Lunardi Final 3 Out are BC, UGA and Bama

[Eagledom]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

[Art Vandelay]

Whether it should or not, that is not how it works

[BCMurt09]

Virginia Tech is hanging their hat on beating Duke and making it to the quarterfinals at the ACCs and that's all. I agree that I don't think you can justify getting VT in and not BC since we beat them twice head to head, but I think the selection committee is going to look more favorably on beating Duke rather than A&M, Cal, South Carolina etc. It's unfortunate but it's true.

[BC923]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

[Eagledom]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

VT will get in because they weren't invited the last 2 years....I think the committee will take that into account even though they will never admit it.

[twballgame9]

Whether it should or not, that is not how it works

Yes it is. The committee considers head to head when comparing comparable teams. Don't fool yourself into thinking that they completely discard all logic like Lunardi and the other fucktards with computers and boatloads of stats.

That said, I don't think either is getting in.

[Art Vandelay]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

[twballgame9]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

Their body of work is one win, which completely belies the body of work theory. It's the same reason BC got in after beating Carolina two years ago, despite being a mediocre team. 1 marquee win, head to head against bubble teams, all that shit matters, even if they say it doesn't. The tourney selection committee is not Michael Lewis.

Hate agreeing with OJ - if VT gets in, it is for two reasons: (1) beat #1 team in country; (2) got screwed last two years. There is no other excuse for putting that piece of shit team in the tourney.

For the record, BC's resume is better than a lot of teams. They took abn RPI hit for two games against Wake that they could do nothing about. However, the only place they aren't a tourney team is this artificial ESPN created 1-6 vs. top-50 teams stat. Add that to the fact that they embarrassed themselves against Clemson with everyone that matters watching the game, and those are the only two reasons they are out. Period.

[Art Vandelay]

Whether it should or not, that is not how it works

Yes it is. The committee considers head to head when comparing comparable teams. Don't fool yourself into thinking that they completely discard all logic like Lunardi and the other fucktards with computers and boatloads of stats.

That said, I don't think either is getting in.

I think VT is in mainly because someone has to makew it

[Art Vandelay]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

Their body of work is one win, which completely belies the body of work theory. It's the same reason BC got in after beating Carolina two years ago, despite being a mediocre team. 1 marquee win, head to head against bubble teams, all that shit matters, even if they say it doesn't. The tourney selection committee is not Michael Lewis.

Hate agreeing with OJ - if VT gets in, it is for two reasons: (1) beat #1 team in country; (2) got screwed last two years. There is no other excuse for putting that piece of shit team in the tourney.

For the record, BC's resume is better than a lot of teams. They took abn RPI hit for two games against Wake that they could do nothing about. However, the only place they aren't a tourney team is this artificial ESPN created 1-6 vs. top-50 teams stat. Add that to the fact that they embarrassed themselves against Clemson with everyone that matters watching the game, and those are the only two reasons they are out. Period.

Their body of work is one win, but so is ours. We beat A + M, they beat duke. And we could absolutely have done something about the rpi hit...finish top 4 in a fairly shitty Acc and not have to play an awful wake team.

[twballgame9]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

Their body of work is one win, which completely belies the body of work theory. It's the same reason BC got in after beating Carolina two years ago, despite being a mediocre team. 1 marquee win, head to head against bubble teams, all that shit matters, even if they say it doesn't. The tourney selection committee is not Michael Lewis.

Hate agreeing with OJ - if VT gets in, it is for two reasons: (1) beat #1 team in country; (2) got screwed last two years. There is no other excuse for putting that piece of shit team in the tourney.

For the record, BC's resume is better than a lot of teams. They took abn RPI hit for two games against Wake that they could do nothing about. However, the only place they aren't a tourney team is this artificial ESPN created 1-6 vs. top-50 teams stat. Add that to the fact that they embarrassed themselves against Clemson with everyone that matters watching the game, and those are the only two reasons they are out. Period.

Their body of work is one win, but so is ours. We beat A + M, they beat duke. And we could absolutely have done something about the rpi hit...finish top 4 in a fairly shitty Acc and not have to play an awful wake team.

And you continue to ignore that we beat them. Twice.

[Art Vandelay]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

Their body of work is one win, which completely belies the body of work theory. It's the same reason BC got in after beating Carolina two years ago, despite being a mediocre team. 1 marquee win, head to head against bubble teams, all that shit matters, even if they say it doesn't. The tourney selection committee is not Michael Lewis.

Hate agreeing with OJ - if VT gets in, it is for two reasons: (1) beat #1 team in country; (2) got screwed last two years. There is no other excuse for putting that piece of shit team in the tourney.

For the record, BC's resume is better than a lot of teams. They took abn RPI hit for two games against Wake that they could do nothing about. However, the only place they aren't a tourney team is this artificial ESPN created 1-6 vs. top-50 teams stat. Add that to the fact that they embarrassed themselves against Clemson with everyone that matters watching the game, and those are the only two reasons they are out. Period.

