BC/Harvard-This Time We're Super Serial...Except Not Really

[EagleDave]

Who's it going to be? Somebody needs to call for Donahue's head. Or was that just a Skinner thing?

Some of you crack me up. January 1: BC beats South Carolina, team is declared significantly improved, the dark days of Skinner's reign of lazy terror are finally behind us! January 5: BC loses to Harvard, team is declared awful, all hopes of NCAA tournament dashed forever.

I don't think they're awful, I just can't imagine how they make the tourney with 2 losses to Ivy teams. The only common denominator in these last 3 losses is Tommy Amaker and our gutless players, which do you think is to blame? I personally don't blame Skinner or Donahue for this or previous pathetic efforts. They just think they're better than the Crimson and don't have to try, and that's how you get beat.

Literally every player of consequence on this team has been a part of the previous 2 soul crushing losses to these guys...the arrogance thing should never have entered into the picture tonight.

[joemack13]

Who's it going to be? Somebody needs to call for Donahue's head. Or was that just a Skinner thing?

Some of you crack me up. January 1: BC beats South Carolina, team is declared significantly improved, the dark days of Skinner's reign of lazy terror are finally behind us! January 5: BC loses to Harvard, team is declared awful, all hopes of NCAA tournament dashed forever.

I don't think they're awful, I just can't imagine how they make the tourney with 2 losses to Ivy teams. The only common denominator in these last 3 losses is Tommy Amaker and our gutless players, which do you think is to blame? I personally don't blame Skinner or Donahue for this or previous pathetic efforts. They just think they're better than the Crimson and don't have to try, and that's how you get beat.

I hope they don't think they're better than Harvard. Do they believe in a heliocentric universe?

[ryrob]

Who's it going to be? Somebody needs to call for Donahue's head. Or was that just a Skinner thing?

Some of you crack me up. January 1: BC beats South Carolina, team is declared significantly improved, the dark days of Skinner's reign of lazy terror are finally behind us! January 5: BC loses to Harvard, team is declared awful, all hopes of NCAA tournament dashed forever.

I don't think they're awful, I just can't imagine how they make the tourney with 2 losses to Ivy teams. The only common denominator in these last 3 losses is Tommy Amaker and our gutless players, which do you think is to blame? I personally don't blame Skinner or Donahue for this or previous pathetic efforts. They just think they're better than the Crimson and don't have to try, and that's how you get beat.

Literally every player of consequence on this team has been a part of the previous 2 soul crushing losses to these guys...the arrogance thing should never have entered into the picture tonight.

Well it obviously did. They made a freshman on Harvard look all-ACC. I find it hard to believe that both Skinner last year and Donahue this year failed to prepare this team after losing the first time to Harvard. This is 100% on them. Playing down to opponent levels has been a hallmark of this entire group of players during their entirety at BC. 3 straight years of WTF losses, not only to Harvard, but to other awful teams as well.

[bluefishskip]

Cannot give up 78 points to Harvard on your home court.

[2008Eagle]

probably have to go 11-5 in the acc to make the tourney now, 21-9 could get us is, but I don't see that happening

Unless Harvard wins the Ivy League and we go 10-6 minimum, no shot whatsoever.

Didn't our last tourney team have losses to St. Louis, Harvard, and Maine? Of course they had to balance that out with wins over Duke and UNC, but I'm just sayin'.

What's abundantly clear is that none of us have a beat as to what's going on here.

Maine was last year.

[bluefishskip]

Last Tournament Team lost to St.Louis and Harvard in the same season.....
This year's team....the Yale loss is going to be the brutal one. Harvard will eventually fall around the 100 mark in the RPI (give or take 20 spots either way). Yale's RPI coming into tonight was 159, and they just survived by 1 in OT at 1-12 Holy Cross, so their season doesn't look all too promising.

The bigger issue with tournament resume for this team is quality wins..........BC's RPI was 30 entering today, but with only 1 Top 50 win (Texas A&M), that is a shaky resume at best. Of course the perception of poor losses will not help things, but despite all those name wins in the non-conference, only 1 is top 50........so BC needs to grab some signature wins in ACC play

Entering Today, ACC RPI's were.......
Duke 9, Miami 22, UNC 33
All other ACC opponents have NIT or worse RPI's at the moment.

