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2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:07 am
by claver2010
Opens tonight in wisconsin for 2. Game tonight is on some fox sports channel. Will also be available on big 10 app which i think most systems get. Think the last time i watched that app i fell asleep mid game when spaz & co were out at northwestern

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:06 pm
by claver2010
:?

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:50 pm
by BostonCollege1
I don’t mind losing to a team with superior talent (which SCS has), but I hate seeing a BC team get outworked. Tonight was awful. Need a heart transplant, fast, or need to start sitting guys and looking for someone else to step in mid-season. Jerry also needs to think about changing assistants at the end of the season.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:27 pm
by eepstein0
There are some serious talent and coaching issues with this hockey team. They are awful.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:38 pm
by Dick Rosenthal
They really do suck and they are being poorly served by the coaching. With all proper respect, you have to wonder if Jerry has entered the “Jack Parker in just last three years” phase of his career. This is a bad hockey team—from what I can see as bad from a talent perspective as the team Jerry inherited from Cedorchuk. And despite the hype, Wahlstrom does not look like much.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:22 pm
by blueline
Houston there is a problem !

Game in game out, this team despite the talent or lack of talent does not explain the inconsistent play.

They can play great for ten minutes and then take the rest of the game off. Why ?

The passing is off, the bad drop passes, bad decisions with the puck, terrible powerplay and weak penalty killing, break outs take too long, etc.

I don't see any cohesion and enough emotion or grit on the ice from the upper classmen.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:13 pm
by claver2010
rumor yesterday was that wahlstrom was leaving. apparently that was FAKE NEWS and he's in the lineup this pm

@BCHockey
There is no substance to reports that Oliver Wahlstrom is leaving Boston College. He is playing today against Bentley.


adressing hansen's question on tortora. kid was hyped up about 4-5 years ago as the next in line of dynamic undersized F, never materialized that way obviously.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:39 pm
by MilitantEagle
4-2 loss to Bentley. Ouch.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:04 pm
by eepstein0
MilitantEagle wrote:4-2 loss to Bentley. Ouch.


It’s about time to move on I think for JY.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:35 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
eepstein0 wrote:
MilitantEagle wrote:4-2 loss to Bentley. Ouch.


It’s about time to move on I think for JY.

thanks, cap’n obvious

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:01 pm
by Dick Rosenthal
Probably time to replace the coaches of all three revenue sports. Two should be kicked out the door unceremoniously. Jerry should be sent off on a Big Papi-esque farewell tour while Jarmond figures out who gets the job next year. It really is amazing how quickly it imploded after the wave of early departures back after the last Frozen Four.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:40 am
by BC923
Of course JY needs to go out like a king, and it's a shame it won't happen after a frozen four, but it's time now. It's as attractive a job as there is in college hockey, so there should be no problem getting a good coach in, but it will be a rebuild because of the shape the program is in now.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:16 pm
by Los
Spanked BU 4-1 at Agganis after taking a bullshit major and game misconduct to start the game. Woll stopped 38/39 and looked the best in years. If they can get the sweep tomorrow they just have a series with the Storrs Puppies to end the semester and another strong start in the conference.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:37 am
by claver2010
no matter how bad we are, you can always count on jerry to win at agganis

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:54 pm
by blueline
No matter how bad the season is going, always nice to beat BU and win at Agganis :angrychicken

Let's hope for a sweep tonight at Conte

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:01 pm
by AdamBC
No sweep, but an explosive game that ended in a tie. Hope this gives the team momentum after that horrid start.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:20 am
by BostonCollege1
BC played with a lot of energy against BU. Let's see if they can keep the momentum up against the Puppies. Need at least three points from these two games.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:49 pm
by blueline
Do we see the first out of conference win soon ?

Notre Dame and 2 games with ASU

I am still not sure where this team is at right now.

They have not looked good at all so far with the exception of a few games

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:23 pm
by BostonCollege1
blueline wrote:Do we see the first out of conference win soon ?

Notre Dame and 2 games with ASU

I am still not sure where this team is at right now.

