trying to get involved in the BC-BU rivalry at all. It's completely separate. Kinda like BC has a separate rivalry with ND and isn't trying to get in on the ND-USC rivalry. BC isn't trying to get in on the Clemson-SC rivarly by creating the O'Rourke-McFadden trophy are they? Who would you suggest NU name as their rivals since naming the two teams within the same conference in the same city is sad?

[b0mberMan]

Good showing by BC on the ice and in the stands...The team destroyed Harvard, which was completely outclassed not much more to analyze there...And for it to be the 5 PM game against Harvard, BC filled up its student section, we were pretty loud and hassled what few fans Harvard had...aka the Band and a few rows of students, and let me say Northeastern has established itself as the biggest and rowdiest student section at the Beanpot, much louder than BU...But I wouldn't have it any other way...BC and BU again...

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

We can agree on this.

I know campion came on as a fake NU fan last year, and then 81 tried and failed... but wasn't there an actual NU fan who trolled EI around beanpot time last year? He was funny.

[eepstein0]

BOSTON -- Even though his team had just dispatched Northeastern, 2-1, in a hard-fought Beanpot semifinal at TD Garden, Boston University coach Jack Parker was very honest about playing Boston College next Monday night in yet another BU-BC showdown for the 58th Beanpot championship. "The Beanpot is losing its luster a little bit if it's constantly going to be BU or BC winning this tournament," Parker said. "We dodged a bullet tonight. These teams are real good hockey programs, Harvard and Northeastern. It's not good overall, people are going to get tired of it. People are tired of it in some ways." BU has won a record 29 Beanpot titles and has reached the title game in 25 of the last 27 years. In the first game, Boston College hammered Harvard, 6-0, to reach its 30th Beanpot title game. For more, including audio from all four teams

Apparently Jack Parker has had about enough of BU-BC. Right Jack, like Harvard vs. BU in the Final would have been an instant classic.

[AdamBC]

BOSTON -- Even though his team had just dispatched Northeastern, 2-1, in a hard-fought Beanpot semifinal at TD Garden, Boston University coach Jack Parker was very honest about playing Boston College next Monday night in yet another BU-BC showdown for the 58th Beanpot championship. "The Beanpot is losing its luster a little bit if it's constantly going to be BU or BC winning this tournament," Parker said. "We dodged a bullet tonight. These teams are real good hockey programs, Harvard and Northeastern. It's not good overall, people are going to get tired of it. People are tired of it in some ways." BU has won a record 29 Beanpot titles and has reached the title game in 25 of the last 27 years. In the first game, Boston College hammered Harvard, 6-0, to reach its 30th Beanpot title game. For more, including audio from all four teams

Apparently Jack Parker has had about enough of BU-BC. Right Jack, like Harvard vs. BU in the Final would have been an instant classic.

Agreed Jack, a NU-BC game would have had more luster. Learn your place BU and lose in the first round. Next!

Oh, and fuck off Jack: http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/2010/02/02/bus_parker_wants_upfront_answer_about_hitting_from_behind/

First off, as indicated in the reader comments, the Norwood players were not hit from behind, they fell. Secondly, I watched the two plays in question, and the reason why your player was called is for a makeup call when BU's player should have been ejected but wasn't. So fuck off Jack and stop teaching your players to be goons first, then we can talk about your concern for hitting from behind.

[commavegarage]

BOSTON -- Even though his team had just dispatched Northeastern, 2-1, in a hard-fought Beanpot semifinal at TD Garden, Boston University coach Jack Parker was very honest about playing Boston College next Monday night in yet another BU-BC showdown for the 58th Beanpot championship. "The Beanpot is losing its luster a little bit if it's constantly going to be BU or BC winning this tournament," Parker said. "We dodged a bullet tonight. These teams are real good hockey programs, Harvard and Northeastern. It's not good overall, people are going to get tired of it. People are tired of it in some ways." BU has won a record 29 Beanpot titles and has reached the title game in 25 of the last 27 years. In the first game, Boston College hammered Harvard, 6-0, to reach its 30th Beanpot title game. For more, including audio from all four teams

Apparently Jack Parker has had about enough of BU-BC. Right Jack, like Harvard vs. BU in the Final would have been an instant classic.

