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eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

larrydoby {l Wrote}:

BCHerbert {l Wrote}:Don never offered Niang. He wasn't a fit for the offense. Maybe Graham, Woody Harrelson, and Waheed can get off their asses and land a couple of athletic bigs.

I read that a lot on this site. How can Niang not be a fit for Donahue's offense ? What's wrong with him?

I think the "non-fit" thing is stupid lazy analysis like 99% of this thread. The posters saying it are the one's who think Donahue wants face the basket bigs only (because IVY league!!) who rely on shooting as opposed to post moves to score even though neither Anderson nor Clifford (healthy) plays that way. Instead Niang was probably not a recruiting priority because the best recruit in the class that had just ended played the same position, neither is big enough to play center (although one now does) and 7 scholarships had just been allocated to said class that just ended.

He also was under the radar before ISU offered him (and then he signed almost immediately), with UMass, URI, Siena, Northeastern, George Mason, Hofstra, FAU and Delaware type offers. So it could have just been a miss.

Oh yeah, and he played for Papile at BABC.

larrydoby {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

larrydoby {l Wrote}:

BCHerbert {l Wrote}:Don never offered Niang. He wasn't a fit for the offense. Maybe Graham, Woody Harrelson, and Waheed can get off their asses and land a couple of athletic bigs.

I read that a lot on this site. How can Niang not be a fit for Donahue's offense ? What's wrong with him?

I think the "non-fit" thing is stupid lazy analysis like 99% of this thread. The posters saying it are the one's who think Donahue wants face the basket bigs only (because IVY league!!) who rely on shooting as opposed to post moves to score even though neither Anderson nor Clifford (healthy) plays that way. Instead Niang was probably not a recruiting priority because the best recruit in the class that had just ended played the same position, neither is big enough to play center (although one now does) and 7 scholarships had just been allocated to said class that just ended.

He also was under the radar before ISU offered him (and then he signed almost immediately), with UMass, URI, Siena, Northeastern, George Mason, Hofstra, FAU and Delaware type offers. So it could have just been a miss.

Oh yeah, and he played for Papile at BABC.

I agree that he was under the radar, but aren't most of the kids he recruits? Plus, this one was in his own backyard.BC has started four guards in a lot of games. If this guy's the genuis people seem to think he is, he should be able to figure how to play two 6-7 power forward types together.

Iggle {l Wrote}:Since the whole point of recruiting and playing a certain way is to get players that compliment the style on the court and fit in well, I'm not too concerned that Donahue didn't pursue someone who he would have to coach around, to a certain extent. Far more worried that he won't secure any of the players who he does want this year, which hasn't ended yet.

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Hicks is in the final 5 for Mr Kentucky Basketball

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

Shaddix {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

Look up Russell Westbrook

BCEaglesFan {l Wrote}:

Shaddix {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

Look up Russell Westbrook

And Jared Dudley

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

A chronic and potentially chronically debilitating injury to the center, which shows itself to be potentially chronically debilitating right before the november LOI day probably creates an extenuating circumstance.

None other than John Oates was a late signing day signee.

I think Dudley verballed before the first signing day, I don't think he signed until the late day.

bcmurph {l Wrote}:

I think Dudley verballed before the first signing day, I don't think he signed until the late day.

Didn't Dudley only decide to forego Prep school in August after Coleman decided to bolt for Minnesota?

Jordan Daniels was a late signee, though...

bcmurph {l Wrote}:I think he decided in August and came THAT September....

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

bcmurph {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

Wouldn't argue with any of that...

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

Iggle {l Wrote}:Never said that there wasn't time to get it done.

fair enough.

Good players usually sign by the first LOI day last November. Regular period ends in about a month. It's pretty much over and we still have Owens, who I like, and no players at the two positions of need.

They've identified decent enough targets. Question is can they land em

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

bcmurph {l Wrote}:

I think Dudley verballed before the first signing day, I don't think he signed until the late day.

Didn't Dudley only decide to forego Prep school in August after Coleman decided to bolt for Minnesota?

Jordan Daniels was a late signee, though...

Yep, but August is pre-early signing day. So he verballed when Coleman bolted and then waited to sign his LOI for a long time.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

bcmurph {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

Wouldn't argue with any of that...

for the record neither would I, if Teddy hadn't said it was pretty much over. They clearly have an immediate need that they didn't have before the first signing day. That is not the normal progression of recruiting.

31southst {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

bcmurph {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

Wouldn't argue with any of that...

for the record neither would I, if Teddy hadn't said it was pretty much over. They clearly have an immediate need that they didn't have before the first signing day. That is not the normal progression of recruiting.

My point was more I dislike people pointing to one random example (e.g., Dudley) as a way to supposedly disprove something that is largely true (BC generally signs its better recruits early). It's similar to how I get annoyed when people point to Jamie Silva or Doug Flutie as absolute proof that football recruit rankings don't matter.

Shaddix {l Wrote}:

31southst {l Wrote}:As much fun as it is to point out a few examples where TW is wrong, as a general matter, I think his point is a valid one. Of course nothing's absolute and there's still time but that doesn't mean we're in a good position.

Obviously the highest rated recruits do...but how often are they correct? I understand it but don't necessarily agree with it. The four guys left we are looking at are Severe, Hicks, Kelly, and Reynolds. Severe has legit offers, Hicks once had offers from Arizona and Indiana, Kelly plays on the #1 team in the country, and Reynolds is on postgrad year. It's not like we are plucking a recruit away from Umass or BU