They have not looked good at all so far with the exception of a few games


Both ND and ASU have been good this season, but first games back after a long break can be tricky. Let's see how ASU does vs. Mankato.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:18 pm
by claver2010
added a defenseman for the 2nd half:

https://bceagles.com/news/2018/12/30/me ... oster.aspx

Right-shot defenseman Ben Finkelstein has officially been added to the Boston College men's hockey roster for the second semester of the season. Finkelstein will be eligible to play his first game for the Eagles on Jan. 11 against Providence.

A native of South Burlington, Vermont, Finkelstein comes to BC after stints with St. Lawrence in the ECAC and the USHL's Waterloo Black Hawks. He registered 23 points as a freshman at St. Lawrence during the 2016-17 season, which is tied for the third-best offensive season by a rookie defenseman in program history.

Finkelstein spent the second half of last season in Waterloo where he was named USHL Defenseman of the Year. He recorded 34 points to rank seventh among USHL defensemen, earning at least one point in 18 of his 23 appearances. He helped Waterloo capture its third Anderson Cup in team history as regular season champions.

Finkelstein will wear No. 6 for the Eagles and will join the roster as a second semester junior.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:37 pm
by Supahfan99
This program needs a kick in its fucking vagina.

2019 better bring a new coach.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:43 pm
by BCEagles66
What in the fuck is going on??? Bentley? ASU? The youth argument was fine for a year but this has become absurd.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:58 pm
by claver2010
who would've thought marty j's first big hire is replacing the best coach in bc history

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:51 pm
by Los
Wahlstrom just had his third goal of the tournament wiped off the board in the gold medal game of the World Juniors. Pretty bogus man in the crease call.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:29 pm
by Dick Rosenthal
It is time for Coach Champion to do the honorable thing and announce his retirement at the end of this season. This team is an embarrassment to watch. The fact that they have regressed from last year is an indication that the staff is simply not doing its job. We were told that this team was far more talented then last year’s team and that they were ready to return to national prominence. Laughable. This is a really bad hockey team. And worse then being short on talent—a charge that could be leveled at the team the previous two years—now they have no heart either.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:18 am
by eepstein0
Dick Rosenthal wrote:It is time for Coach Champion to do the honorable thing and announce his retirement at the end of this season. This team is an embarrassment to watch. The fact that they have regressed from last year is an indication that the staff is simply not doing its job. We were told that this team was far more talented then last year’s team and that they were ready to return to national prominence. Laughable. This is a really bad hockey team. And worse then being short on talent—a charge that could be leveled at the team the previous two years—now they have no heart either.


I've only been to 2 games so take it for what it is worth.

There's not overwhelming talent, but there's enough to win games.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:57 am
by BostonCollege1
There are currently three teams in college hockey whose players average less than 21 years old - Michigan, BU and BC. All having sub-standard years. All adding young players from the USNDP, too. Adding Finkelstein and losing Tortora and Samuelsson made BC's average age older.

BC players older than 21:

Ron Greco (F) 23 1995
Ian Milosz (G) 23 1995
Michael Kim (D) 23 1995
Michael Merulla (C/RW) 22 1996
Joey Dudek (C) 22 1996
Christopher Brown (C) 22 1996

Kim's the only high-level player in the bunch.

Having an older team doesn't mean quality, though. The 10 oldest teams:

Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville
Minnesota State Univ. (Mankato)
Univ. of Alaska-Anchorage
Bemidji State Univ.
Army (U.S. Military Academy)
American International College
Canisius College
Sacred Heart Univ.
Northern Michigan Univ.
Robert Morris Univ.

Unless any of the above win an auto-bid, only Mankato is making the tournament. We're only three years removed from a Frozen Four, let's give Jerry a couple more years before panicking. We've got some very good recruits coming in the next two years. Lose the mostly under-achieving senior class, give less playing time to McInnis and Walker, keep Cotton, Wahlstrom and McBain, get McPhee and Grando going again, and they'll be fine. Maybe it's time to change up the assistants, too - Jerry needs an ass-kicker on staff. Lots of ifs, but it can be done.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:31 am
by Dick Rosenthal
BostonCollege1 wrote:There are currently three teams in college hockey whose players average less than 21 years old - Michigan, BU and BC. All having sub-standard years. All adding young players from the USNDP, too. Adding Finkelstein and losing Tortora and Samuelsson made BC's average age older.