Agreed Jack, a NU-BC game would have had more luster. Learn your place BU and lose in the first round. Next!

Oh, and fuck off Jack: http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/2010/02/02/bus_parker_wants_upfront_answer_about_hitting_from_behind/

First off, as indicated in the reader comments, the Norwood players were not hit from behind, they fell. Secondly, I watched the two plays in question, and the reason why your player was called is for a makeup call when BU's player should have been ejected but wasn't. So fuck off Jack and stop teaching your players to be goons first, then we can talk about your concern for hitting from behind.

But I'm sure he had nothing to say about his player giving a NU player a cross check to the face well after the whistle.

[AdamBC]

BOSTON -- Even though his team had just dispatched Northeastern, 2-1, in a hard-fought Beanpot semifinal at TD Garden, Boston University coach Jack Parker was very honest about playing Boston College next Monday night in yet another BU-BC showdown for the 58th Beanpot championship. "The Beanpot is losing its luster a little bit if it's constantly going to be BU or BC winning this tournament," Parker said. "We dodged a bullet tonight. These teams are real good hockey programs, Harvard and Northeastern. It's not good overall, people are going to get tired of it. People are tired of it in some ways." BU has won a record 29 Beanpot titles and has reached the title game in 25 of the last 27 years. In the first game, Boston College hammered Harvard, 6-0, to reach its 30th Beanpot title game. For more, including audio from all four teams

Apparently Jack Parker has had about enough of BU-BC. Right Jack, like Harvard vs. BU in the Final would have been an instant classic.

Agreed Jack, a NU-BC game would have had more luster. Learn your place BU and lose in the first round. Next!

Oh, and fuck off Jack: http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_hockey/articles/2010/02/02/bus_parker_wants_upfront_answer_about_hitting_from_behind/

First off, as indicated in the reader comments, the Norwood players were not hit from behind, they fell. Secondly, I watched the two plays in question, and the reason why your player was called is for a makeup call when BU's player should have been ejected but wasn't. So fuck off Jack and stop teaching your players to be goons first, then we can talk about your concern for hitting from behind.

But I'm sure he had nothing to say about his player giving a NU player a cross check to the face well after the whistle.

Or the slapshot on net after the whistle was blown.

[buconvict]

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

Do you think NU and Harvard fans have the exact same conversations we have about not getting the top recruits in hoops despite being in a premiere conference (NU) and/or area (NU and Harvard) for hockey talent?

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

NU saying BC or BU are their biggest rivals isn't trying to get involved in the BC-BU rivalry at all. It's completely separate. Kinda like BC has a separate rivalry with ND and isn't trying to get in on the ND-USC rivalry. BC isn't trying to get in on the Clemson-SC rivarly by creating the O'Rourke-McFadden trophy are they? Who would you suggest NU name as their rivals since naming the two teams within the same conference in the same city is sad?

They should probably just accept the fact that they don't have any rivals.

[AdamBC]

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

Do you think NU and Harvard fans have the exact same conversations we have about not getting the top recruits in hoops despite being in a premiere conference (NU) and/or area (NU and Harvard) for hockey talent?

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

NU saying BC or BU are their biggest rivals isn't trying to get involved in the BC-BU rivalry at all. It's completely separate. Kinda like BC has a separate rivalry with ND and isn't trying to get in on the ND-USC rivalry. BC isn't trying to get in on the Clemson-SC rivarly by creating the O'Rourke-McFadden trophy are they? Who would you suggest NU name as their rivals since naming the two teams within the same conference in the same city is sad?

They should probably just accept the fact that they don't have any rivals.

