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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:00 pm

claver2010 wrote:So looks like:

Anisomov, Dubinsky, Erixon, & a 1st for Nash.

Not terrible at all considering the names that Columbus has been throwing out there for months (personnel-wise, I'll leave the CBA/cap musings to FLYINGELVISFAXXOT


yeah, that's really, really light. Wasn't Howson demanding Gaborik and Kreider at some point?
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby Endless Mike on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:03 pm

eagle9903 wrote:Flyers sign Shea Weber to a 14 year 100+ million dollar offer sheet. Will Preds match?



Hockey contracts are funny. Do the Islanders still have Slick DiPietro under contract through 2068? :quadlaser
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:05 pm

Scott Howson deserves to be taken out behind the shed and shot. I hope Columbus enjoys another 5 years of mediocrity as they hope to be saved by a middling goalie that couldn't stick in Philly and an 18 year old smallish offensive defenseman.

Cap wise I imagine it nets out pretty even, though I have pretty much been of the thought since the beginning that I wouldn't want to touch Nash's contract at all. Now if he turns out to be a 50-goal guy now that he has a legitimate pass-first center carrying him along, then it could be worth it, but, man, that is an awful lot to pay for any winger, especially one that isn't an elite goal-scoring winger yet.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:10 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:So looks like:

Anisomov, Dubinsky, Erixon, & a 1st for Nash.

Not terrible at all considering the names that Columbus has been throwing out there for months (personnel-wise, I'll leave the CBA/cap musings to FLYINGELVISFAXXOT


yeah, that's really, really light. Wasn't Howson demanding Gaborik and Kreider at some point?


I remember it as:

1 of Kreider/McD
1 of Stepan/Dubinsky
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:11 pm

He was asking the B's for Hamilton, Seguin and a first. And settled for this pile of crap.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:49 pm

flyingelvii wrote:Scott Howson deserves to be taken out behind the shed and shot. I hope Columbus enjoys another 5 years of mediocrity as they hope to be saved by a middling goalie that couldn't stick in Philly and an 18 year old smallish offensive defenseman.

Cap wise I imagine it nets out pretty even, though I have pretty much been of the thought since the beginning that I wouldn't want to touch Nash's contract at all. Now if he turns out to be a 50-goal guy now that he has a legitimate pass-first center carrying him along, then it could be worth it, but, man, that is an awful lot to pay for any winger, especially one that isn't an elite goal-scoring winger yet.


I prefer to think of Howson trading Couturier('s draft pick) and Voracek to the Flyers for 3 months of Jeff Carter who he would then trade for the tremendously awful Jack Johnson.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:57 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Scott Howson deserves to be taken out behind the shed and shot. I hope Columbus enjoys another 5 years of mediocrity as they hope to be saved by a middling goalie that couldn't stick in Philly and an 18 year old smallish offensive defenseman.

Cap wise I imagine it nets out pretty even, though I have pretty much been of the thought since the beginning that I wouldn't want to touch Nash's contract at all. Now if he turns out to be a 50-goal guy now that he has a legitimate pass-first center carrying him along, then it could be worth it, but, man, that is an awful lot to pay for any winger, especially one that isn't an elite goal-scoring winger yet.


I prefer to think of Howson trading Couturier('s draft pick) and Voracek to the Flyers for 3 months of Jeff Carter who he would then trade for the tremendously awful Jack Johnson.

I like to think of him as the guy that actually gave up something of value for Sergei Bobrovsky and is relatively content to go into a season where his job is on the line with him and Mason as his goalies.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:52 pm

flyingelvii wrote:
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flyingelvii wrote:Scott Howson deserves to be taken out behind the shed and shot. I hope Columbus enjoys another 5 years of mediocrity as they hope to be saved by a middling goalie that couldn't stick in Philly and an 18 year old smallish offensive defenseman.

Cap wise I imagine it nets out pretty even, though I have pretty much been of the thought since the beginning that I wouldn't want to touch Nash's contract at all. Now if he turns out to be a 50-goal guy now that he has a legitimate pass-first center carrying him along, then it could be worth it, but, man, that is an awful lot to pay for any winger, especially one that isn't an elite goal-scoring winger yet.


I prefer to think of Howson trading Couturier('s draft pick) and Voracek to the Flyers for 3 months of Jeff Carter who he would then trade for the tremendously awful Jack Johnson.

I like to think of him as the guy that actually gave up something of value for Sergei Bobrovsky and is relatively content to go into a season where his job is on the line with him and Mason as his goalies.


Bob could be (but probably won't be) good though and it was only a 2 and two 4s or something.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:34 am

it is never going to be 37 hours from now.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:12 pm

Well that sucked. Fucking hicks ruining my hockey season by keeping their player.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:28 pm

Unless they make another move, they're really going to struggle on the back end unless they acquire something else. A bunch of unproven guys, middle pair guys and one graybeard. Bryz might have to come up humAAANNNgas big next year to give them a legit chance at the Cup.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:42 pm

flyingelvii wrote:Unless they make another move, they're really going to struggle on the back end unless they acquire something else. A bunch of unproven guys, middle pair guys and one graybeard. Bryz might have to come up humAAANNNgas big next year to give them a legit chance at the Cup.