BC players older than 21:

Ron Greco (F) 23 1995
Ian Milosz (G) 23 1995
Michael Kim (D) 23 1995
Michael Merulla (C/RW) 22 1996
Joey Dudek (C) 22 1996
Christopher Brown (C) 22 1996

Kim's the only high-level player in the bunch.

Having an older team doesn't mean quality, though. The 10 oldest teams:

Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville
Minnesota State Univ. (Mankato)
Univ. of Alaska-Anchorage
Bemidji State Univ.
Army (U.S. Military Academy)
American International College
Canisius College
Sacred Heart Univ.
Northern Michigan Univ.
Robert Morris Univ.

Unless any of the above win an auto-bid, only Mankato is making the tournament. We're only three years removed from a Frozen Four, let's give Jerry a couple more years before panicking. We've got some very good recruits coming in the next two years. Lose the mostly under-achieving senior class, give less playing time to McInnis and Walker, keep Cotton, Wahlstrom and McBain, get McPhee and Grando going again, and they'll be fine. Maybe it's time to change up the assistants, too - Jerry needs an ass-kicker on staff. Lots of ifs, but it can be done.


I get your point and if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt it is Jerry, but here is the problem. Three years ago when he won the HE regular season title with a roster that was largely bereft of talent, I think it was one of his best coaching jobs—although it had to be noted that the fact that the roster was bereft of talent was entirely the fault of the York and the coaching staff and some unpardonable recruiting whiffs and misjudgments with respect to some of the kids he brought in. Last year I was a little troubled. We were assured that the talent had been upgraded a bit and yet they ended up in the exact same position in a Hockey East that has sucked. And then there is this year, again, we were told there was a bit more of an upgrade in talent and yet, it actually looks like the bottom is falling out and some of last year’s talent is regressing. And here is the thing, there is no excuse for BC to not make the tournament for more than three years. Lest anyone forget, when Jerry inherited the flaming pile of manure that Cedorchuk left behind, it took him four years to bring us to the Championship game (which we would have won if Jamie Fucking O’Leary was not bad at shooting a hockey puck). Anyone think this collection of garbage has any chance of doing anything next year? Me neither. Four or five years of blowing ass is what happens when your legendary coach is running out the clock and you hire Steve Cedorchuk out of a misguided sense of loyalty. Otherwise it should never happen. And spare me the arguments about the Big 10 and the hockey arms race. It is true for schools like Colorado College and the like. It is not true for BC and BU, which can match facilities and offer far better locations.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:33 am
by BostonCollege1
Dick Rosenthal wrote:
BostonCollege1 wrote:There are currently three teams in college hockey whose players average less than 21 years old - Michigan, BU and BC. All having sub-standard years. All adding young players from the USNDP, too. Adding Finkelstein and losing Tortora and Samuelsson made BC's average age older.

BC players older than 21:

Ron Greco (F) 23 1995
Ian Milosz (G) 23 1995
Michael Kim (D) 23 1995
Michael Merulla (C/RW) 22 1996
Joey Dudek (C) 22 1996
Christopher Brown (C) 22 1996

Kim's the only high-level player in the bunch.

Having an older team doesn't mean quality, though. The 10 oldest teams:

Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville
Minnesota State Univ. (Mankato)
Univ. of Alaska-Anchorage
Bemidji State Univ.
Army (U.S. Military Academy)
American International College
Canisius College
Sacred Heart Univ.
Northern Michigan Univ.
Robert Morris Univ.

Unless any of the above win an auto-bid, only Mankato is making the tournament. We're only three years removed from a Frozen Four, let's give Jerry a couple more years before panicking. We've got some very good recruits coming in the next two years. Lose the mostly under-achieving senior class, give less playing time to McInnis and Walker, keep Cotton, Wahlstrom and McBain, get McPhee and Grando going again, and they'll be fine. Maybe it's time to change up the assistants, too - Jerry needs an ass-kicker on staff. Lots of ifs, but it can be done.