During the segment on the new NU weight-room, I realized where the money being dumped into football would end up. Certainly not in their BBall program.

[pick6pedro]

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

Do you think NU and Harvard fans have the exact same conversations we have about not getting the top recruits in hoops despite being in a premiere conference (NU) and/or area (NU and Harvard) for hockey talent?

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

NU saying BC or BU are their biggest rivals isn't trying to get involved in the BC-BU rivalry at all. It's completely separate. Kinda like BC has a separate rivalry with ND and isn't trying to get in on the ND-USC rivalry. BC isn't trying to get in on the Clemson-SC rivarly by creating the O'Rourke-McFadden trophy are they? Who would you suggest NU name as their rivals since naming the two teams within the same conference in the same city is sad?

They should probably just accept the fact that they don't have any rivals.

Why would any program do that? Every sports program on the face of the planet wants to nuture and develop rivalries.

[buconvict]

Northeastern, the West Virginia of Hockey East. They can't suffer enough.

Do you think NU and Harvard fans have the exact same conversations we have about not getting the top recruits in hoops despite being in a premiere conference (NU) and/or area (NU and Harvard) for hockey talent?

You're aware that they think BU and BC are their "biggest rivals", right? It's like a Baltimore Oriole fan trying to get involved in the Red Sox and Yankees rivalry. Sad really.

NU saying BC or BU are their biggest rivals isn't trying to get involved in the BC-BU rivalry at all. It's completely separate. Kinda like BC has a separate rivalry with ND and isn't trying to get in on the ND-USC rivalry. BC isn't trying to get in on the Clemson-SC rivarly by creating the O'Rourke-McFadden trophy are they? Who would you suggest NU name as their rivals since naming the two teams within the same conference in the same city is sad?

They should probably just accept the fact that they don't have any rivals.

Why would any program do that? Every sports program on the face of the planet wants to nuture and develop rivalries.

Because its foolish to just pretend that a rivalry exists when there isn't one. If Baylor pretended that Texas was their biggest fotball rival, when UT has established rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas A&M, it would be transparent and pathetic.

Rivalries like the BC/Clemson one are created through competition, not by a marketing department or a fanbase's wishful thinking.

[pick6pedro]

Because its foolish to just pretend that a rivalry exists when there isn't one. If Baylor pretended that Texas was their biggest fotball rival, when UT has established rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas A&M, it would be transparent and pathetic.

Rivalries like the BC/Clemson one are created through competition, not by a marketing department or a fanbase's wishful thinking.

You're confusing NU saying that BC or BU's biggest rival is NU with them wanting to build a rivalry with both teams. I don't think any NU fan would say that BC or BU consider tNU their biggest rival. But in the eyes of NU, BC and BU are their biggest rival. Baylor can feel Texas is their biggest rival, but obviously Texas is not going to feel that way. ND doesn't consider BC one of their top rivalries, but a ton of BC fans certainly do feel ND is a big rivalry. Not a difficult concept.

It's fairly funny that you mention a BC/Clemson rivalry where Clemson has at least one (way) stronger rivalry and because the O'Rourke-McFadden Trophy was thought up by sports marketing and the athletic department in order to create a rivalry for a pair of teams that have played exactly 5 times over the last 2 decades and 7 times over the last 5.

And you still didn't answer the question of why any sports team would simply concede they have no rivals and not even try to develop one. That would be foolish, as is your recommendation that they just

[twballgame9]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

[pick6pedro]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

Arguing just to argue again twb. So NU doesn't compete for the same goal (Beanpot, HE champ)? They aren't a competitor or trying to outdo BC? Convenient you ignored the "OR". Nowhere in that definition does it proclaim that both sides have to consider the rivalry to be at the exact same level. Perfect example is that BC considers ND and Clemson a rival. However ND and Clemson do not consider BC to be a rival on the same level that BC does. It does work as a one way street when talking about degree as BC can easily consider NU a rival, just not on the level of BU (not even close). Following me around is cute, but you're not getting anywhere.

