branchinator {l Wrote}:This trade won't make the Knicks much better but they'll at least be more interesting. The Knicks somehow figured out a way to make their team defense even worse.
HJS {l Wrote}: Finally... what the eff happened to Corey Brewer? He was so awesome at Florida. Now... he is a throw-in expiring contract.
Logitano {l Wrote}:The Knicks as previously configured were good but not good enough. I have no problem blowing up the roster for Melo. Not one of those players was worth not doing this deal over even if satan himself was pulling the strings of dolan. I think Donnie did a great job putting the knicks in the proper position to do the deal. Would have liked to have kept Chandler or Galo to have a backup at SF and melo certainly could have helped out the bockers by saying there was no chance he would ever sign with the nyets. He did not do it but he did get paid and is now playing for the franchise he wanted to play for so he wins. As a season ticket holder for the NYK I just won too because my tickets for the next few games just quadrupled in price. Good times, aint we luck we got them, Good times!
claver2010 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:The Knicks as previously configured were good but not good enough. I have no problem blowing up the roster for Melo. Not one of those players was worth not doing this deal over even if satan himself was pulling the strings of dolan. I think Donnie did a great job putting the knicks in the proper position to do the deal. Would have liked to have kept Chandler or Galo to have a backup at SF and melo certainly could have helped out the bockers by saying there was no chance he would ever sign with the nyets. He did not do it but he did get paid and is now playing for the franchise he wanted to play for so he wins. As a season ticket holder for the NYK I just won too because my tickets for the next few games just quadrupled in price. Good times, aint we luck we got them, Good times!
Problem with Chandler was that he wasn't going to be here next year, I would've liked to keep Gallo. 22 years old and still improving, he'd be great to hover along the 3 point line when Melo drives to the hoop.
Walsh deserves credit for getting this team out of cap armageddon -the idea that Isaiah is still in Dolans ear makes me want to . He must have something on Dolan, there's no other explanation.
Bottom line is you need stars to win in this league, they have 2 of the top 15 players at 28 & 26, it's easier to fill in the role players.
HJS {l Wrote}:Great article from Lupica.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... _thom.html
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Wait, what?
The Knicks aren't any better today than they were yesterday. And Amare is 28 going on 45. They did get a big star though, although he is grossly overrated. But it should ensure more butts in the seats to witness .500 basketball.
Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Wait, what?
The Knicks aren't any better today than they were yesterday. And Amare is 28 going on 45. They did get a big star though, although he is grossly overrated. But it should ensure more butts in the seats to witness .500 basketball.
The Knicks are better than they were yesterday by a country mile. The Knicks sell out almost every game. Everytime you write something like that I wish the coward paul pierce had finished the job when he attempted suicide 10 years ago.
Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Wait, what?
The Knicks aren't any better today than they were yesterday. And Amare is 28 going on 45. They did get a big star though, although he is grossly overrated. But it should ensure more butts in the seats to witness .500 basketball.
The Knicks are better than they were yesterday by a country mile. The Knicks sell out almost every game. Everytime you write something like that I wish the coward paul pierce had finished the job when he attempted suicide 10 years ago.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Logitano {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Wait, what?
The Knicks aren't any better today than they were yesterday. And Amare is 28 going on 45. They did get a big star though, although he is grossly overrated. But it should ensure more butts in the seats to witness .500 basketball.
The Knicks are better than they were yesterday by a country mile. The Knicks sell out almost every game. Everytime you write something like that I wish the coward paul pierce had finished the job when he attempted suicide 10 years ago.
The Knicks may not even be as good today as they were yesterday. Enjoy the "Pay Amare to get surgery and watch Carmelo go for 30 on 56 shots while giving up 140 points" era of Knick hoop.
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:Have to agree with 9 on this. They decimated their roster for this trade, and that would even be fine if they had 2 superstars, but they have 1, given that Amare is toast. So Carmelo is going to try to carry the team, and he's a very, very, good player, but he's not good enough to carry them night in and night out. Ronnie Turiaf is this team's starting center. Ronnie Turiaf.
That being said, while they're not better, it may still have been a good trade. At least they'll sell some tickets, and they weren't a legit contender anyways.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:This is only a good trade (a) 2 seasons from now if (b) the Knicks can sign a guy like Dwight Howard and (c) Amare doesn't break in the meantime and (d) they get rid of that bum Schottenheimer D'Antoni that coaches them and thinks defense is overrated. For the next two seasons, the Knicks remain what they were - a .500 team with no defense. They got a great scorer, but are left with one big and a PG that can't do anything but shoot at this point in his career.
Adding a PG that can't penetrate and a ball hog. Amare is going to love this shit.
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:Have to agree with 9 on this. They decimated their roster for this trade, and that would even be fine if they had 2 superstars, but they have 1, given that Amare is toast. So Carmelo is going to try to carry the team, and he's a very, very, good player, but he's not good enough to carry them night in and night out. Ronnie Turiaf is this team's starting center. Ronnie Turiaf.
That being said, while they're not better, it may still have been a good trade. At least they'll sell some tickets, and they weren't a legit contender anyways.
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:The Knicks have Dolan and Isiah now in the lead and much less talent. Walsh is now a GM dunsel and he gave away the talent needed if Amare goes down or to even go deep in the playoffs??
BCEagle74 {l Wrote}:Garnett had lesser knee issues too, -------but the Celtics had Ainge and some real talent --- Rondo, Pierce and Ray and LSU Baby is a solid sub? Perkins and others. The Celts had some stars???
HJS {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:Have to agree with 9 on this. They decimated their roster for this trade, and that would even be fine if they had 2 superstars, but they have 1, given that Amare is toast. So Carmelo is going to try to carry the team, and he's a very, very, good player, but he's not good enough to carry them night in and night out. Ronnie Turiaf is this team's starting center. Ronnie Turiaf.
That being said, while they're not better, it may still have been a good trade. At least they'll sell some tickets, and they weren't a legit contender anyways.
And the Cs did worse damage to their roster to acquire Garnett. They filled it with late 1st rounders, 2nd rounders and exception contracts... and then they went out and won the gd NBA championship. Every team would gut their roster for one of the true bonafide stars in the Association. The Knicks are better today than they were yesterday. And they are better tomorrow too. The issues with Amare's knees are real. But, they already had the risk. They didn't just acquire him in the deal.
The question I raised was whether they are good enough. They aren't. Amare was a well-deserved All-Star and, so long as he can deal with the bone-on-bone grinding, he will continue to be an elite player. When combined with Carmelo, this means that the Knicks will win twice as many games as they lose. They don't play D and that will be their death in the second round of the playoffs. But, they will make the second round (which they couldn't say before the trade).
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