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ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:09 pmby eepstein0
I wonder why we lost with this kind of brilliant preparation by the coaching staff last season. This was posted before the UVA debacle last year in the First Round of the ACCT.
11:15 a.m. Warming up - Today's practices are take-it-easy run up to the tournament that starts tomorrow. Right now Boston College is on the floor, TV production people are joking as they set up cameras and a few dozen people sit in the stands to get a glimpse of the players before the weekend games.
The tournament is back in Greensboro, and one can't help but feel like it's back home.
The Eagles players are slapping fives and cutting up as they run a lay-up drill.
Reggie Jackson took an alley-oop from Biko Paris. Some other guys shoot 3 pointers. Coaches joke with the players.
"I used to be able to dunk like that," said assistant coach Bonzie Colson.
Then head coach Al Skinner chimed in after one of his players carried the ball on a fast break. Part of the practice turned into a slam dunk session.
"Oh," Skinner said, "There's cameras in here."
Then, after a botched dunk, "If you can't dunk, lay it in."
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:13 pmby Eagledom
Al...the King of discipline and preparation.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:44 pmby twballgame9
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:39 pmby eepstein0
Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:10 pmby cvilleagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:25 pmby Eagledom
cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pmby BCEagles25
Is Al still coaching at BC?
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:25 pmby eepstein0
Eagledom {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Cadillac90 is Skinner I think.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:25 amby Cadillac90
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Cadillac90 is Skinner I think.
Nope can't say that i am Al Skinner.
For the record, this thread has to be the biggest waste of space on EO.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:11 amby eagle9903
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Cadillac90 is Skinner I think.
Nope can't say that i am Al Skinner.
For the record, this thread has to be the biggest waste of space on EO.
that's a very lofty claim*
*no value added here
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:35 pmby eagle9903
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Cadillac90 is Skinner I think.
Nope can't say that i am Al Skinner.
For the record, this thread has to be the biggest waste of space on EO.
that's a very lofty claim*
*no value added here
what does the small part of your message say? i can't read it.
EDIT - never mind, now i can.
that is all
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:07 pmby DuchesneEast
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:cvilleagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Just trying to point out an interesting article I found, that's all...
I enjoyed the tales of Skinner's expert strategy and preparation.
Speaking of Skinner....was Eagle Talon Skinner? They seem to both left at around the same time, and I figure only Skinner himself or a very close relative could have defended him that vigorously (i.e., comparing him favorable to Coach K, etc).
Cadillac90 is Skinner I think.
Nope can't say that i am Al Skinner.
For the record, this thread has to be the biggest waste of space on EO.
that's a very lofty claim*
*no value added here
what does the small part of your message say? i can't read it.
EDIT - never mind, now i can.
that is all
The Schiano:
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:16 pmby eepstein0
Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:12 pmby Cadillac90
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:21 pmby BCMcG
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:39 pmby Eagledom
BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:44 pmby apbc12
Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
And if you can't see the difference between talking a lot and having something to say, you really are beyond hope.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:46 pmby Eagledom
apbc12 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
And if you can't see the difference between talking a lot and having something to say, you really are beyond hope.
Bring Skinner back!!!!! Donahue is trying to hard to change things!!!!
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:30 pmby BCMcG
I'm pulling for Donahue. I like him a lot. However, to say that things are much, much better already because he is the coach is absurd.
1. There is no basis for making a comparison regarding actual basketball being played.
2. Regarding recruiting, he has pulled in four guys. One (Rubin) was a decommit from Colgate. Another (Moton) was a decommit from Air Force. Clifford had offers from a few mid-majors (UMass probably being the strongest). I don't think Odio had any offers. On top of that, he lost all of Skinners recruits including a guy (Noreen) who was sought after enough that he had his pick of top programs once he decommitted. Sure, he's getting out there and extending offers to top ranked guys, but he hasn't reeled any of them in yet. At the same time, he's extended offers to guys that Skinner-critics would have been seething about. For example, the latest offer extended was to Shakore Grant, whose only other offer is from Wagner and has interest from St. Francis and Towson. What's ridiculous about this is that these are the type of players that Skinner was routinely bashed for recruiting. The recurring criticism was that you can't win with diamonds in the rough. If you remember earlier in Skinner's tenure, he went after guys like Chris Paul and Torin Francis. None of them gave BC a second thought, so he focused his energy on guys that fit his system. Sounds like Donahue is doing the exact same thing. Time will tell if top-flight recruits like Murphy come to BC, but I'm not holding my breath.