[b0mberMan]

Arguing just to argue again twb.

This is funny coming from you.

Does NU think we are their rivals? Probably. But it's not mutual and it's kind of sad/kind of funny. BC-BU go back to the beginning of the programs at each school, have at times owned the college hockey landscape and have both been prominent programs this decade, nabbing 3 National Championships. You're taught to hate the other school when you go to one, and respect what their program does. You're not taught that about NU.

NU should develop a rivalry with UNH - they've both won about the same.

NU fans can consider us rivals till the cows come home. They won't feel any reciprocation. The NCSU/Duke-UNC analogy is pretty accurate.

[pick6pedro]

Arguing just to argue again twb.

This is funny coming from you.

Does NU think we are their rivals? Probably. But it's not mutual and it's kind of sad/kind of funny. BC-BU go back to the beginning of the programs at each school, have at times owned the college hockey landscape and have both been prominent programs this decade, nabbing 3 National Championships. You're taught to hate the other school when you go to one, and respect what their program does. You're not taught that about NU.

NU should develop a rivalry with UNH - they've both won about the same.

NU fans can consider us rivals till the cows come home. They won't feel any reciprocation. The NCSU/Duke-UNC analogy is pretty accurate.

It is funny, isn't it?

But on a serious note it's not about reciprocation or that BC should or does feel NU is an intense rivalry or with a similar dynamic to the BC-BU rivalry. One is allowed more than one rival and they are going to vary by degree. BC/BU is the best NU can get. The fact that they strive for a rivalry means they have goals. That's not sad, that's reality. Those claiming BC and NU can't possibly be rivals sound just like ND fans talking about BC.

[buconvict]

Because its foolish to just pretend that a rivalry exists when there isn't one. If Baylor pretended that Texas was their biggest fotball rival, when UT has established rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas A&M, it would be transparent and pathetic.

Rivalries like the BC/Clemson one are created through competition, not by a marketing department or a fanbase's wishful thinking.

You're confusing NU saying that BC or BU's biggest rival is NU with them wanting to build a rivalry with both teams. I don't think any NU fan would say that BC or BU consider tNU their biggest rival. But in the eyes of NU, BC and BU are their biggest rival. Baylor can feel Texas is their biggest rival, but obviously Texas is not going to feel that way. ND doesn't consider BC one of their top rivalries, but a ton of BC fans certainly do feel ND is a big rivalry. Not a difficult concept.

It's fairly funny that you mention a BC/Clemson rivalry where Clemson has at least one (way) stronger rivalry and because the O'Rourke-McFadden Trophy was thought up by sports marketing and the athletic department in order to create a rivalry for a pair of teams that have played exactly 5 times over the last 2 decades and 7 times over the last 5.

And you still didn't answer the question of why any sports team would simply concede they have no rivals and not even try to develop one. That would be foolish, as is your recommendation that they just

So since a rivalry is defined by two teams who compete for the same thing, UNC must be rivals with Prarie View A&M because they are both trying to win the NCAA Championship right?

Jesus Christ, Northeastern isn't a rival to BC or BU in hockey. End of discussion.

If NU's bookstore wants to sell "Beat BU" tee-shirts, they can feel free. It's just pathetic to pretend that it's a rivalry when BU couldn't care less about NU.

[pick6pedro]

Because its foolish to just pretend that a rivalry exists when there isn't one. If Baylor pretended that Texas was their biggest fotball rival, when UT has established rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas A&M, it would be transparent and pathetic.

Rivalries like the BC/Clemson one are created through competition, not by a marketing department or a fanbase's wishful thinking.

You're confusing NU saying that BC or BU's biggest rival is NU with them wanting to build a rivalry with both teams. I don't think any NU fan would say that BC or BU consider tNU their biggest rival. But in the eyes of NU, BC and BU are their biggest rival. Baylor can feel Texas is their biggest rival, but obviously Texas is not going to feel that way. ND doesn't consider BC one of their top rivalries, but a ton of BC fans certainly do feel ND is a big rivalry. Not a difficult concept.

