auggiebc {l Wrote}:I agree that Clemson is a bad matchup for us. But a few of things in our favor:
-BC is hot right now. Reggie, Trap, Raji, and Biko all peaking at the same time.
-Clemson will not have played in 6 days come tipoff. This time of year, that is a long layoff. I think there's a good chance they start a bit rusty.
-Clemson is a much different team away from their home court. They don't play with nearly as much confidence.
If we jump on them early, we'll have a good chance.
auggiebc {l Wrote}:
If we jump on them early, we'll have a good chance.
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, still have to get past Wake on thursday afternoon. I hope the team isn't taking them too lightly after the win on sunday. Playing at home on senior day is far different than an early matinee game in front of a pro-wake crowd down in Greensboro.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
and it should go without saying that we message board posters should make sure that we focus on thursday and not look ahead to friday. if we do, the team will lose
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, still have to get past Wake on thursday afternoon. I hope the team isn't taking them too lightly after the win on sunday. Playing at home on senior day is far different than an early matinee game in front of a pro-wake crowd down in Greensboro.
I'd have to agree, Thursday will be trickier in Greensboro.
Miami > UVA (horrible coaching with tons of talent vs. great coach with no talent)
BC > Wake (don't do it BC)
MD > NCST (I could see MD just quitting in this one)
VT > GT (Paul Hewitt's last ever game at GT)
Miami > UNC (yes you're reading this correctly)
BC > Clemson (close game but I think we win)
Duke > MD (closer than you'd think)
VT > FSU (VT needs this one in the worst way)
Miami > BC (we match-up even worse against Miami than Clemson)
Duke > MD
Duke > MD (just like last year)
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, still have to get past Wake on thursday afternoon. I hope the team isn't taking them too lightly after the win on sunday. Playing at home on senior day is far different than an early matinee game in front of a pro-wake crowd down in Greensboro.
SJeagle09 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, still have to get past Wake on thursday afternoon. I hope the team isn't taking them too lightly after the win on sunday. Playing at home on senior day is far different than an early matinee game in front of a pro-wake crowd down in Greensboro.
I'd have to agree, Thursday will be trickier in Greensboro.
Miami > UVA (horrible coaching with tons of talent vs. great coach with no talent)
BC > Wake (don't do it BC)
MD > NCST (I could see MD just quitting in this one)
VT > GT (Paul Hewitt's last ever game at GT)
Miami > UNC (yes you're reading this correctly)
BC > Clemson (close game but I think we win)
Duke > MD (closer than you'd think)
VT > FSU (VT needs this one in the worst way)
Miami > BC (we match-up even worse against Miami than Clemson)
Duke > MD
Duke > MD (just like last year)
I know you are going to be there, so I will defer to you but Duke and Maryland will play 3 times in a row?
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
You have to be a major negative Nancy at this point to think that a loss to Clemson, a team already in, knocks BC out. I suppose some weird mid major shit could happen, but things would have to break just right for BC to be out, not in.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
You have to be a major negative Nancy at this point to think that a loss to Clemson, a team already in, knocks BC out. I suppose some weird mid major shit could happen, but things would have to break just right for BC to be out, not in.
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
You have to be a major negative Nancy at this point to think that a loss to Clemson, a team already in, knocks BC out. I suppose some weird mid major shit could happen, but things would have to break just right for BC to be out, not in.
I hope we don't have to find out, but my basic concern is:
1. Perception that ACC is down means 20 wins isn't what it used to be.
2. Our RPI/SOS (the best part of our resume) are headed down, even if we beat Wake on Thursday.
3. If it's close, I can just see committee members looking at those two Ivy losses and saying "0-2 vs. Ivy isn't a tournament resume",
and finally:
4. Even if we deserve a bid, we're BC. We get no BAMA.
pick6pedro {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:I'm still pessimistic about our chances. I think we'll beat Wake on Thursday, but I see us losing to Clemson and being a 1 seed in the NIT. I have no idea why people think we'll beat Clemson. The last game against them was not even that close, and they're just not a good matchup for us. Despite the fact that it's difficult to beat the same team three times in one season, I would much rather have drawn VT in the 2nd round of this tournament.
You have to be a major negative Nancy at this point to think that a loss to Clemson, a team already in, knocks BC out. I suppose some weird mid major shit could happen, but things would have to break just right for BC to be out, not in.
I hope we don't have to find out, but my basic concern is:
1. Perception that ACC is down means 20 wins isn't what it used to be.
2. Our RPI/SOS (the best part of our resume) are headed down, even if we beat Wake on Thursday.
3. If it's close, I can just see committee members looking at those two Ivy losses and saying "0-2 vs. Ivy isn't a tournament resume",
and finally:
4. Even if we deserve a bid, we're BC. We get no BAMA.
As far as I know, number 1 is not a factor the committee looks at. Number two may be headed down, but in H2H with other bubble teams, those numbers are still strong. Number 3 could easily occur if they need something to distinguish between us and another bubble team with similar numbers. Number 4 isn't necessarily true - look at the 7 seed 2 years ago (when a 10/11 seemed more in line with the resume) and the 11 seed in 2002 (when I feel they did not deserve a bid at all and then they got tooled on by Texas).