[BCEagle74]

Harvard Crimson
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Keith Wright, F 33 6-14 0-0 3-3 2 5 1 1 0 0 1 15
Kyle Casey, F 25 2-8 0-2 1-2 0 4 1 2 0 0 5 5
Oliver McNally, G 29 3-4 1-1 5-5 1 3 1 0 0 0 3 12
Brandyn Curry, G 38 4-10 0-2 2-2 0 4 8 0 0 6 3 10
Christian Webster, G 37 3-5 1-1 6-6 1 6 3 0 0 3 0 13

BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Andrew Van Nest, F 5 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 3 0 0 0 1 1 0
Laurent Rivard, G 33 7-15 3-9 6-6 1 3 0 0 0 0 1 23

TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
25-56 5-15 23-24 6 28 14 3 0 10 14 78
44.6% 33.3% 95.8%

Boston College Eagles
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Joe Trapani, F 31 9-17 1-3 2-4 1 3 5 1 3 3 4 21
Josh Southern, C 16 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 5 2 0 0 3 0 4
Biko Paris, G 35 3-8 1-3 0-0 1 2 5 1 0 2 4 7
Reggie Jackson, G 38 7-15 2-5 2-4 2 7 5 2 0 3 1 18
Danny Rubin, G 27 2-2 1-1 0-0 0 2 0 1 1 1 2 5

BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS

Corey Raji, F 28 5-9 2-5 0-0 1 6 1 0 1 1 4 12
Dallas Elmore, G 8 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 0
Gabriel Moton, G 12 1-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 2
John Cahill, G 5 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0

TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
29-57 7-18 4-8 5 26 18 7 5 14 19 69
50.9% 38.9% 50.0%

LOVE STORY 1971-2011...........+40

Oh, Oliver love means never having to say I lost to Boston College.

Schlomo post..where is it...

[Art Vandelay]

probably have to go 11-5 in the acc to make the tourney now, 21-9 could get us is, but I don't see that happening

Unless Harvard wins the Ivy League and we go 10-6 minimum, no shot whatsoever.

Harvard is not winning the Ivy League and we are not going to go 10-6. Can we please stop acting like this is a tournament team evey time we beat a mediocre opponent this year?

[ryrob]

probably have to go 11-5 in the acc to make the tourney now, 21-9 could get us is, but I don't see that happening

Unless Harvard wins the Ivy League and we go 10-6 minimum, no shot whatsoever.

Harvard is not winning the Ivy League and we are not going to go 10-6. Can we please stop acting like this is a tournament team evey time we beat a mediocre opponent this year?

I'm certainly coming around to this POV.

[TurdFerguson]

[chuckiedukes]

The defense stinks and The Don knows it. Sounds like he's having a hard time getting through to the players, too.

Quote from the Don:

"We have one really good player and a bunch of other pretty solid offensive basketball players," Donahue said. "We've got to mask it a little bit on defense. There's not a real understanding or passion for that side of the ball. We're a very good offensive team."

[pick6pedro]

Last Tournament Team lost to St.Louis and Harvard in the same season.....
This year's team....the Yale loss is going to be the brutal one. Harvard will eventually fall around the 100 mark in the RPI (give or take 20 spots either way). Yale's RPI coming into tonight was 159, and they just survived by 1 in OT at 1-12 Holy Cross, so their season doesn't look all too promising.

The bigger issue with tournament resume for this team is quality wins..........BC's RPI was 30 entering today, but with only 1 Top 50 win (Texas A&M), that is a shaky resume at best. Of course the perception of poor losses will not help things, but despite all those name wins in the non-conference, only 1 is top 50........so BC needs to grab some signature wins in ACC play

Entering Today, ACC RPI's were.......
Duke 9, Miami 22, UNC 33
All other ACC opponents have NIT or worse RPI's at the moment.

Yikes, that leaves few chances for big wins. So really they need to hope that UMD gets back on track and rises significantly to give that win some boost and then they need to win 9 more (at least) ACC games with probably minimum two coming from the Duke, UNCx2, FSU (who I think will rise), Miamix2, and UMD games. Problem is, unless one or more of those teams gets hot, the only one that will really wipe out a horrible loss is Duke. You really almost have to hope that the ACC shakes out with some teams really coming out on top, but BC also beating them. Also have to hope URI's RPI doesn't drop into a well where it has to put the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again.

[Eagledom]

This was a bad team coming into the season and donahue has led them to some good wins. There is ONE OR TWO ACC starters on the entire team and a bunch of role players. Did this loss suck? Yeah, but expectations were too high in the first place after Donahue led the tem to a few nice wins with the pile of dogshit he was dealt. No one expected an NCAA tournament bid at the start of the year and people started to think it might happen afer some good wins....this is going to be an up and down season with this squad...get used to it.

[pick6pedro]

Oliver McNally, G 29 3-4 1-1 5-5 1 3 1 0 0 0 3 12

That must be a typo. His name is Rand. Hamburgers eat him.

[BCEagles25]

What the fuck.

[BCEagle74]

I karmalized you +5 --Chalupa Boy.

Maybe the ghost of Lazy Elvis's Ronco "Etch-a-turnover" plastic play board was left under a chair.