It's fairly funny that you mention a BC/Clemson rivalry where Clemson has at least one (way) stronger rivalry and because the O'Rourke-McFadden Trophy was thought up by sports marketing and the athletic department in order to create a rivalry for a pair of teams that have played exactly 5 times over the last 2 decades and 7 times over the last 5.

And you still didn't answer the question of why any sports team would simply concede they have no rivals and not even try to develop one. That would be foolish, as is your recommendation that they just

So since a rivalry is defined by two teams who compete for the same thing, UNC must be rivals with Prarie View A&M because they are both trying to win the NCAA Championship right?

Jesus Christ, Northeastern isn't a rival to BC or BU in hockey. End of discussion.

If NU's bookstore wants to sell "Beat BU" tee-shirts, they can feel free. It's just pathetic to pretend that it's a rivalry when BU couldn't care less about NU.

I didn't post the broad definition of "rival" - twb did. So your gripe is with him. Obviously, the more centralized the goal trying to be reached by either team, the stronger the rivalry can be.

That's fine - it is pathetic if NU thinks the rivalry with BU or BC will ever reach a fever pitch (I guess there's slim chance if either BC or BU fade away as a hockey power). But to suggest that NU shouldn't bother trying to foster and develop rivalries is ridiculous. Would you say the same about BC football? All the rivalries they are trying to develop don't reciprocate in the same degree, if at all, so they should just give up on it?

[bcsoxfan12]

BC-NU
BU-NU

Is hockey equivalent of BC Football playing UNH, URI, NU (oh wait RIP) BU *oh wait see NU football note* We play them only because we have to in the Beanpot / or because of HE. Look at how the basketball program has forgotten “local rivalries”. To put it another way BC hockey is like a rich family throwing the bastard step child the scraps after you have them locked away in obscurity for decades (minus the 1980’s and last year thanks to Thiessen, which were only blips in time when NU was somewhat relevant)

[twballgame9]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

Arguing just to argue again twb. So NU doesn't compete for the same goal (Beanpot, HE champ)? They aren't a competitor or trying to outdo BC? Convenient you ignored the "OR". Nowhere in that definition does it proclaim that both sides have to consider the rivalry to be at the exact same level. Perfect example is that BC considers ND and Clemson a rival. However ND and Clemson do not consider BC to be a rival on the same level that BC does. It does work as a one way street when talking about degree as BC can easily consider NU a rival, just not on the level of BU (not even close). Following me around is cute, but you're not getting anywhere.

The question is not whether they have the same goals as BC, but rather whether they actually compete for them. In most years BC and BU are playing for championships. NU is playing for sixth place.

Clemson and ND consider BC a rival. To be sure, it is not their primary rivalry, but it is I rivalry for them. (To be clear, I don't think much of the ND rivalry myself). And for Clemson, they are competing for almost the exact same things, with almost the exact same results. And they compete - the games and standings are always close between the two. It's nothing but a young rivalry, and doesn't have a lot of juice, but it is much more competitive that NU v. either BC or BU in hockey.

Teams can have multiple rivalries, so long as they are in both directions. And I would note that at least one of the trophies handed out after the ND game is sponsored by the ND student association, and I believe the leather helmet is sponsored by the Clemson student association.

Keep working on the condescension. Like Rakim Sanders, you need the practice.

[pick6pedro]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

Arguing just to argue again twb. So NU doesn't compete for the same goal (Beanpot, HE champ)? They aren't a competitor or trying to outdo BC? Convenient you ignored the "OR". Nowhere in that definition does it proclaim that both sides have to consider the rivalry to be at the exact same level. Perfect example is that BC considers ND and Clemson a rival. However ND and Clemson do not consider BC to be a rival on the same level that BC does. It does work as a one way street when talking about degree as BC can easily consider NU a rival, just not on the level of BU (not even close). Following me around is cute, but you're not getting anywhere.