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:bcbcbcbcbc4444 {l Wrote}:Hypothetical: BC beats Wake and VT beats GT, then both BC and VT lose in the next round. Which team would get into the tournament first? (obviously both may not get in in this scenario) I would hope it would be BC because VT is absolute trash. Outside of the Duke win their resume is awful, but I feel like the consensus is that VT is better than they actually are.
this seems like a very lawyerly way to avoid a warning. caddy, i defer to your lawyerly judgement
auggiebc {l Wrote}:The Clemmy is tough at home. But get them on the road or at a neutral site and they turn into a paper Tiger (haha...get it?)
seriously, they are an awful team away from their home gym. And BC is playing well right now. We can beat them.
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:4. Even if we deserve a bid, we're BC. We get no BAMA.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:auggiebc {l Wrote}:The Clemmy is tough at home. But get them on the road or at a neutral site and they turn into a paper Tiger (haha...get it?)
seriously, they are an awful team away from their home gym. And BC is playing well right now. We can beat them.
They better beat them. This is an extremely important ACC tournament for BC. Their seeding is entirely dependent upon how well they do vs The Clem and then UNC.
BC is going to be absolutely CRUSHED by graduation. ALL of the big men are gone when the tourney ends, all of them. NFW BC gets even a sniff of the tourney next year. They will be very lucky if they crack the NIT in 2012.
They really need to close the deal this year. In the ACC, 20 wins gets you into the tourney no doubt about it. They will struggle to even win 12 next year.
ryrob {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:auggiebc {l Wrote}:The Clemmy is tough at home. But get them on the road or at a neutral site and they turn into a paper Tiger (haha...get it?)
seriously, they are an awful team away from their home gym. And BC is playing well right now. We can beat them.
They better beat them. This is an extremely important ACC tournament for BC. Their seeding is entirely dependent upon how well they do vs The Clem and then UNC.
BC is going to be absolutely CRUSHED by graduation. ALL of the big men are gone when the tourney ends, all of them. NFW BC gets even a sniff of the tourney next year. They will be very lucky if they crack the NIT in 2012.
They really need to close the deal this year. In the ACC, 20 wins gets you into the tourney no doubt about it. They will struggle to even win 12 next year.
That's fucking dumb. Reggie isn't going anywhere. Outside of Raji's offensive boards and Southern when he feels like playing D, I'll miss none of the seniors. I think the freshman will be fine. Tourney next year is definitely not out of the question.
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:ryrob {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:auggiebc {l Wrote}:The Clemmy is tough at home. But get them on the road or at a neutral site and they turn into a paper Tiger (haha...get it?)
seriously, they are an awful team away from their home gym. And BC is playing well right now. We can beat them.
They better beat them. This is an extremely important ACC tournament for BC. Their seeding is entirely dependent upon how well they do vs The Clem and then UNC.
BC is going to be absolutely CRUSHED by graduation. ALL of the big men are gone when the tourney ends, all of them. NFW BC gets even a sniff of the tourney next year. They will be very lucky if they crack the NIT in 2012.
They really need to close the deal this year. In the ACC, 20 wins gets you into the tourney no doubt about it. They will struggle to even win 12 next year.
That's fucking dumb. Reggie isn't going anywhere. Outside of Raji's offensive boards and Southern when he feels like playing D, I'll miss none of the seniors. I think the freshman will be fine. Tourney next year is definitely not out of the question.
Speaking of fucking dumb, you dont think we'll miss our starting point guard? Or our second leading scorer and leading rebounder? And are you aware that we recruited a 6'11 guy, a 6'10 guy, and a star 6'8 power forward?
This class will absolutely be missed.
ryrob {l Wrote}:BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:ryrob {l Wrote}:innocentbystander {l Wrote}:They better beat them. This is an extremely important ACC tournament for BC. Their seeding is entirely dependent upon how well they do vs The Clem and then UNC.
BC is going to be absolutely CRUSHED by graduation. ALL of the big men are gone when the tourney ends, all of them. NFW BC gets even a sniff of the tourney next year. They will be very lucky if they crack the NIT in 2012.
They really need to close the deal this year. In the ACC, 20 wins gets you into the tourney no doubt about it. They will struggle to even win 12 next year.
That's fucking dumb. Reggie isn't going anywhere. Outside of Raji's offensive boards and Southern when he feels like playing D, I'll miss none of the seniors. I think the freshman will be fine. Tourney next year is definitely not out of the question.
Speaking of fucking dumb, you dont think we'll miss our starting point guard? Or our second leading scorer and leading rebounder? And are you aware that we recruited a 6'11 guy, a 6'10 guy, and a star 6'8 power forward?
This class will absolutely be missed.
We're winning more than 12 games next year. We're by no means a tourney lock, but that's absolutely retarded to think we'll be that bad.
branchinator {l Wrote}:We'll miss Trapani and Raji. We won't miss Southern, Paris, or Dunn.
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