3. One thing that is a clear improvement is the visibility of the coach. Donahue is getting out there and getting involved on campus and in the New England hoops community. That's a nice start.
I do think the program will improve under Donahue, but there's really no evidence yet that it's any better off.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:34 pmby Eagledom
BCMcG {l Wrote}:
I do think the program will improve under Donahue, .
Then quit your fucking whining every time someone posts something positive about him.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:02 pmby eepstein0
Between Josh Southern, Rakim Sanders, Biko Paris and basically the rest of last years team, who would you consider the energy guys Skinner brought in? I'll give you Jackson and Raji. The entire rest of the team played like a bunch of overweight bums.
I guarantee with Donahue's cardio program (which we keep hearing about) you'll get the best we've seen from Paris and Southern and hopefully a few others.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:35 pmby MattTheEagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Between Josh Southern, Rakim Sanders, Biko Paris and basically the rest of last years team, who would you consider the energy guys Skinner brought in? I'll give you Jackson and Raji. The entire rest of the team played like a bunch of overweight bums.
I guarantee with Donahue's cardio program (which we keep hearing about) you'll get the best we've seen from Paris and Southern and hopefully a few others.
I couldn't agree more.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:30 pmby twballgame9
Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
So far, Skinner got better players being lazy.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:57 amby eepstein0
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
So far, Skinner got better players being lazy.
Pretty much on the money here.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:27 amby Eagledom
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
So far, Skinner got better players being lazy.
And how many months has he been on the job? Things are changing already and BC will be better for it....the basketball program will not miss your beloved Al Skinner.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:03 amby twballgame9
Eagledom {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
So far, Skinner got better players being lazy.
And how many months has he been on the job? Things are changing already and BC will be better for it....the basketball program will not miss your beloved Al Skinner.
I think Donahue will be a much better coach on the court. Doesn't make me blind to the fact that the idea that he is doing better in recruiting is based solely on the fact that he likely to not get better players than Skinner didn't get. So far, recruiting is pretty bad.
He reminds me of Jags trying to land a QB so far. Lot's of huge names, no commits.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:17 pmby Cadillac90
Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:
I do think the program will improve under Donahue, .
Then quit your fucking whining every time someone posts something positive about him.
He wasn't whining, he was pointing out the stupidity of junior's comment. BCMcG actually backed it up with some good analysis and you just ignore it. You are still teh Gimp.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:22 pmby BCEagles25
Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:
I do think the program will improve under Donahue, .
Then quit your fucking whining every time someone posts something positive about him.
Well, fuck me. Debbie Downer is seeing the "positive side" to things.
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:27 pmby Harry Seaward
Dennis Clifford and Eddie Odio are better than any of Skinner's recruits?
Re: ACC Tournament Loss to UVA Last Year
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Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:47 pmby MattTheEagle
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BCMcG {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Bottom line, the program is in much, much better hands.
How about we play some games and recruit some players with other major conference offers before we make such declarations?
if you can't already see the difference between Donahue's recruiting vs. Skinners in terms of effort and targets, you really are Mrs. Skinner.
So far, Skinner got better players being lazy.
And how many months has he been on the job? Things are changing already and BC will be better for it....the basketball program will not miss your beloved Al Skinner.
I think Donahue will be a much better coach on the court. Doesn't make me blind to the fact that the idea that he is doing better in recruiting is based solely on the fact that he likely to not get better players than Skinner didn't get. So far, recruiting is pretty bad.
He reminds me of Jags trying to land a QB so far. Lot's of huge names, no commits.
Jags didn't like to recruit, he just gave a bunch of offers. That is very different from Donahue who is not only sending offers but showing genuine interest in recruiting. He has hosted BC's first elite camp and had plenty of great prospects from around the area attend. He an Joe Jones are all over the place watching prospects perform. The effort certainly is there. Donahue does not have a track record at BC; the best he has to go off of is coming off a Sweet Sixteen for Cornell which does interest recruits but many, particularly the ones for 2012, want to see how he does in the ACC.