Their body of work is one win, but so is ours. We beat A + M, they beat duke. And we could absolutely have done something about the rpi hit...finish top 4 in a fairly shitty Acc and not have to play an awful wake team.

And you continue to ignore that we beat them. Twice.

Not ignoring it. Just realizing that the comittee is considering several teams for a few spots so head to head is not a factor because it does not work. Harvard is in the group being considered. Sshould they make it since they beat us?

[angrychicken]

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[BCEagle74]

Here we go.

VT and St Mary's should never get in over Bama and Georgia, but like I posted...

Third rail... and Seth Greenberg would be going looney and the committee hates bullshit and is political too.

[commavegarage]

Lunardi starts out hot by calling Duke a 2.

[cvilleagle]

Holy crap Clemson's in a play-in game

[BCSUPERFAN22]

UAB ??

[Eagledom]

you simply cannot justify VTech being in the field and BC not making it. Whether you think BC deserves a bid or not, you can't justify it if VTech gets in and BC is left out....BC finished higher in the conference standings and beat them head to head twice.

Head to head is not even a factor. They are comparing the entire season body of work and we come up a little short. It sux but we did this to ourselves.

If they are 2 of the last 8 teams, head to head (especially when they played 2 games) should certainly be a factor. Not to mention that even if you consider the "full body of work", BC finished higher in the standings, and I think had a better SOS...not sure about RPI.

How is VT's body of work at all good? They beat Duke once. They have nothing else, we finished higher in conference. VT is garbage and should not be in the tournament, whether or not we take their place.

Their body of work is not all that good, but neither is ours. Neither of us belong in but someone has to make it with this silly 68 team thing

Their body of work is one win, which completely belies the body of work theory. It's the same reason BC got in after beating Carolina two years ago, despite being a mediocre team. 1 marquee win, head to head against bubble teams, all that shit matters, even if they say it doesn't. The tourney selection committee is not Michael Lewis.

Hate agreeing with OJ - if VT gets in, it is for two reasons: (1) beat #1 team in country; (2) got screwed last two years. There is no other excuse for putting that piece of shit team in the tourney.

For the record, BC's resume is better than a lot of teams. They took abn RPI hit for two games against Wake that they could do nothing about. However, the only place they aren't a tourney team is this artificial ESPN created 1-6 vs. top-50 teams stat. Add that to the fact that they embarrassed themselves against Clemson with everyone that matters watching the game, and those are the only two reasons they are out. Period.

Their body of work is one win, but so is ours. We beat A + M, they beat duke. And we could absolutely have done something about the rpi hit...finish top 4 in a fairly shitty Acc and not have to play an awful wake team.

And you continue to ignore that we beat them. Twice.

Not ignoring it. Just realizing that the comittee is considering several teams for a few spots so head to head is not a factor because it does not work. Harvard is in the group being considered. Sshould they make it since they beat us?

if VT had a body of work, your argument might make some sense. Since they don't it would be ridiculous if they made it and BC didn't. That's the point.

[BCEagle74]

Georgia is in and deservedly so.

74 1 --- Lunardi missed.

I may fade soon...

[Eagledom]

Holy crap Clemson's in a play-in game

I guess we know what that means.

[auggiebc]

Holy crap Clemson's in a play-in game

This spells doom for us obviously.....

But then they come out with Georgia as a 10 seed???

I don't know what to think now..

[commavegarage]

Uab?
Nova a 9?
Clemson Play-in?

[cvilleagle]

Holy crap Clemson's in a play-in game

This spells doom for us obviously.....

But then they come out with Georgia as a 10 seed???

I don't know what to think now..

The good news is that it seems like Lunardi has no idea what the hell he's talking about.

[BCEagle74]

Seth Davis and Doug Gottlieb and you can add Barkley to the trio of totally worthless.

My Bama pick should get in now and that should make VT sweat some now since Bama beat Georgia twice.

VT is an NIT team whether they make it or not.

The Seth meltdown hissy fit would be fun to watch.

Hello...........................!!!!!!!!!

[claver2010]

This is why hockey selection is so much better, teams play it out on the ice

[auggiebc]

the espn guys going crazy about UAB getting in. And I don't blame them. How in the world does UAB get in. They have the shittiest resume ever.

[Pahreen]

UAB in? Clemson, play-in? Georgia, a 10 seed?

I think the committee usually does a decent job, but this seems like a bad start.

[auggiebc]

Michigan an 8 seed??? We would beat Michigan by 15 points.

What is going on here?

Michigan gets in as an 8 and we go to NIT. WTF

[BCEagle74]

Last Four In
Saint Mary's
Virginia Tech

Clemson
USC

First Four Out
Alabama
Georgia
Boston College
UAB

Lunardi has missed 2 now with UAB and Georgia.

St. Mary's and VT are sweating now.. USC too may be punished for coaches Zona incident??

3 teams shitting bricks now!

[angrychicken]

Michigan an 8 seed??? We would beat Michigan by 15 points.

What is going on here?

Michigan gets in as an 8 and we go to NIT. WTF

I'm still thinking that we get a play in game.