That was my second best post ever on why GDF needed to fire Al and he did.

I predicted 6 in a row... Harvard is smoking hot!!!

I think I hear Red Chinese in my bushes..

Later guys...

WOLVERINE!

[BCEagle74]

Red Chinese ==Harvard Crimson????

Coincidence..... ME THINKS NOT!

I nuke Harvard first....those god damn asians and there 1790 SAT's... those studying bastards!!!

WOLVERINE!

[bluefishskip]

It's all about the "system".......

8-1 when hitting 10 or more 3's in a game (only loss, URI)
3-3 when hitting 9 or less

[joesim]

i was at this game and i can honestly say bc played like dogshitttt trap sucked in the first half southern is complete defense was hurrendous and we got literally 4 open shots all game

[bluefishskip]

to continue..........BC only hit 7 3's tonight

This team is certainly a postseason team (NCAA's a stretch, but NIT was not out of the question entering the season), but it needs to live and die more with the 3 to be competitive in games where BC is not scoring in transition

[BCEagles25]

We were all lining up to kiss Southern's ass a month ago. Funny what a loss to Harvard will do.

[eepstein0]

Although tonight was absolutely horrible as was losing to Yale (I'm totally fine with losing to URI on the road without Biko Paris), y'all know we're starting 3-0 in ACC play right? We're going to absolutely dismantle GT on Saturday Afternoon and beat NCST at home to be 3-0 headed down to Coral Gables next Saturday Night.

This team struggles against team with an unconvential offense. The teams defense is terrible and looks even worse against teams like Harvard, Yale and Wisconsin who spread the floor and shoot 3's. Against teams with a more normal offense (see Cal, Texas A&M, etc.), this team will do enough to win.

There are some horrible and I mean horrible teams in the ACC this year.

[BCEagles25]

y'all know we're starting 3-0 in ACC play right?

"Y'all know we're heading into conference play at 12-3, right?"

[bluefishskip]

Since the Bucknell game.....Southern's production.....2,2,4 points
Not getting many looks offensively

[eepstein0]

y'all know we're starting 3-0 in ACC play right?

"Y'all know we're heading into conference play at 12-3, right?"

Have faith, especially when we get to play Paul Hewitt and Sid Lowe at home. Those guys are both at coaching and their teams are bad.

[eepstein0]

y'all know we're starting 3-0 in ACC play right?

"Y'all know we're heading into conference play at 12-3, right?"

We're 10-4 out of conference....1-0 in the ACC. If you were trying to be funny this is a very poor attempt.

[BCEagles25]

y'all know we're starting 3-0 in ACC play right?

"Y'all know we're heading into conference play at 12-3, right?"

We're 10-4 out of conference....1-0 in the ACC. If you were trying to be funny this is a very poor attempt.

As far as jokes go, that one was alright. It's just that, I guess we all probably assumed we wouldn't lose to Harvard for the third straight year under a new coach, huh?

[mod6A]

yeah?

[BCeezy]

I was at the game tonight. No sense of urgency until that crazy scramble at the end where we started pressing and grabbed a few offensive boards. After Reggie's and 1, it was the first time players really showed any emotion at all, which was like 38 minutes into the game. Really frustrating performance. And as everyone knows, our D is attrocious

Rest of the schedule:

vs. Georgia Tech W 12-4 (2-0)
vs. NC State W 13-4 (3-0)
@ Miami L 13-5 (3-1)
vs. Virginia W 14-5 (4-1)
@ Florida State L 15-6 (4-2)
@ Duke L 15-7 (4-3)
vs. UNC L 15-8 (4-4)
vs. VT W 16-8 (5-4)
@ Clemson W 17-8 (6-4)
vs. Maryland W 18-8 (7-4)
@ UNC L 18-9 (7-5)
vs. Miami W 19-9 (8-5)
@ Virginia W 20-9 (9-5)
@ Virginia Tech L 20-10 (9-6)
vs. Wake Forest W 21-10 (10-6)

Puts us right on the bubble. There are definitely some games there that could swing one way or another (maybe we steal a UNC game, but also maybe Miami/VT sweeps us). It's going to be interesting what happens now that conference play opens up.

[thebigskinny31]

I was at the game and you could tell from the start that BC was in trouble even thou they jumped out to an early lead mostly because reggie. This team needs to live and die by the 3 and all thou they didnt jack very many up which was awkward to see Moton, Raji, and Trapani each had a WIDE OPEN 3 in the last 3 minuters that they all missed. Reggie killed us at the line he missed a big and 1 nd the front end of a 1and1. Kowalski was the only guy on the bench into the game trying to fire up the crowd every1 else seemed like they wanted to be sumwhere else. On a good note Jared Dudley has 19pts in the 1st half tonight.