The question is not whether they have the same goals as BC, but rather whether they actually compete for them. In most years BC and BU are playing for championships. NU is playing for sixth place.

Clemson and ND consider BC a rival. To be sure, it is not their primary rivalry, but it is I rivalry for them. (To be clear, I don't think much of the ND rivalry myself). And for Clemson, they are competing for almost the exact same things, with almost the exact same results. And they compete - the games and standings are always close between the two. It's nothing but a young rivalry, and doesn't have a lot of juice, but it is much more competitive that NU v. either BC or BU in hockey.

Teams can have multiple rivalries, so long as they are in both directions. And I would note that at least one of the trophies handed out after the ND game is sponsored by the ND student association, and I believe the leather helmet is sponsored by the Clemson student association.

Keep working on the condescension. Like Rakim Sanders, you need the practice.

What's awesome is when you completely ignore the OR in the very definition you posted. Didn't they teach you the function of AND's and OR's in law school teddy? Again, I've continually referred to the degree of the rivalry. It's not my fault you are hard of reading once you get your mind focused on an argument.

The O-B trophy (leather helmet) was founded by the Boston College Gridiron Club. The Frank Leahy Bowl was created by the Notre Dame Club of Boston. The Ireland Trophy was founded by the Notre Dame student government.

[twballgame9]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

Arguing just to argue again twb. So NU doesn't compete for the same goal (Beanpot, HE champ)? They aren't a competitor or trying to outdo BC? Convenient you ignored the "OR". Nowhere in that definition does it proclaim that both sides have to consider the rivalry to be at the exact same level. Perfect example is that BC considers ND and Clemson a rival. However ND and Clemson do not consider BC to be a rival on the same level that BC does. It does work as a one way street when talking about degree as BC can easily consider NU a rival, just not on the level of BU (not even close). Following me around is cute, but you're not getting anywhere.

The question is not whether they have the same goals as BC, but rather whether they actually compete for them. In most years BC and BU are playing for championships. NU is playing for sixth place.

Clemson and ND consider BC a rival. To be sure, it is not their primary rivalry, but it is I rivalry for them. (To be clear, I don't think much of the ND rivalry myself). And for Clemson, they are competing for almost the exact same things, with almost the exact same results. And they compete - the games and standings are always close between the two. It's nothing but a young rivalry, and doesn't have a lot of juice, but it is much more competitive that NU v. either BC or BU in hockey.

Teams can have multiple rivalries, so long as they are in both directions. And I would note that at least one of the trophies handed out after the ND game is sponsored by the ND student association, and I believe the leather helmet is sponsored by the Clemson student association.

Keep working on the condescension. Like Rakim Sanders, you need the practice.

What's awesome is when you completely ignore the OR in the very definition you posted. Didn't they teach you the function of AND's and OR's in law school teddy? Again, I've continually referred to the degree of the rivalry. It's not my fault you are hard of reading once you get your mind focused on an argument.

The O-B trophy (leather helmet) was founded by the Boston College Gridiron Club. The Frank Leahy Bowl was created by the Notre Dame Club of Boston. The Ireland Trophy was founded by the Notre Dame student government.

The second clause of the first definition makes every team in college hockey BC's rival. Form over substance again. Not all definitions apply in all contexts.

I have no dispute with the remainder of it. In my mind, BC doesn't have any rivals in football yet. Clemson and Syracuse strike me as the two most likely candidates over the next decade or so.

[bignick33]

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BC can't be NU's rival unless NU is BC's rival. It doesn't work as a one way street.