Timonen-Coburn-Grossmann are solid. Any would be a fine second pairing or the less good guy on a first pairing. Meszaros was at the same level before injury. Schenn is a complete wildcard. MAB and Gustaffson could eventually be better than a 6th guy but aren't there yet. Gervais and Lilja are not good enough to play but will have to.

We lack a shutdown first pairing guy. I expect us to offer a hundred 1st round picks for Yandle any day now.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:12 pm

Yeah I pretty much agree though I'm somewhat expecting Timmonen to fall off a cliff soon. Regardless, unless somebody makes a big leap this year, there aren't anybody you can point to as a legit shutdown guy, which is definitely going to be a problem in the Atlantic this year.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby bignick33 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:27 pm

eagle9903 wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Unless they make another move, they're really going to struggle on the back end unless they acquire something else. A bunch of unproven guys, middle pair guys and one graybeard. Bryz might have to come up humAAANNNgas big next year to give them a legit chance at the Cup.


Timonen-Coburn-Grossmann are solid. Any would be a fine second pairing or the less good guy on a first pairing. Meszaros was at the same level before injury. Schenn is a complete wildcard. MAB and Gustaffson could eventually be better than a 6th guy but aren't there yet. Gervais and Lilja are not good enough to play but will have to.

We lack a shutdown first pairing guy. I expect us to offer a hundred 1st round picks for Yandle any day now.


I assume you know this, but Yandle doesn't have an elite shutdown game.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:41 pm

flyingelvii wrote:Yeah I pretty much agree though I'm somewhat expecting Timmonen to fall off a cliff soon. Regardless, unless somebody makes a big leap this year, there aren't anybody you can point to as a legit shutdown guy, which is definitely going to be a problem in the Atlantic this year.


all true. its going to be like watching houston play football in the 80s.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eagle9903 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:41 pm

bignick33 wrote:
eagle9903 wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Unless they make another move, they're really going to struggle on the back end unless they acquire something else. A bunch of unproven guys, middle pair guys and one graybeard. Bryz might have to come up humAAANNNgas big next year to give them a legit chance at the Cup.


Timonen-Coburn-Grossmann are solid. Any would be a fine second pairing or the less good guy on a first pairing. Meszaros was at the same level before injury. Schenn is a complete wildcard. MAB and Gustaffson could eventually be better than a 6th guy but aren't there yet. Gervais and Lilja are not good enough to play but will have to.

We lack a shutdown first pairing guy. I expect us to offer a hundred 1st round picks for Yandle any day now.


I assume you know this, but Yandle doesn't have an elite shutdown game.


I did not mean to imply i thought going after yandle was good.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:47 am

Horton cleared for contact, but who knows at this stage.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby bignick33 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:09 am

claver2010 wrote:Horton cleared for contact, but who knows at this stage.


Mcqaid too
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby eepstein0 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:36 pm

I'm a big fan of Keith Yandle, but not at $100 mil.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:28 am

Wait, what?
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby bignick33 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:58 pm

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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:37 pm

Well if it was your garden variety female "Most Viewed" porn, we can safely say that nobody from EO hacked his account.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:46 pm

i laughed +5
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby bignick33 on Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:38 pm

Bruins sign Julien to an extension. Flyers sign Laviolette to an extension.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:44 am

eagle9903 wrote:
flyingelvii wrote:Yeah I pretty much agree though I'm somewhat expecting Timmonen to fall off a cliff soon. Regardless, unless somebody makes a big leap this year, there aren't anybody you can point to as a legit shutdown guy, which is definitely going to be a problem in the Atlantic this year.


all true. its going to be like watching houston play football in the 80s.

And now Meszaros tears his Achilles. Why you heff to be so brittle?
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:45 pm

FlyingElvisFaxxot, since you're up to date on CBA, etc any thoughts on the negotiations? I know these usually are a deadline type deals but the rhetoric coming out isn't good.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:45 pm

I'm certainly not encouraged and agree that it doesn't sound good but, again, it's so early in the game and the negotiations have really just begun. I imagine it's going to progress a lot more as they inch closer and closer to the September 15 deadline but I do share your sentiments. I really hope both sides aren't stupid enough to destroy the immense amount of goodwill they've gotten these past few years with another lockout but I don't trust the owners and I imagine the players are going to be a little hell-bent on getting some revenge for getting bent over during the last round. I really feel like the only news coming out is that there is no news.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:11 pm

Kreider is eligible to play in the AHL while the NHL is locked out without passing through waivers. Why I have no idea, just passing along info
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby flyingelvii on Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:27 pm

They had a special period where they could pass all necessary players through waivers so they would be eligible to play in the AHL. Basically a collusion, gentleman's agreement between all the owners to not be dickheads. This only applies to guys that aren't on their ELCs. Since Kreider is still on his ELC he can go to and fro the AHL without being subject to waivers. It's also how a team like the Flyers is able to get under the cap before placing all their guys on LTIR. They basically just put a few young guys "down" in the AHL on a paper move right before the season starts, get under the cap when including the injured players' contracts and then "call up" the ELC guys pretty much immediately. The B's will probably do this with Seguin, Caron and Hamilton in order to get underneath the cap so they can put Savard on LTIR.
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Re: Bruins Weirdos

Postby claver2010 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:26 am

Cam will be playing in the AHL as well
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