I get your point and if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt it is Jerry, but here is the problem. Three years ago when he won the HE regular season title with a roster that was largely bereft of talent, I think it was one of his best coaching jobs—although it had to be noted that the fact that the roster was bereft of talent was entirely the fault of the York and the coaching staff and some unpardonable recruiting whiffs and misjudgments with respect to some of the kids he brought in. Last year I was a little troubled. We were assured that the talent had been upgraded a bit and yet they ended up in the exact same position in a Hockey East that has sucked. And then there is this year, again, we were told there was a bit more of an upgrade in talent and yet, it actually looks like the bottom is falling out and some of last year’s talent is regressing. And here is the thing, there is no excuse for BC to not make the tournament for more than three years. Lest anyone forget, when Jerry inherited the flaming pile of manure that Cedorchuk left behind, it took him four years to bring us to the Championship game (which we would have won if Jamie Fucking O’Leary was not bad at shooting a hockey puck). Anyone think this collection of garbage has any chance of doing anything next year? Me neither. Four or five years of blowing ass is what happens when your legendary coach is running out the clock and you hire Steve Cedorchuk out of a misguided sense of loyalty. Otherwise it should never happen. And spare me the arguments about the Big 10 and the hockey arms race. It is true for schools like Colorado College and the like. It is not true for BC and BU, which can match facilities and offer far better locations.


I agree with you one some points, but let's not compare the past few years to the Cedorchuk error, when the recruiting process was to sign the best Callahan available. Under Jerry, some recruiting whiffs have definitely occurred, but some date back to when Cav was the primary recruiter - Straight and Sit, anyone? The bigger problem is the number of kids that keep leaving way too early, or not showing up - many to spend years getting paid $50k in the bus leagues, despite what their "advisors" told them. Since the recruiting process has been starting when kids are 14 (like with Spencer Knight), if someone leaves early, backs out at the last minute or is denied admission (Tolvanen), you've got crap to backfill with. Hopefully the new reforms will help, and perhaps parents will see that two years at the National Team and a year or two of college doesn't necessarily mean that your kid is going to be an instant millionaire.

I have some hope after tonight's game. There *is* some talent there, but Cotton, Hutsko, Wahlstrom and McBain need to stay, and key recruits needs to show up, for the team to get back to a high level. I'm assuming that Woll is gone after this year.

Re: 2018-19 Season

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:05 pm
by Eaglekeeper
College hockey has changed for the worst due to the best players staying one or two years. That’s not changing with the NHL continuing to expand. BC is bringing in 5 eighteen year old freshman next year. Alex Newhook will be another 1st round pick. These kids at 18 are very talented, but they have to play against 23-24 year olds every game. It’s a big adjustment physically. O’Brien for PC is another 1st round pick who has 2 goals this year. Michigan, North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan St, BU, & BC are all struggling this year. That’s a combined 41 national championships among this elite group. All due to losing their best players after 1 or 2 years.

Let’s look at JY’s national championship teams. With the exception of Kalanos and Kobasew, the top players stayed at least three years and several 4 years. Same goes for Maine with the Kayria brothers. The quality of the game has dropped dramatically and it’s not going to recover until the NHL follows MLB and that’s never going to happen. The other option is for the NCAA to only give 3 years of eligibility to any player that turns 20 during their freshman year. This would force every team to stop bringing in a lot of 20 and some 21 year old freshman. Not every kid can get a degree in 3 years. There is no reason to delay the start of their college careers other than to gain an age advantage.

The other self inflicted issue with BC is that they are way too small on defense (thank you Greg Brown). Not only are they young, their defenseman get caught running around their own zone. This will take another 2-3 years to correct.

As far as players leaving early, Woll, Cotton & Wahlstrom are all likely to leave, not entirely set in stone. It’s really tough for goalies to make it in the NHL at all, let alone their first year. BC has a terrific recruit in Spencer Knight the goalie on the USNDT. Newhook & Boldy are two very good forwards coming in. If all 3 return BC will be very good up front and in goal, but still lacking on defense. It does not mean that they cannot win another NC because there are no great teams in college hockey.