Arguing just to argue again twb. So NU doesn't compete for the same goal (Beanpot, HE champ)? They aren't a competitor or trying to outdo BC? Convenient you ignored the "OR". Nowhere in that definition does it proclaim that both sides have to consider the rivalry to be at the exact same level. Perfect example is that BC considers ND and Clemson a rival. However ND and Clemson do not consider BC to be a rival on the same level that BC does. It does work as a one way street when talking about degree as BC can easily consider NU a rival, just not on the level of BU (not even close). Following me around is cute, but you're not getting anywhere.

The question is not whether they have the same goals as BC, but rather whether they actually compete for them. In most years BC and BU are playing for championships. NU is playing for sixth place.

Clemson and ND consider BC a rival. To be sure, it is not their primary rivalry, but it is I rivalry for them. (To be clear, I don't think much of the ND rivalry myself). And for Clemson, they are competing for almost the exact same things, with almost the exact same results. And they compete - the games and standings are always close between the two. It's nothing but a young rivalry, and doesn't have a lot of juice, but it is much more competitive that NU v. either BC or BU in hockey.

Teams can have multiple rivalries, so long as they are in both directions. And I would note that at least one of the trophies handed out after the ND game is sponsored by the ND student association, and I believe the leather helmet is sponsored by the Clemson student association.

Keep working on the condescension. Like Rakim Sanders, you need the practice.

What's awesome is when you completely ignore the OR in the very definition you posted. Didn't they teach you the function of AND's and OR's in law school teddy? Again, I've continually referred to the degree of the rivalry. It's not my fault you are hard of reading once you get your mind focused on an argument.

The O-B trophy (leather helmet) was founded by the Boston College Gridiron Club. The Frank Leahy Bowl was created by the Notre Dame Club of Boston. The Ireland Trophy was founded by the Notre Dame student government.

The second clause of the first definition makes every team in college hockey BC's rival. Form over substance again. Not all definitions apply in all contexts.

I have no dispute with the remainder of it. In my mind, BC doesn't have any rivals in football yet. Clemson and Syracuse strike me as the two most likely candidates over the next decade or so.

IMO, V-Tech is already our biggest rival (Tech fans look forward to the game because they know it might have implications) and has the biggest potential to be a serious rival going forward.

[twballgame9]

True, VT is the closest thing to a rivalry that BC football has now. Thursday night football and one really big game have a lot to do with that.

[bignick33]

True, VT is the closest thing to a rivalry that BC football has now. Thursday night football and one really big game have a lot to do with that.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Besides UVA, I'd would imagine that we're V-Tech's biggest rival. And, besides ND, most BC fans would probably identify Tech as ours. Playing annually in significant games, often in prime-time or on Thursday, has helped make every game feel "big."

[pick6pedro]

The second clause of the first definition makes every team in college hockey BC's rival. Form over substance again. Not all definitions apply in all contexts.

Exactly my point.

Therefore, refusing to acknowledge rivals for reasons other than competitiveness is too limited. Geographic rivals exist. Rivalries can stretch back to early matchups even though teams don't play any more. Some rivalries can be based on education or religion. Holy Cross and BC don't even compete any more yet there's a rivalry that developed based on numerous factors. You're just too strict in your interpretation.

Simply put rivalry is in the eye of the beholder. The strength of rivalries has to do with familiarty, history, geography, competitiveness, common goals, reciprocity, etc.

[buconvict]

The second clause of the first definition makes every team in college hockey BC's rival. Form over substance again. Not all definitions apply in all contexts.

Exactly my point.

Therefore, refusing to acknowledge rivals for reasons other than competitiveness is too limited. Geographic rivals exist. Rivalries can stretch back to early matchups even though teams don't play any more. Some rivalries can be based on education or religion. Holy Cross and BC don't even compete any more yet there's a rivalry that developed based on numerous factors. You're just too strict in your interpretation.

Simply put rivalry is in the eye of the beholder. The strength of rivalries has to do with familiarty, history, geography, competitiveness, common goals, reciprocity, etc.

Do you think Northeastern and BC are rivals in hockey?

[bignick33]

BC and Northeastern are unequivocally Beanpot Rivals. Does this clarify the situation?